Countryfarmer's outdoor grow

Man sorry to see that happen. I've been hearing fem seeds are not good

1. Can still be a male
2. can be hermaphrodite
3. There's no real guarantee

Good luck and I hope it works out for you. That why I only use clones now. I hate it when you put in time to get slapped in the face.






https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/357800-blue-dream-grand-daddy-purple.html

oh yeah I forgot don't use Miracle grow soil it will kill your roots

REALSTYLES said:

oh yeah I forgot don't use Miracle grow soil it will kill your roots

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Appreciate you stopping in, but this is untrue. All my plants have gotten this year as far as chemical fertilizers go is first MG 20-20-20 tomato fert and now 15-30-15 blooming fert. No roots have been killed and I now have one Big Bud female at 6.5' and at least that big in circumference, and two mexican ladies, both around 6' in height with around 4' of circumference. All three are healthy, happy weeds and all were grown with MG products (both soil and fert).

MG works just fine. Is it the best? Probably not, but it works and its cheap.

This is great to hear, and I have had wonderful first time success with MG soil, MG plant growth watering , and now bloom stuff by MG.

Well guys, I can tell you from experience a thing or two about mg. I used it on my first grow and had no problems with it either. I flushed every couple weeks through the grow to kerep the salts from building up too much. I ended up with some beautiful buds that were flushed for 2 weeks before harvest, and the fan leaves were yellowing just like they're supposed to. I smoked the weed with pride, because I grew it, and it looked soooo good. I had 3 different strains, and all 3 tasted very much alike, and didn't burn very well, especially when I tried to smoke a joint. The first half of the joint would burn ok, but the second half, you couldn't keep lit, and it would be a black hunk of char. The bottom of the bowls I smoked always got real nasty at the bottom. I didn't think much about it, until te next year, when I listened to some experienced growers and I through that MG junk in the garbage and got some descent nutes. It's the difference between night and day. Do what you want, and smoke out, I hope you enjoy it!

Thanks Wheezer for the input. I have already smoked a juvenile set of buds (because the damn deer broke the branch off) and even though they were quick dried and because of that a bit harsh, the buzz was very nice. Just guessing here based off of what you said about your previous grow with MG, it sounds as if it was not a fert problem but a drying/curing issue.

No, it wasn't a drying or curing issue. It was a an issue caused by the nutes. I'm just trying to help you out for future reference, when you try it , you'll believe me. MG is for flowers, and it works great, but once you find the difference in mj grown with good nutes, you'll never go back....trust me. Just trying to help.

That's why I'm trying to tell you, it was a nute problem, I'm just trying to help, the sooner you get away from that stuff the better off your goone be.....trust me.

Appreciate the input and if it turns out as you say then I will be the first to come back here and tell everyone not to use MG fertilizers and the reasons why. Unlike many growers seem to do, I am not married to any style of growing, any fertilizer, any particular seed bank or anything else having to do with growing. My only goal is as much quality pot as I can harvest. If tomorrow someone proved to me that growing pot in beach sand was the absolute best way to go and I could replicate their results, I would be growing in beach sand.

So thanks again for your input. As I said, with only my taste of some really juvenile buds as a test, the concerns you brought up do not seem to be an issue. We will see if that holds true at harvest time. Take care.

What a great looking crop!! Well, you went from a bunch of plants down to just a few but you did great, all things considered, and now you're about to rewarded with hopefully 2-3 lbs of good smoke. You (they) made it through this scorching summer heat and finally getting a little break. Maybe you can get a deer while you're at it, LOL.

I used MG as part of my nutes, sometimes Peters Professional, and other amendments, and I wondered why my pipe, on one particular strain, would never stay lit and last time I smoked a bowl the bottom half just charred over and I took it out. Thanks Wheezer; I'm going to take your advice and see if it helps; I'm sure it will.

New pictures.

This is the shot of my Big Bud girl.


Here are shots of my two Mexican ladies.


And some bud porn from my Big Bud girl.


And from my two Mexican girls.


White stuff on the leaves of the plants is BT dust. My site seems to be surrounded by moth and caterpillar central, but so far liberal and frequent application of BT dust has kept my plants free of any infestation.

I'm pretty happy with how the plants are growing and how they look. I am guessing I have about five weeks of flowering left to go. Average first frost here is late October, so time should not become an issue.

I figure with drying and curing time added in, they should be smoke ready by mid to late November.

i like a hot and a spicy salsa...hehehehe.. they looking good.

Looking great!

do you like the BT powder more than a liquid product? never used the powder, looks like it would work well though...

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do you like the BT powder more than a liquid product? never used the powder, looks like it would work well though...

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The powder definitely stays on the plant better. Once you dust the plant and the morning dew hits the dust it is almost glued to the plant's leaves. I am watering with an outside water source, but if you are using tap water the chlorine in the water will kill the bacteria so you should let the water sit out long enough for the chlorine to evaporate first.

I probably overdid my BT application, but when I say that I am in caterpillar central I am not exaggerating. Caterpillars, moths and butterflies are all around my grow site, but I have not had an issue at all with bud worms. The BT really appears to be an effective preventative measure.

Went to the site today to do a feeding and perform some maintenance. God damned deer broke off another branch. He didn't eat it because of the Liquid Fence, so I gathered it up and will use it to make an alcohol tincture.

I meant to take some pictures, but the camera's battery was ran down. The three ladies are looking really nice. All of the buds are really beginning to fatten up and put out lots of hairs.

A week ago I said I thought I had about five weeks left, but I'm thinking I was off about a week. I'm thinking I have about five more weeks to go and should be harvesting towards the end of October.

Hang in there bro, were coming down the home stretch, those plants are looking beautiful

peace
doublejj

I tried the powder it works, but it turns the leaves white which makes the plant easily identified. The spray is better for stealth.

