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amgprb

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Make F2's, you can find her again. Open pollination will increase your chances.

Also, TK stands for? You got Guerilla Glue in your stable KGP?
Thanks for the advise!

What would increase my chances of finding her? Using pollen from a sibling, or using pollen from the dad? (I have the fathers pollen storred in the freezer)
 

OGEvilgenius

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Thanks for the advise!

What would increase my chances of finding her? Using pollen from a sibling, or using pollen from the dad? (I have the fathers pollen storred in the freezer)
Using all the plants in the pack to make the seeds (actually around 30-40 should be enough). Letting them just do their thing. You will increase the chances statistically you will find the plant you're looking for. If you choose just one, it might be missing a key gene.

You will then have to hunt through the progeny from there. Use 40 of your F1 for this process. If you are limited in space, just do as many as you can. The more the better.
 

amgprb

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Using all the plants in the pack to make the seeds (actually around 30-40 should be enough). Letting them just do their thing. You will increase the chances statistically you will find the plant you're looking for. If you choose just one, it might be missing a key gene.

You will then have to hunt through the progeny from there. Use 40 of your F1 for this process. If you are limited in space, just do as many as you can. The more the better.
Thanks OGE, much appreciated! I do have the room, although not at the moment. Might be able to get this project rolling in a few months. Sounds like it is going to be quite a bit of work, but hey, who doesnt like a good challenge!

Now, i judt have to figure out what the hell i am gonna do with the remaining 300+ f1 seeds that I will have left over! ;)
 

amgprb

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kgp, I apologize if i derailed your op a bit. It was not my intention.

OGEvilgenious, just another quick question: now lets say I find the girl Iam looking for, how many more generations do you think it will take to stabalize her so that the majority of the beans will be very similar to her and also maintain the fast flowering time?

Thanx
 

OGEvilgenius

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Really I derailed it. The latter question - it may or may not be reasonable to get it to that point. The thing about polyhybrids is a lot of times genes are mixed and matched - non homozygous. This can make it exceedingly difficult to stabilize if not impossible. Your best bet might be to backcross it into something more stable and related, like C99 to get the output you're looking for - or something similar anyway. It will take quite a few generations though to answer your question, if it's even possible.

Going this route, I'd look for two plants that appear to have parts of what you're looking for. Ideally half of what you're looking for. Then cross it to another plant that has the other half, it will be your best bet. But again, it would be difficult to pick these plants out in such a cross.

There's a reason people harp on subcool about the stability of his gear. Now you know why.
 

Amos Otis

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Of course, now and then there's someone like me that's ran a couple dozen TGA beans of assorted varieties and had no complaints whatsoever and mucho good smoke. I always have something TGA working.
 

TonightYou

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It's all good on the side topic.

I've never grew tga but I know people who have.

They've been happy pheno hunting and getting variety.

Completely unstable doesn't guarantee a shitty plant. You might find something you really like. But you might not...
Exceptions to every rule, but just usually underwhelmed by anything I've had. I will give props to smells and tastes, but that's not the reason I love cannabis, it's just a trait I consider a bonus.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Of course, now and then there's someone like me that's ran a couple dozen TGA beans of assorted varieties and had no complaints whatsoever and mucho good smoke. I always have something TGA working.
I didn't say you couldn't find good plants. Even somewhat consistently. But you won't find the same plants very often.
 

TonightYou

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I didn't say you couldn't find good plants. Even somewhat consistently. But you won't find the same plants very often.
See I'd easily try Amos's Ripped Bubba. I've never tried that strain, and the dude can grow :weed:

I've tried at most 6 or 7 strains and overall wasn't impressed minus flavor and taste. I'll say it again, TGA has unique smells and tastes. If that was a priority for someone, I'd steer them in that directiob. Hell, I'd take a proven clone. I just can't see playing the genetic lottery with so many post complaints and in person complaints "I have to pick off nanners in week whatever". I simply haven't been knocked down in effect from TGA. Wasn't terrible or anything I just know better is all.

My experience is limited, and I haven't grown it so take it as you will. Just giving my experience.

Ace of Spades I'd try, interested in the Apollo strains.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Ace of Spades he was going to cull because it's not very potent . It's not one I'd be jumping on personally. Vortex has potential, I've seen winning plants from it. Chernobyl as well as JTR. I wouldn't really bother with anything else. Maybe his A13 bx but there are open pollination lines out there to be found and I'd rather that by far.
 

Amos Otis

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As far as potency, Timewreck, Ripped Bubba, and Chernobyl easily do the job. I've also consistently gotten lime phenos from Chernobyl - one not as outrageous as the other 3. I caught a lot of grief for moving on from Timewreck. Lots of Ace coming down in a couple of weeks, then hope to find a place in line for Jack Skellington, which I've read good reports about. A big plus for me as well, is that they always finish 8-9 weeks.
 

Pass it Around

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As far as potency, Timewreck, Ripped Bubba, and Chernobyl easily do the job. I've also consistently gotten lime phenos from Chernobyl - one not as outrageous as the other 3. I caught a lot of grief for moving on from Timewreck. Lots of Ace coming down in a couple of weeks, then hope to find a place in line for Jack Skellington, which I've read good reports about. A big plus for me as well, is that they always finish 8-9 weeks.
The Jack Skellington are really nice, the yield for me was on par with chernobyl. I really liked it though it appeared to have snow all over it. So damn frosty :D.
 

amgprb

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Really I derailed it. The latter question - it may or may not be reasonable to get it to that point. The thing about polyhybrids is a lot of times genes are mixed and matched - non homozygous. This can make it exceedingly difficult to stabilize if not impossible. Your best bet might be to backcross it into something more stable and related, like C99 to get the output you're looking for - or something similar anyway. It will take quite a few generations though to answer your question, if it's even possible.

Going this route, I'd look for two plants that appear to have parts of what you're looking for. Ideally half of what you're looking for. Then cross it to another plant that has the other half, it will be your best bet. But again, it would be difficult to pick these plants out in such a cross.

There's a reason people harp on subcool about the stability of his gear. Now you know why.
Thank you for taking the time to explain this in a very understandable way. It is much appreciated!

Well, it sounds like I have a hell of a project lined up. Really very stupid on my part for letting her go BEFORE running any of her seeds. I assumed that they would be fairly similar to the mother, and in almost every aspect (besides flower time) they were.

I just busted out the 90 watt ufo out of storage and im thinking i will throw 25-30 seeds in some water later and start building a small cab to start this adventure!


Edit: here is the pic of the mom
 
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