Dave's 3rd Grow: Pineapple Chunk in DWC w/fogger

lordjin said:

Marijuana has been used as a meditative, spiritual sacrament for ages.

Alright, man. But you know if you report that they've displeased you I'm just gonna say quit. And when you say it's not so bad, then I'm just gonna say you're the best judge. So there you have it.

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That's wise advice that I agree with wholeheartedly.

God damn, I had a horrible pain flare up this afternoon. No amount of meditation could have made it bearable. Like being stabbed by a knife for 20 minutes. Fuckin nerve pain all the way from my mid-back down to my toes. But I was stuck in a hospital bed at the time recovering from a kidney biopsy and couldn't come home to smoke my pot, which would have taken care of it I'm sure. Just had to wait it out. I'm going to have a serious talk with the pain doctors about that on Monday. When you have acute pain like that, you need medicine, period.

Checked the temp and took a gander at the plant just now. Temp is down to 74. Still a bit high, but better than 79. Leaves got noticeably bigger over the past 24 hours. I'd love to do a time lapse movie of it. Anyway, growing just fine. It's nice to know that in this early stage of development I can leave the plant alone for a few days, so I could maybe leave town for a weekend.

This weekend I'll try to change the water finally and start putting frozen water bottles in the res to cool down the water. Maybe I'll put another computer fan at the air intake to the cabinet, too, to increase the airflow. Hopefully, that will cool down the air a bit.

lordjin said:

A classic example of the medical establishment rejecting alternative, holistic, EFFECTIVE medication. Drug companies pay research grants, they get nothing from the cannabis industry. I say walk away.

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Oh yeah, I know that the drug companies brainwash doctors starting with med school and ever after. That's also why so many doctors have a hatred of nutritional supplements.

When I started this grow I originally planned to begin the flower phase one week from today. But as you'll see below, my little plant is way behind schedule. She looks healthy, but not as big as I hoped. She was a tiny micro-bitch when I put her in the tub, so needed time to poke out a root. But she also needs stronger light now I think. I gotta lower my light fixture as soon as I can buy a pair of those height adjusting wire spools. Lost the ones I used last time.

Anyhow... I finally changed my res water today. Here's what the res looks like from certain nutes when they sit in the tub too long:



Advanced Nutrients Sensi Grow A and B-52 are both brown, so one or the other must have settled out a bit. Glad I don't have any pumps in the res, just what you see here. (Fogger and air stone.) I'm bad, I know.

Here are some plant pics from today:


Not very tall yet. She has been growing faster in the past week, though.




Roots have been taking off in the last week, too.






Cleaned out the tub real nice.

I wish I could pump more air in the res, but have to keep the noise down. I only put about 4-5 gallons of water in my res, though. On the left is an ultrasonic fogger (turned off here). It feeds the roots above the water with microscopic water droplets. Lately it's been heating up the water too much, so I'm now starting to put frozen water bottles in the res.

Here's the pump I used today to pump the water out of my res:

You attach a power drill to that metal rod sticking out and fire it up to pump water. I just attached washing machine hoses to the pump.

The new water I used was stored in the garage, so it was only 41 degrees at first. Had to warm it up before putting my plant in it.

64° water temp
666 ppm
5.68 pH

74° air temp in cabinet. Want to lower that a couple of degrees if I can.

Water temp was back up to 77° tonight, so dropped a frozen water bottle in it. Went down to 74° within 5 minutes. Might need to do this twice a day, because the fogger heats the water back up.

pH was high, so adjusted it down to 5.52.

She's looking healthy and growing.

I ordered some height adjusters for my light fixture, so they should come this week I hope.

Last weekend's water change must have made a big difference. She's spreading out and growing new leaves nicely. Maybe the higher ppm's?





Just some of the leaves are curling a bit:



The first thing that comes to mind is heat stress, but not not sure. The cabinet is 74.5°, which I don't think is terrible. I'll have to keep putting frozen bottles in the res. Any other ideas?

Forgot to mention... about the pain clinic. They told me that they checked the THC level in my blood. Funny, the only blood test I had was supposedly for vitamin D. Sneaky bastards! But the funny thing is that they told me my THC level was very high, about halfway up the scale. And I only smoke once per night regularly. Just think what they'd say about most of the other people on this web site who stay medicated all day. The docs think I'm bad. Ha!

daveroller said:

Forgot to mention... about the pain clinic. They told me that they checked the THC level in my blood. Funny, the only blood test I had was supposedly for vitamin D. Sneaky bastards! But the funny thing is that they told me my THC level was very high, about halfway up the scale. And I only smoke once per night regularly. Just think what they'd say about most of the other people on this web site who stay medicated all day. The docs think I'm bad. Ha!

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I was joking with some other guy that you could get high just by sniffing my urine. I wouldn't recommend drinking it. Lol.

daveroller said:

Last weekend's water change must have made a big difference. She's spreading out and growing new leaves nicely. Maybe the higher ppm's?

Just some of the leaves are curling a bit:

The first thing that comes to mind is heat stress, but not not sure. The cabinet is 74.5°, which I don't think is terrible. I'll have to keep putting frozen bottles in the res. Any other ideas?

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The temperature is great. What's the humidity?

