Cluster Bomb/Royal Flush/Liberty Haze/White Widow Gro

Hi All, It's been quite a while since I've done a grow and thought I'd do a start to finish thread. Not sure if this should be over in the grow journal area, or the noob area, but this is where I posted my last grow.

So this is a seed/soil grow. I got my seeds at The Attitude just a few weeks ago. No problems whatsoever. The royal flush came directly from Nirvana. No problems there either. Both took about 2 weeks to get to me in Colorado.

Bomb Seeds Cluster Bomb; Dinafem White Widow; Barney's Farm Liberty Haze; Nirvana Royal Flush; and an old DNA sour cream freebie I have. All are fem but the sour cream seed.

I've done a few grows but still consider myself an amateur for sure. I've not grown tall sativa dom plants before like the royal flush and liberty haze so this might get interesting.

I'm going to take lots of pics, just have to remember how to attach them. Give me a few minutes.

Wish me luck!

confused already. i think i attached an image.

It worked! So those are the seeds dropped directly into plain old grocery store distilled water. I will leave them 24 hours, stir and hope they sink.

Hope this isn't too boring! I fill these peat pots with seedling mix, put in a clear plastic container with a clear lid and bury them deep in perlite. I like the big and chunky perlite the best but it's hard to find and comes in huge bags. Now I wait for the seeds to sink.

i recently go this on amazon of all places for a hundred bucks free shipping. it's about 5 tall x 2.5 x 2.5. a nice sized little tent of good quality, great venting options, for a great price. i'm going to veg in this and flower in my larger tent. at least that's the plan.

Do you often use those peat pots?

Here's the big tent I've done all my other grows in. It's a XL Homebox, 6x4x4 I think. It's really a piece of junk. I'd never buy another Homebox. The stitching and zippers started to come off right away and it's held together with duct tape but it works.

It looks like you are making a great start.

I always wonder if the tonicity of distilled water might be a problem.
(i.e. without minerals it might tend to be over absorbed...)
but I am just musing. I am sure that one of the more experienced
growers will comment if needed.

We do not use it to rehydrate mushroom spores for this reason, IIRC.

Good luck,

JD

yes, i've used them a lot. i've tried the peat mesh things, i've tried the "cow pots," i've tried some sort of coco fiber pot, and i've tried just dumping the seeds right into large containers. the jiffy pots work the best so far, but i wish i could find a better alternative. what i usually do when i transplant the jiffy pot is remove as much of it as i can, cut off the bottom if possible, and take an exacto blade and cut little slits in it. i'm always open to suggestions!

thanks! some people say just use tap water since it has minerals. some people insist on distilled. i don't know how much it matters. i've used RO water in the past and it worked fine.

stvitusdance said:

yes, i've used them a lot. i've tried the peat mesh things, i've tried the "cow pots," i've tried some sort of coco fiber pot, and i've tried just dumping the seeds right into large containers. the jiffy pots work the best so far, but i wish i could find a better alternative. what i usually do when i transplant the jiffy pot is remove as much of it as i can, cut off the bottom if possible, and take an exacto blade and cut little slits in it. i'm always open to suggestions!

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Just wondering, I had bad experiences with them, but if you've learned how to use them, my hat is off to you .

hhhmmm....not sure why my replies aren't going to the correct people. i'll work on it! thanks guys!

I seem to have made them work but what do you use? I'm always willing to try something else.

stvitusdance said:

I seem to have made them work but what do you use? I'm always willing to try something else.

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Just the ever popular 16-18 oz red solo cup!

So brother you just plant them in the solo cup and wait for the cup to get root bound and then directly transfer to a bigger container? When you pop the seed in the solo cup do you cover it somehow? Believe it or not I've never tried that! I've always done the porous pot in perlite thing. My first really successful grow was Dampring Kiwi Skunk and I followed their online directions; and it worked! So I've been scared to deviate since then. But thanks for your suggestion and I'll give the solo cup method a try. I've always thought the peat pot was too thick and might impede root development.

stvitusdance said:

So brother you just plant them in the solo cup and wait for the cup to get root bound and then directly transfer to a bigger container? When you pop the seed in the solo cup do you cover it somehow? Believe it or not I've never tried that! I've always done the porous pot in perlite thing. My first really successful grow was Dampring Kiwi Skunk and I followed their online directions; and it worked! So I've been scared to deviate since then. But thanks for your suggestion and I'll give the solo cup method a try. I've always thought the peat pot was too thick and might impede root development.