Being that you're smoking this stuff, what is the carrier (powder) in that BT powder? Betcha it's talc. You don't want that stuff in your buds. Here's a ditty on BT. Page 5 is an important read - http://www.puyallup.wsu.edu/~Linda%20Chalker-Scott/Horticultural%20Myths_files/Myths/magazine%20pdfs/BtBiopesticides.pdf

Pyrethrin, a broad spectrum pesticide, gives excellent residual control for caterpillars and larvae, is super low toxic, and cheap. You can buy it as Spectracide or if you're commercial like me buy Tenguard by the 1.5 gallon. Make sure your spray contains a surfactant (spreader-sticker) or it will be ineffective. The surfactant may be included in the product. If so the label will have some wording like "rain fast in 2 hours" or you can buy a non-ionic surfactant like Red River, or you can take it in the hiney and buy some super high priced ionic surfactant from a cannabis vendor.

Sorry about the deer problem! I've had grasshoppers strip one main cola, so don't feel too bad. Only recourse is accepting the loss or protection using t-posts and wire to cordon off the area.

Am losing leaves like a mofo mainly from neglect and a lack of N. Am slowly getting a handle on it with high N foods (ammonium sulfate, 35-5-10, 5-1-1). I'm thinking the microbial activity of my wimpy, raw potting soil I threw together is robbing my plant of required N to keep it green. IOW, NPK ratios must be geared towards your soil structure/profile.

Happy harvest,
UB

Uncle Ben said:

Being that you're smoking this stuff, what is the carrier (powder) in that BT powder? Betcha it's talc. You don't want that stuff in your buds. Here's a ditty on BT. Page 5 is an important read - http://www.puyallup.wsu.edu/~Linda%20Chalker-Scott/Horticultural%20Myths_files/Myths/magazine%20pdfs/BtBiopesticides.pdf

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Hey UB! I'm still in the grow and looking at the finish line. Looks like I will harvest something this year.

As to the inert ingredients in the organic BT formulation I used, you had me concerned. I read the link you gave as well as some other information on the US Department of Agriculture's website. Both of those sites say pretty much the same thing, and actually is stated best in the link you gave me:

"Like the active bacterial ingredient, the inert ingredients in Bt formulations have also been studied and modified for safety. Newer formulations employ preservatives, like sorbitol, that are safer than the xylene used decades ago. Likewise, granular and microcapsule formulations reduce the inhalation hazard. Volatile agents associated with some Bt formulations do not appear to constitute a significant health hazard. In the 50 years that Bt has been used for insect control, there have been few reports of human pathogenicity, ..."

Since talc is a known carcinogen when inhaled, I can't see it being used. Either the link you gave would have indicated this, or the Dept. of Ag would on their website. Both your link and the Dept of Ag state that there is not a risk to humans from inhalation. Maybe you read it wrong? Or maybe I did, lol. I am pretty stoned right now after all. If so let me know.

Pyrethrin, a broad spectrum pesticide, gives excellent residual control for caterpillars and larvae, is super low toxic, and cheap. You can buy it as Spectracide or if you're commercial like me buy Tenguard by the 1.5 gallon. Make sure your spray contains a surfactant (spreader-sticker) or it will be ineffective. The surfactant may be included in the product. If so the label will have some wording like "rain fast in 2 hours" or you can buy a non-ionic surfactant like Red River, or you can take it in the hiney and buy some super high priced ionic surfactant from a cannabis vendor.

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I have used Spectracide this year and just this last week hit them with some Seven. For a blooming plant, the literature states I am good for up to 3 days before harvest, but I think I am not going to use any insecticide the last couple of weeks. I am going to have to use Bt right up until harvest or until the moths and butterflies move somewhere else.

Sorry about the deer problem! I've had grasshoppers strip one main cola, so don't feel too bad. Only recourse is accepting the loss or protection using t-posts and wire to cordon off the area.

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Yeh, I put up wire for a bit, but it just made the site too easily identifiable as a grow to me, so I took the fence back down. Since the deer only tries to eat a little bit every couple of weeks or so, I'll just have to accept the fact that before I am out of there he will probably munch on another ounce or so. And I'll keep Liquid Fence on them in order to make sure he doesn't get a real taste for them, lol. That and the garlic seems to be helping to keep him away, but every once in a while he just decides the hell with it and eats a branch. I haven't tried the fishing string bit yet, but I have some extra stakes and could do that. Might put that up when I go back out there next week.

Am losing leaves like a mofo mainly from neglect and a lack of N. Am slowly getting a handle on it with high N foods (ammonium sulfate, 35-5-10, 5-1-1). I'm thinking the microbial activity of my wimpy, raw potting soil I threw together is robbing my plant of required N to keep it green. IOW, NPK ratios must be geared towards your soil structure/profile.

Happy harvest,
UB

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Yeh, one of my plants, the Big Bud, is starting to lose a few leaves to nitrogen deficiency. I have increased her nitrogen input to help stave off anymore yellowing leaves. As we both know, healthy leaves breed nice fat buds.

The two mexican girls are definitely the same strain, but are showing different phenotypes. The larger of the two is probably the absolute healthiest plant out of the three. It is showing good separation of cola branches, hasn't needed anything other than a support stake for when it was younger and is growing some really healthy looking, hairy, fat buds. The smaller of the two has had issues with borers and recently had a broken branch that had to be staked and tied up. Its buds are also smaller as are its leaf system, both in width and length.

But thankfully, after all of the issues I have had this grow (many of those issues which were self-inflicted), it looks as if I am going to finish out the outdoor growing season with three healthy ladies.

Then its on to the drying/curing/manicuring process ... more fun ahead, lol.