Coalition Oversight-Audit Application into Coalition Finances

doingdishes

doingdishes

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a Coalition agenda that Wilcox issued in 2013 and the "Coalition Agenda 2013 says nothing about jumping ship to dispensaries if action fails...the top of page 3 on the tri-fold clearly states that if the injunction fails Conroy is going to file a class action for damages...it says nothing about diverting funds to Bott which is a blatant misappropriation of funds
1. Prevent some or all of the new regulations from coming into force.

2. Maintain the status quo until reasonable access is assured for those patients having the right to access is fair, affordable and reasonable under applicable law.

3. File a class action lawsuit for damages if the MMAR Regulation Repeal becomes law in March 2014.

Tri-fold Page 2 bottom

GOALS: The MMAR Coalition against Repea; plans to use legal action to:

  • Obtain a declaration that the new MMPR is their current form are unconstitutional because they fail to provide 'reasonable access' to all qualifying patients; and
  • Prevent the repeal of only the MMAR provisions pertaininng to Personal Production Licenced (PPL) and a limited form of desigantied caregiver or grower licence (DGL).
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LEGAL STRATEGY AND TACTICS
  • When the timing is appropriate, the Coalition plans to file applications in federal court for the declaration of unconstitutionality described above, and for a stay, restraining order or injunction preventing the repeal of the PPL and DGL provisions of the MMAR.
  • I f this application is not successful and the PPL/DGL provisions of the MMAR are repealed, the Coalition plans to file a Class Action for damages suffered by those who are no longer able to grow for themselves.

Nadine Bews told Conroy, Wilcox and McCluskey that you cannot sue for damages caused by unconstitutional legislation because the non-status Indians had already tried and were told no way...but Wilcox and Conroy falsely misled the patients anyway...

This shows that they changed their direction but the patients didn't get to vote on that decision. This is so very corrupt. I trusted the fact that a lawyer was involved and a Queen's Counsil at that. We should of all been able to trust those who were supposed to have the patient's best interest at heart.
 
VIANARCHRIS

VIANARCHRIS

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I don't know what the process is, but if you have proof of wrong-doing by the lawyer, can you not file a complaint and get a mistrial? Or do we want a mistrial...we might get the ruling we want. I have not been following the allegations against the coalition very closely...this whole case has me confused as fuck. If there was anything corrupt going on, a little noise and asking some hard questions may just speed things up. Give us what we want and all the dirty stuff just get's forgotten? IDK
 
doingdishes

doingdishes

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there will be this filed this week by Nadine.
there wouldn't be a mistrial as the wrong doing was directly in the case. getting a new/better lawyer will help.
CONroy/Wilcox have done thing that were very wrong with our $$.
the fact that CONroy was in court and did that work, it was OK. if he did a better job, there would be less left outs. the only ones would be with expired permits. CONroy needed one more plaintiff who had current paperwork and needed changes to their license and thousands less patients would be "left out"
what CONroy and Wilcox did was also design the case so that the Allard trial is first and foremost. no one can get rulings if they are similar as seen in the Goldstar case. if CONroy made it a class action (which would have been cheaper) other patients like myself, could have filed appeals and have had standing to do so.
CONroy/Wilcox also formed the Coalition in a very wrong way. there was supposed to be voting and patients/members would have say. i wasn't asked anything about donating our $$ to other causes at all. if we were supposed to have a say in what happens, why weren't we consulted?
why is our $$ going for things that we didn't agree with?
it's a shitshow for sure
 
bigmanc

bigmanc

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doingdishes said:
there will be this filed this week by Nadine.
there wouldn't be a mistrial as the wrong doing was directly in the case. getting a new/better lawyer will help.
CONroy/Wilcox have done thing that were very wrong with our $$.
the fact that CONroy was in court and did that work, it was OK. if he did a better job, there would be less left outs. the only ones would be with expired permits. CONroy needed one more plaintiff who had current paperwork and needed changes to their license and thousands less patients would be "left out"
what CONroy and Wilcox did was also design the case so that the Allard trial is first and foremost. no one can get rulings if they are similar as seen in the Goldstar case. if CONroy made it a class action (which would have been cheaper) other patients like myself, could have filed appeals and have had standing to do so.
CONroy/Wilcox also formed the Coalition in a very wrong way. there was supposed to be voting and patients/members would have say. i wasn't asked anything about donating our $$ to other causes at all. if we were supposed to have a say in what happens, why weren't we consulted?
why is our $$ going for things that we didn't agree with?
it's a shitshow for sure
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Keep in mind for 2-3 weeks afterwards the injunction took place everyone was with the understanding it was the earlier september date, with the address change that should have been a no brainer how can they claim your no longer sick if you move
 
doingdishes

doingdishes

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bigmanc said:
Keep in mind for 2-3 weeks afterwards the injunction took place everyone was with the understanding it was the earlier september date, with the address change that should have been a no brainer how can they claim your no longer sick if you move
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what if the city/town changes the name of your street? in Surrey, they changed King George Hwy to King George Blvd. your permit would be invalid eventhough you didn't move.
what if your DG died or became unavailable? mine was involved in a accident. he can't do it for me but i still need it.
makes no sense until you say it's Government...then the lack of common sense makes sense
 
bigmanc

bigmanc

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doingdishes said:
what if the city/town changes the name of your street? in Surrey, they changed King George Hwy to King George Blvd. your permit would be invalid eventhough you didn't move.
what if your DG died or became unavailable? mine was involved in a accident. he can't do it for me but i still need it.
makes no sense until you say it's Government...then the lack of common sense makes sense
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I think its a free for all at the moment, these judges wont prosecute you for ggrowing with medical documentation up to date or not. The prime minister of this country used the crutch of "legalization" to gain his employment.
Yup many people have come on here for advice only to be told "welcome to the left outs" some havent even had a PPL but are valid under the injunction and cant file paper work to obtain one. I think we were up to over a dozen reasons or more why address's could need change.