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If it works, stick with it! As to how I do it, I drop my seeds into water for 8-24 hours first. When I see a tap root or the seed sinks, I fill my solo cup (with 3 holes in the bottom, I use a cordless drill and bit) with my starting medium (peat, earth work castings, some perlite), water the medium at least three times, and let it set for 15 minutes or so. I then poke a hole in the medium about 1/4" deep and drop the seed in. I cover the cup with a plastic sandwich bag held on by a rubber band and stick the cup in a warm spot. I typically get a sprout in 2-4 days.

I usually transplant when the plant's leaves reach the edge of the cup, anywhere from 7-12 days. I put the young plant into its final destination, typically a 3 gallon fabric pot.

brotherjericho said:

If it works, stick with it! As to how I do it, I drop my seeds into water for 8-24 hours first. When I see a tap root or the seed sinks, I fill my solo cup (with 3 holes in the bottom, I use a cordless drill and bit) with my starting medium (peat, earth work castings, some perlite), water the medium at least three times, and let it set for 15 minutes or so. I then poke a hole in the medium about 1/4" deep and drop the seed in. I cover the cup with a plastic sandwich bag held on by a rubber band and stick the cup in a warm spot. I typically get a sprout in 2-4 days.

I usually transplant when the plant's leaves reach the edge of the cup, anywhere from 7-12 days. I put the young plant into its final destination, typically a 3 gallon fabric pot.

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Thanks brother for the info. I'm going to try it!

brotherjericho said:

If it works, stick with it! As to how I do it, I drop my seeds into water for 8-24 hours first. When I see a tap root or the seed sinks, I fill my solo cup (with 3 holes in the bottom, I use a cordless drill and bit) with my starting medium (peat, earth work castings, some perlite), water the medium at least three times, and let it set for 15 minutes or so. I then poke a hole in the medium about 1/4" deep and drop the seed in. I cover the cup with a plastic sandwich bag held on by a rubber band and stick the cup in a warm spot. I typically get a sprout in 2-4 days.

I usually transplant when the plant's leaves reach the edge of the cup, anywhere from 7-12 days. I put the young plant into its final destination, typically a 3 gallon fabric pot.

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Do you just pop the seed in the 1/4" hole and lightly cover it with soil? Do you do anything detailed like pointing the seed a certain direction like pointy side down? How about light during the seedling pop stage? Lots of lumins 24/7 or something else? Thanks for your input!

Transplanting is really easy. Its best if you've watered the medium a day before the transplant so the soil stays together. If I don't let the plant go too long, all I usually have to do is gently squeeze the sides of the cup in a few places, place my hand over the cup top with the plant between my middle and ring finger, and turn the cup over and gently shake. Most of the time the plant will come right out. Sometimes I have to squeeze the cup a few more times if it does not come out the first try. I've yet to have an instance of transplant shock.

stvitusdance said:

Do you just pop the seed in the 1/4" hole and lightly cover it with soil? Do you do anything detailed like pointing the seed a certain direction like pointy side down? How about light during the seedling pop stage? Lots of lumins 24/7 or something else? Thanks for your input!

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Yes, I cover it back over. I've never bothered with positioning the seed with the tap root down, it knows how to grow . I don't bother with lights until the seedling sprouts, and then I either stick it in a back corner of my veg room or put a 23w CFL over it about 3-4 inches away. I don't put too much light on the seedling for the first day or so, and even then I take it slow with lighting, putting the seedling farther away from my lights than I would a much more mature plant. You just have to figure out what the little seedling can handle without stretching. For me its 3-4" from the 23w CFL or 12" or so from my 150w CMH.