Connoisseur for veg too? or just bloom?

So I was planning on switching to a more organic nutrient line (Botanicare PureBlend Pro, 1part for grow, 1part for bloom), but then recently I managed to get my local shop to swap out my old spoiled Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur for brand new ones!

So now im considering using the Connoisseur instead, but I noticed the bottles say its a 'Premium 2part Bloom Fertilizer'.. So does this mean its not really meant for veg? And would you guys recommend using it during both veg and bloom stages? Do you think its a good choice for that, or should I use something else instead? Here are my options:

1).. Use the Connoisseur for both stages.

2).. Use something else for veg, but keep the Connoisseur for bloom only.

3).. Spend money on something completely different for both stages of grow.

Keep in mind im stuck with the connoisseur regardless because I got it replaced for free, so I can't return it. But don't let that influence your suggestions..

Is Connoisseur good when used for veg too? Or should I look at something else?

What do you all think I should do?

hey bud, connoisseur is a bloom nute and entirely too high in potassium and too low in nitrogen to be an effective veg fertilizer. i would get a 2 part grow fertilizer and run that. try advanced nutrients sensi grow a&b. you can pick up a liter of both for about $20-$25 total. it's super concentrated just like connoisseur so you only need to run about half the recommended dosages. you should be using a ppm meter to test your nutrient solution before feeding it to your plants. good luck.

just realized you were the gut from the other thread. what's up man? now that i know you are running 2,000w you may need a 2 liters of both sensi a & b. are you growing in soil or hydro? i'd also recommend some other things; especially with connoisseur or if you are in soil; but i don't wanna step on your toes if you've got your own formula.

Thats exactly what I thought! But on the AN website, the nutrient calculator actually comes up with a full veg/bloom regimen for the Connoisseur.. Does that mean it would be good to veg with using their nutrient calculator?

Also, im willing to take other suggestions as well, not just the AN line.. Although I have been wondering about the AN Sensi.. Would you recommend it over the AN 3part, the GH FloraDuo, and PureBlendPro? Im trying to decide between all of these..

Anybody's thoughts?

Ender87i said:

Thats exactly what I thought! But on the AN website, the nutrient calculator actually comes up with a full veg/bloom regimen for the Connoisseur.. Does that mean it would be good to veg with using their nutrient calculator?

Also, im willing to take other suggestions as well, not just the AN line.. Although I have been wondering about the AN Sensi.. Would you recommend it over the AN 3part, the GH FloraDuo, and PureBlendPro? Im trying to decide between all of these..

Anybody's thoughts?

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yea, that's a little error i think. or maybe you just misunderstood. the sensi grow is their 2 part veg formula and then they have the sensi bloom or the connoisseur for flower. if you use sensi grow then you can use their nutrient calculator to help you figure out how to get to your desired ppm's. in my opinion you should always grow based on ppm's and not dosages. basically if you use half the dosages that advanced recommends you will end up with the ppm level that you are looking for more or less. most nutrient companies have this flaw with their plans. if you used the dosage chart exactly as advanced has it on the site then your plants will be dead inside of 2 weeks from nute toxicity. you'll be feeding them like 1200ppm solution 2 weeks into veg and they will just fry.

for veg all you really need is the 2 part sensi grow. maybe some voodoo juice if you want to try it out. i think you would see positive results from it. could test it out later on down the line.

for flower...there are some additives i would recommend but that's a really LONG conversation. just running connoisseur wil be fine. i mean there literally are a ton of really good additives out there and things to maintain a healthy reservoir. kinda a lot to go over on a post.

the thing is you have the connoisseur right now so you should just use the sensi grow. the an 3 part is really a full lineup used from veg to grow in different amounts. be kinda worthless to use it for veg and then connoisseur for flower. i'd use up that connoisseur if i were you. it's free and it's a quality nutrient. then maybe look into house and garden.

So basically youre suggesting I use the Sensi 2part for Veg, and the Connoisseur for bloom? And if so, what do you think about the fact that AN has a full veg/bloom regimen listed for Connoisseur on their websites nute calc, implying its useable for veg? Do you really think its worth buying the Sensi for veg instead, instead of using the Connoisseur for veg as well as bloom like their website suggests? Do you think it would have any kind of benefit? I mean, it seems like the Connoisseur can be used for veg, or why would they have a veg regimen listed for it? So theoretically shouldn't it be just as good if not better during veg than the Sensi? If so, why spend the money?