I wouldn't concern myself too much with that. The plant looks really vibrant and healthy. That's the AN.

lordjin said:

The temperature is great. What's the humidity?

I wouldn't concern myself too much with that. The plant looks really vibrant and healthy. That's the AN.

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Ok, thanks for your input, Jin. Humidity's been around 20-25%. Yeah, I noticed that the leaf curl is decreasing now. I'll post a couple of new pics. I'm getting happier with her now. I must have abused her with neglect when I didn't change the res water for such a long time.

lordjin said:

I was joking with some other guy that you could get high just by sniffing my urine. I wouldn't recommend drinking it. Lol.

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I bet the docs' jaws would drop if they saw your THC blood level. lol. Probably at the top of their scale. But hey, it's doing you good. Tomorrow I'm going to ask the head doctor a big question that's been on my mind: Why should people suffer through pain if they don't have to??? I've discovered that meditation can take the edge off pain. It worked for me last night pretty well. But most of the day every day I've been pretty fucking uncomfortable since I've stopped toking. And I had one horrible pain flare up that was so bad that I don't even want to describe it. Either this has to subside with time, which I'm hoping is the point of this pain clinic, or I'm going to say "fuck this shit, this isn't right". I know I'll start smoking pot again as soon as the clinic's over either way. But since pot is illegal here, I probably won't always have some on hand. So I want to have the ability to manage my pain when I don't have good medication. Anyway, I haven't drunk all the Kool-Aid yet and I've been pissing off the doctors a little by questioning them in their classes. (I just don't mention pot in front of the other patients, because self-medication is a very forbidden subject.)

I probably worried too much about the curl in some of the leaves, because it seems to be getting better.

Today's pics:







Lots of root growth in the past few days:


ppm:.........700
pH:..........5.73
air temp:....74°
water temp:..77° (before dropping 2 frozen water bottles in it)

The leaves are really starting to size up now. Love the speed of hydro. The plant is looking great. Super green and plump. Hope you're having a happy holiday.

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I notice you get good side branching. Should make for a good wide train. You gonna scrog that, right? Keep up the good work.

lordjin said:

The leaves are really starting to size up now. Love the speed of hydro. The plant is looking great. Super green and plump. Hope you're having a happy holiday.

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I notice you get good side branching. Should make for a good wide train. You gonna scrog that, right? Keep up the good work.

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Thanks man! I hope you're having a nice holiday yourself. I've been really busy with family. Not only xmas stuff, but my stepdaughter got married a few weeks ago and I'm working on the photos and video that we took.

Anyway, my plant is really taking off now, as you noticed. I'm planning to start LST'ing her tomorrow when I change the water. I'm going out to buy some RO water tonight. I was planning to SCROG her, but I'll see what I can get done tomorrow. I need to pace myself and try not to overdo it, because my old back's been spasming a lot. I really want to do a SCROG, though.

I need to flip over to the flower phase pretty soon, maybe sooner than I would if I didn't have a deadline. We're going on a cruise in early March, so will need to chop it down before then.

Good to hear from you, Jin man!

Well, she's growing faster now:



BUT:





I wonder if it's nute burn...? When I changed the water last week I raised the ppm from 500 to around 666 at the time. Now it's closer to 700 ppm. The pH in the res is 5.58. That's good, isn't it? Humidity is about 29% right now.

I didn't take a picture of the roots this time, but they're brown above the water line. I thought that was just some nutrient that settled out and got vaporized by the fogger and deposited on the roots. Could that be root rot?

pH:........5.58
water temp:..78°
air temp:....75°
ppm:........700
humidity:....29%

Here's one more photo that shows how she's gotten taller since my last posting:



WOW! It really is a weed.

Tomorrow I'll change the water and start LST'ing her.

That's way too much nute with AN. Concentration going up is a sure sign that the plant doesn't want that much. I tried that with my plants, too, and zap! Burn just like that. Keep it at 500ppm. Don't get overzealous with raising week to week.

Touch your roots with sterilized hands. Slime? I bet it's not.

hey im not sure are anything but are the roots supposed to be brown im not trying to be a dick or anything just stoned and being a curious cat lol

lordjin said:

That's way too much nute with AN. Concentration going up is a sure sign that the plant doesn't want that much. I tried that with my plants, too, and zap! Burn just like that. Keep it at 500ppm. Don't get overzealous with raising week to week.

Touch your roots with sterilized hands. Slime? I bet it's not.

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Thanks, Jin. The damaged leaf looks like the nute burn picture in my mj disease book, too. Now that you're confirming, I'm sure that's what it is. I didn't dilute the res water enough after mistakenly mixing according to AN's instructions. I'll lower it down around 500 ppm when I change the water today.

ale420 said:

hey im not sure are anything but are the roots supposed to be brown im not trying to be a dick or anything just stoned and being a curious cat lol

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That's not a dick-ish question at all, so don't worry about it. I'll check to see if they're slimy tomorrow when I change the water, like Jin recommended. If they aren't, they should be ok.

Hey Jin... This question's mostly for you, since you've been doing a lot of LST'ing. Should I just start bending the main stem or can I also bend a lower branch in the opposite direction? I remember in your current grow that you had 2 stems from each plant going in opposite directions.