Cutting and planting clones entirely outdoors

kkday

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u can clone with just water if need be... did you keep th soil wet????

hmmm but i dont see y you would wanna not use things to help it root tho....

yeah i used clear plastic with peat moss and twist ties on the ends. i didnt use any rooting horomones because i didnt know what i was doing. my grandma used to airlay "pu'kene'kene" which is a native Hawaiian flower that growes on a tree. i was like 13 at the time. i was just copying and hoping it wuld work (even when i kinda thought already it wuldent)
 

Jester88

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yeah it may work after all theyre in water and like i said i do know you can clone in just water if need be..... i dunno do you reckon some rooting hormones in the mix may help..... i dont see how it could hurt....


but like i said never done it before so if im wrong coud someone please4 ccorrect me????
 

bigbud305

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yes it can be done.A friend of mine did it by taking cuttings from a mother tree that was already outdoors and immediately putting the cuttings in a small bucket with the proper ph water.Then he went to a shaded spot under bushes with minimal light and dipped the cuttings in Clonex rooting gel then put the cuttings in peat pellets that were pre-soaked in a rooting solution.He then placed the cuttings in a humidity dome and sprayed the cover heavily with proper ph water.After a week he wet the peat pellets with rooting solution and added a quarter of an inch of rooting solution at the bottom of the humidity dome.by the 14th day the roots were showing.
 

Crusso

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Im not an experienced grower but during my first time growing in Florida I experimented cloning outdoors.

Took cuttings outdoors from my feminized Himalaya Gold.




Here was my setup and clones.





I tryed 4 clones ( should have done more )

2 in water and 2 in germination soil, all cuttings dipped in Take Root Shultz hormone.

I bought the container at walmart, didnt use the lid. I wrapped and taped the top opening with seran (plastic) wrap so rain wouldn't drown them then poked about 6 holes around the sides and filled the bottom part of the container with water to keep the soil and container moist. Sorry I have no pics of that.

It worked fine at keeping the humidity in. In fact worked too good, the clones began developing mold from too much humidity and began dieing so I left it alone..

About 2 weeks later I decide to check what happened to the roots. So I pull all the dead plants out and 1 out of the 4 had started rooting in the soil!!

Although it was dead, it answered my first question of whether a clone could root outdoors, and it can.

Perhaps if i made bigger holes on the sides for more air, the cuttings would have survived and rooted successfully.

What do you guys think?
 

lehua96734

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hey kkday. yea I'v airlayed before but it usually took about 4-5 weeks before I saw any roots. but this was not weed, it was a puakenekene also. your grandma taught me how also.give it a try either gonna work or not.
 

SilentBob024

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Hmm. This is a neat thread. I'll give it a go for the name of science. I have three outdoors and two need to be topped. I also got one more inside I can take some cuttings from easily. Here's what I'll try. I'll make up some clone feed water right now after posting. I'll make enough for a big spray bottle worth and to expand a couple rockwool cubes. Once those are expanded enough, Ill dip my clippings in rooting gel and into the cubes. I'll have my holes in the ground dug out and I'll take a couple water bottles and cut the top and bottoms off and then the remainder part of the bottles in half. Then use those like a guard to help ensure wild weeds don't just do away with the clones by stealing moisture and nutrients as easily from them. I'll put the inflated cubes with dirt inside the bottle sections. Oh I forgot to mention not only is the bottom obviously open on the ends of the bottle sections but I'll put some holes in it lower down to help roots expand if it takes off. Then, I'll do a next step side by side idea. I got 2 clone domes. I'll use them on 2-3 of the cuttings to help retain moisture and heat, and let the other 2 free bird it without a dome in the shade as well and see if and what works at all with cutting and cloning directly outside. I'll post pictures every couple days till it either thrives or dies lol. I say in the name of science but hones tly I think I'm just bored and curious about this after reading the thread lol
 

SilentBob024

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Actually to make it more like what the thread is going after, I just put the cuttings in loosened up dirt like you would directly outdoors. But as I suspected, they drooped right over. Probably to much air all at once, and lack there of constant moisture for foliar feedings on leaves. I did cheat a touch though. I did foliar feed them today. Still drooped right over and doing crappy lol. If they don't pick up what so ever in the next week or so I think it's a good indicator of how cutting and cloning directly outside might go overall lol. The others in the thread may be right. Miiiiight want to think about stabilizing clones before taking them outdoors. Even if just a little bit.
 

SilentBob024

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But... I've an idea I have been mulling over for a few years. Might try it out this winter. No idea how it will go or anything lol. I mean proooobably a bit of a waste of time and all but. I was thinking. How could I extend the life of a mother plant before it gets stocks so thick you could build a house out of after all the topping cutting and so on lol. I got to thinking. Well.. What if, you lst it to grow side ways right, maybe twirl it around the pot to add extra availability for cuttings in the future, but kept doing lst till it could reach the center of a pot. Then, keep lst training it to swirl the pot but designate a node, or top it there and skin it once it's trained to go downwards into the pot so you could use that tip with some rooting gel and extend roots into another pot entirely as well. Then repeat the process to one more pot. Have 2-3 pots for one plants root system it's legally just one plant right. A way to "up the count" without upping the count so to speak.
 
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