Concealed carry hand gun for a woman

whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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doublejj said:
Modern revolvers will not fire if dropped on the hammer, they have safeties to prevent it. And because most are double action they have long stiff trigger pulls, so the trigger would have to be pulled all the way thru the cycle & not likely to happen in a purse. Revolvers are instantly usable as soon as you have it in your hand, no safety to find, just pull & shoot. On the other hand to be effective an auto must be carried cocked & locked, with only a slimsy safety button to prevent firing. Or if you carry it chamber empty, you have to go thru steps of charging the weapon before you can fire.
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The kel-tec and lcp actions are the same as a revolver. My kel-tec doesn't even have a safety. It has a ridiculous long trigger pull.
 
whitebb2727

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What I'm saying is the double action revolver vs auto is a moot argument with newer compact autos. Most operate just like a revolver. The new compacts are safe and meant to be carried chambered.
 
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ZaraBeth420 said:
I'm looking to get a hand gun for concealed carry in my purse. And for inside my house should I ever need it there. And in my vehicle. What do I need? Someone recommended a Ruger LCR. Good choice?

I've shot hand guns growing up. Up to 38. My dad was a gun lover.
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I'm probably beating a dead horse here but revolvers are much more reliable than semi autos and are easier to operate. Some people have a hard time manipulating the slide to chamber a round as well as the slide stop/release. IMHO .380 and .22 are not ideal carry rounds. Sure, anything is better than nothing, but why carry something that is better than nothing, when you can carry something better.

Revolvers in .38spl are almost always 5rd. Especially in snub nose which is what you'd be after. Statistically a "gun fight" is 3 rds shot including both parties. If a revolver has a misfire you just pull the trigger and it advances to the next round. In an auto, you need to manually eject that round in order to get back into the fight.
A revovler can be shot through a pocket or purse and keep going. An auto you can probably get one shot off then it will jam if you try to shoot it this way. Also, lets say your assailant is so close you have to jam the barrel of the gun in their ribs etc... a revolver will go bang. Nearly all autos wont. There is a thing called a disconnector that if the slide is pushed out of battery slightly it wont fire. Almost all .38spl will handle and fire .38spl +P. This is a hotter round than the normal .38spl and you could consider it a mild .357. Another key point too is that you could get a .357 magnum snub nose and it will shoot all 3 rounds. ALL .357 mag revolvers will shoot .38's.

I could go on, but revolvers are a no brainer for reliability and ease of use. The ONLY downside if you consider it to be is that 99% of revolvers have no manual safety. That being said, like all firearms, keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot and the gun will NOT go bang on it's own. Also, the trigger pull of a revolver in double action mode will have a trigger pull of around 10# this means you could carry it unholstered in your purse or whatever and it will never even come close to firing unless you pull the trigger.

The two revolvers I suggest the most would be any Smith and Wesson J-frame. Ideally the airweight line. Or better yet the Smith and Wesson Bodyguard revolver. They come with a laser on them. Very handy. The other is a Ruger LCR. I like Smith and Wesson more. Both are high quality and have great warranties and customer service.

Like anything though, whatever you purchase, practice, practice, practice!!! You cannot practice enough.
 
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Alienwidow said:
I carry mine without one in the chamber. And the only time ive ever had to pull it on someone, the pull and chambering a round went all in one fluid motion. Seeing what i had just done he didnt even turn and run. He just ran backwards right into a parked chevy to get away from me. How the tables turn when the slide snaps back :lol:
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I was sitting in the drive through real early recently in a not so nice part of town. A dude approeached me from behind on my drivers side. I had my 10mm sitting on the seat next to me. I waited till he got close and racked the slide with the gun sitting at an angle on my chest pointing towards the window. When he heard that sound he perked up lol. He came to the window looked in and said "You're not who I am looking for" I said, "Your fuckin right you better keep moving". Good times!! Those are the times it is great to have a firearm, and HAVE IT ON YOU.
 
vostok

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I prefer something heavier ..this R-22 is 73mm calibre

1 shot so you don't get a second chance, and you don't have to carry it around afterwards

unloaded it also heavy enough to bash any survivors, or those who may dispute your intentions

good for up to 300m( 1200ft) and ideal for taken out the entire team who may oppose you

it weighs about the same as a plant in a 3 usgallon pot, its all plastic, and easily cocked

by just lifting the site, often just raising this, 9mm boys run for the hills

best stored under the back seat, wrapped in a cloth, best used within 2 years

or trade in for the newer model the R-32 but thats over 100mm caliber

...and expensive

my back up is my old 'jew' desert eagle(AE) not from the US

good luck
 
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whitebb2727 said:
The kel-tec and lcp actions are the same as a revolver. My kel-tec doesn't even have a safety. It has a ridiculous long trigger pull.
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Sorry, but you are incorrect.

Which for those that don't know. The LCP is basically a copy of the Kel-Tec P3AT. Kel-Tec makes cheap yet innovative good guns. The PMR-30 is ugly like the FNH five-seven, but 30rds of .22mag is pretty impressive. Especially at that cost. I should have bought one when they first came out.
 
farmasensist

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Alienwidow said:
I carry mine without one in the chamber. And the only time ive ever had to pull it on someone, the pull and chambering a round went all in one fluid motion. Seeing what i had just done he didnt even turn and run. He just ran backwards right into a parked chevy to get away from me. How the tables turn when the slide snaps back :lol:
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I don't ever have one chambered either. The way i look at it is you have a zero percent chance of shooting yourself accidently versus a small chance of shooting your self with one chambered. And if I don't have 0.5 seconds to pull the slide back I'm probably already fucked, that half second shouldn't make a difference.
 
Dr.Pecker

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farmasensist said:
I don't ever have one chambered either. The way i look at it is you have a zero percent chance of shooting yourself accidently versus a small chance of shooting your self with one chambered. And if I don't have 0.5 seconds to pull the slide back I'm probably already fucked, that half second shouldn't make a difference.
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You've never heard of the golden second? A lot can happen in that amount of time.
 
doublejj

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In Vietnam I carried this beauty with a full magazine & none in the chamber. in combat the .45 was most useful for fighting your way to your rifle....
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P.S. I plucked this off of a dead VC in 1969 & it was in better condition than the one I was issued, so I kept it. It's been my best buddy ever since
 
Dr.Pecker

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researching said:
Sorry, but you are incorrect.

Which for those that don't know. The LCP is basically a copy of the Kel-Tec P3AT. Kel-Tec makes cheap yet innovative good guns. The PMR-30 is ugly like the FNH five-seven, but 30rds of .22mag is pretty impressive. Especially at that cost. I should have bought one when they first came out.
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I forgot about that one. It gives me a boner.
 
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