Ender87i said:

So basically youre suggesting I use the Sensi 2part for Veg, and the Connoisseur for bloom? And if so, what do you think about the fact that AN has a full veg/bloom regimen listed for Connoisseur on their websites nute calc, implying its useable for veg? Do you really think its worth buying the Sensi for veg instead, instead of using the Connoisseur for veg as well as bloom like their website suggests? Do you think it would have any kind of benefit? I mean, it seems like the Connoisseur can be used for veg, or why would they have a veg regimen listed for it? So theoretically shouldn't it be just as good if not better during veg than the Sensi? If so, why spend the money?

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there is no way that advanced is suggesting that you use connoisseur for veg. i've been using them a long time. apart from the totally wrong NPK ratio in connoisseur for veg i know for a fact that their veg formula is the sensi grow for connoisseur and sensi bloom. i've actually got a chart from their company as well. if you don't understand the difference between the NPK ratios for veg and flower then you might wanna do a little research on the subject. flowering plants require TOTALLY different nutrients and amounts then vegging plants. the AN website is giving you the feeding chart for flower only when you click on connoisseur from the drop down box. that is why it is set to 8 weeks. those are the 8 weeks of flower. why do you think it ends with a flush? if you look closely it also recommends a ppm of 1000 in week 1. no one feeds week 1 vegging plants 1000ppm. they would die in a matter of hours. seriously. click on sensi grow from the drop down box and you will see that it is a 4 week plan i believe. i think they assume that people will understand the difference.

check you profile page. i left you a message. you are headed down a really bad path bro.

I must have misinterpreted their chart then. I've been reading other charts too so maybe I got them mixed up. Ill check again in a minute. But anyway I've been growing for years and I understand the biology behind our favorite plant, and why it needs different ratios of nutes during the 2 growth periods. I simply was confused because I could've sworn the AN site showed a regimen portion for veg. But again I could be wrong. If thats the case then my mistake. But I know the Connoisseur is a bloom nute and was confused by what I thought I saw on the AN nute calc, which is exactly why I brought it up on the forum.

I'v used the Connoisseur for veg and flowering. It has the same npk and general % as some other 2 part veg nute's, Humboldt master a&b being one. I use N sup for veg and PK sups for flower along with calmag every other feeding for both. Ive never had a problem with nutrients.

you can use conn in veg if you like. alot of people only run ionic bloom, gh bloom or some other bloom nute. some do it for the belief that less nitro = less leafy. others just cause its easier. i personally am in love with sensi grow. it seems to build a nice medium dense plant. not to many leaves not too stretchy. strain plays a big role in this but nutes have an effect too.

evilelect said:

I'v used the Connoisseur for veg and flowering. It has the same npk and general % as some other 2 part veg nute's, Humboldt master a&b being one. I use N sup for veg and PK sups for flower along with calmag every other feeding for both. Ive never had a problem with nutrients.

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I'm sure the OP appreciates your reply even though it's 18 months too late.

homebrewer said:

I'm sure the OP appreciates your reply even though it's 18 months too late.

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Exactly why people should be banned for trolling who cares how old it is it's good info for people period biyatch exactly why I don't use this site to many trolls like you make people not want to post useful info cause I had those nutrients was about to order others after seeing the first few post read his and it helped. May be late for him just just right for me look how long after you're post hoe so stfu and shove it.

Ch1ll1n91 said:

Exactly why people should be banned for trolling who cares how old it is it's good info for people period biyatch exactly why I don't use this site to many trolls like you make people not want to post useful info cause I had those nutrients was about to order others after seeing the first few post read his and it helped. May be late for him just just right for me look how long after you're post hoe so stfu and shove it.

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The irony and lack of punctuation in your post gave me a huge laugh, thanks brother

hey, just dropping my 2cents, i use only advanced Nutes, and when i did use Connoisseur A|B, i used it in bloom. I used Sensi A|B for veg along w/ Voodoo Juice and B-52.

I dont use veg nutes anymore. Plain water and good soil (ffof) are good enough for vegging a month. I guess I'd buy a grow nutrient for a longer veg. period. But since I don't veg more than a month, my last grow I just started using bloom nutrients at 1/4 strength.