EDIT ^^^ problem is the fear of growing, having cops with cars up and down your street parading outside with greenplants sticking out of garbage bags and taping off half a block for the "crime scene"
 
GroErr

GroErr

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gb123 said:
If you are sick and can prove that.. as it stands...you can grow 30 plants at a cost of $1.30 for a fine.

Get at it!!!! What's everyone waiting for?

if everyone starts now...there;s no stopping it later!!!

GET GROWIN!!!!
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Already on it, oh wait, I never stopped! Now I have at least one recent precedent to help with my defense if some redneck cop comes knocking, and that's only 6 plants in there... I need a bigger room :bigjoint:

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bigmanc said:
I think its a free for all at the moment, these judges wont prosecute you for ggrowing with medical documentation up to date or not. The prime minister of this country used the crutch of "legalization" to gain his employment.
Yup many people have come on here for advice only to be told "welcome to the left outs" some havent even had a PPL but are valid under the injunction and cant file paper work to obtain one. I think we were up to over a dozen reasons or more why address's could need change.

EDIT ^^^ problem is the fear of growing, having cops with cars up and down your street parading outside with greenplants sticking out of garbage bags and taping off half a block for the "crime scene"
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Actually most people that I talk to that have some kind of a fear growing with out their license is civil forfeiture in BC.
 
doingdishes

doingdishes

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this is what we are going after. the Allard trial will be taking it's course. if CONroy gave us his best, he would get more donations as folks like myself would have more $$. right now, we use almost all of our $$ on meds...
we are after the crap that is the "Coalition"-it's never been a coalition , but only looked like one, it is a corporation with a dictator all votes are Sham votes never ever truly representing the patients only what Jason decides goes with input from Conroy
 
realmeduser

realmeduser

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CannaReview said:
Actually most people that I talk to that have some kind of a fear growing with out their license is civil forfeiture in BC.
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In my area of bc they put a do not occupy notice on your house and turn off your electric and gas.
They then make you get your house inspected to be sure that it has been 'remediated' from mold and electrical and fire safety etc at a cost of several thousand dollars to yourself.
 
bigmanc

bigmanc

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CannaReview said:
Actually most people that I talk to that have some kind of a fear growing with out their license is civil forfeiture in BC.
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Yes thats a concern too, a very big one at that probably the biggest for myself also. Hopefully my 4years of mmar paper work and up to date permission notes from my doc suffice
 
doingdishes

doingdishes

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GroErr said:
Good eye, that first batch is due to be pulled around the 18th - 20th ;) Another batch I just pulled will be nicely cured by then, ho, ho, fucking ho :weed:

This whole audit thing seems like such a waste of time and resources considering the way the winds are blowing, everyone should just chill and puff on a fat one, just sayin'.
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holding them accountable is a waste?
they pulled the wool over our eyes and they are spending our donations as they see fit. they made it impossible for other patients to get relief. i am one of those patients that were screwed over. if you are not a left out, i can see your line of thinking because it doesn't apply to you but for those of us it does effect, it is not a waste of time
this will have no effect on the Allard case. it's about their conduct and the so called Coalition.
if CONroy walks away if Allard looses, that would be a good thing. that way someone who actually gives a damn can step in
 
GroErr

GroErr

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doingdishes said:
holding them accountable is a waste?
they pulled the wool over our eyes and they are spending our donations as they see fit. they made it impossible for other patients to get relief. i am one of those patients that were screwed over. if you are not a left out, i can see your line of thinking because it doesn't apply to you but for those of us it does effect, it is not a waste of time
this will have no effect on the Allard case. it's about their conduct and the so called Coalition.
if CONroy walks away if Allard looses, that would be a good thing. that way someone who actually gives a damn can step in
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Holding them accountable is retribution for something that has already happened and has no bearing or helps the cause, and that's IF after spending all that energy and more money on new lawyers, the findings go your way. Seems to me the only win here is for new/different lawyers. To me that money and effort would be better spent making sure we get a fair deal with legalization. But that's just me, I tend to look forward vs. harping on my past mistakes and playing the victim.
 
TheRealDman

TheRealDman

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doingdishes said:
holding them accountable is a waste?
they pulled the wool over our eyes and they are spending our donations as they see fit. they made it impossible for other patients to get relief. i am one of those patients that were screwed over. if you are not a left out, i can see your line of thinking because it doesn't apply to you but for those of us it does effect, it is not a waste of time
this will have no effect on the Allard case. it's about their conduct and the so called Coalition.
if CONroy walks away if Allard looses, that would be a good thing. that way someone who actually gives a damn can step in
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Cue...Kirk Tousaw!
 
realmeduser

realmeduser

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TheRealDman said:
Cue...Kirk Tousaw!
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But after this financial issue, I wonder how one would pry the money out of jaded mmar patients pockets to finance a new legal team. I am sure that nobody feels that we have been so hard done by that they would offer free lawyering for us.
 
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