dealers, how do they make money

don2009 said:

Yeah right you must grow if you aint paying that much cuz thats the minimum in NY

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Exactly.....

NoDrama said:

You CANNOT compare prices in the 70's or 80's to prices now, there is a thing called INFLATION and it makes your currency purchase less and less. Know why a candy bar used to cost 5cents but now costs $1, it aint becasue its harder to make or the materials are harder to get, or the people have to work harder to make them. Nope, the only reason the price goes up is because they keep printing more and more currency making all the currency you own purchase less and less. ANYONE who says they study economics and then states that prices 40 years ago were less than they are now and do not understand why, are simpletons who don't pay attention in class.

Sellers will charge the MAXIMUM that people will pay, almost always. The only time a business does not is when they are looking to increase exposure to a market or are having a special sale to promote a product in the hopes it will stimulate more sales.

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Listen, I could state in very measured and roundabout ways exactly how you are wrong, but my dad and his friends are decent sources of information so it's not really necessary. Aw, fuck it, I'll put it in a way that you're very proud self can understand:
My dad would have started REALLY growing when he was about 25, but was still consistently buying, and at that time (in 1970), a US dollar was equivalent in its buying power to c. $5.75 today. My dad would pay five bucks for a lid, or ROUGHLY 3/4 oz. of Thai stick, incredible compacted weed with a less stems and seeds than most people think (back then they rolled up everything, so obviously no MAJOR ruffage, right?). So my dad essentially paid $28.50 for 3/4 oz of NICE, NICE fuckin weed, reputedly some of the best ever smoked in the USA. And you're trying to claim $20 a gram (about 14 times my dad's prices, inflation CONSIDERED, ceteris paribum) is justified? You can take in any number of variables you like, and that still don't make a lick of damn sense.

Despite your attempts to play me down as a know-it-all, clearly you don't know much about dealing, or you would also realize that dealers do NOT always charge "the most they can". The less you charge for your weed, the more word gets around and the faster it will go. You also DRASTICALLY reduce the chances of getting jacked, because no one likes to jack a fair dealer (okay, some people, but not many). An urban grower tends to get rid of their shit at very nice prices to get it gone, and often low-balling dealers control streets very effectively--- I was one of them. This is a very basic part of economics, it's referred to as the equilibrium pricet. Lowering prices will send the equilibrium price down, because the market is limited and diverse, and if you can continue to supply effectively then you will put your competitors out of business (demand for substitutes will drop), and your demand will grow exponentially to the point where you can offer ridiculously low prices. Basically a snowball effect, very simple.

So anyone who charges you $20 a g is generally ripping you off. I stand by my "smack a nigga" statement.

And a chocolate bar was not worth so little because of inflation... it was worth that little because the market was understated, and more local than it is today. You saying that makes me want to SMACK a nigga.

Thank you.

Mynamehere said:

lol i aint payin no 20 a gram in new york

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Yeah I've worked in New York and seen way better prices, $120 a sack for some half-decent mids, but it depends on your people. The artist community in Jersey City is QUICK to pay $600 a sack for some nice snack.

Gamberro said:

Despite your attempts to play me down as a know-it-all, clearly you don't know much about dealing, or you would also realize that dealers do NOT always charge "the most they can". The less you charge for your weed, the more word gets around and the faster it will go. You also DRASTICALLY reduce the chances of getting jacked, because no one likes to jack a fair dealer (okay, some people, but not many). An urban grower tends to get rid of their shit at very nice prices to get it gone, and often low-balling dealers control streets very effectively--- I was one of them. This is a very basic part of economics, it's referred to as the equilibrium pricet. Lowering prices will send the equilibrium price down, because the market is limited and diverse, and if you can continue to supply effectively then you will put your competitors out of business (demand for substitutes will drop), and your demand will grow exponentially to the point where you can offer ridiculously low prices. Basically a snowball effect, very simple.

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I didn't say dealers ALWAYS charge the most, try reading it again. Try understanding what you are reading before then going on to write a one paragraph explanation that says the exact same thing I said in my last sentence. Its somewhat redundant and boring reading 3 times as much material to make the same point.

As for prices, you can get $20 a G if you live in certain parts of the country. In Fact you can charge that much and run out of product in a few days because of such high demand. You need quality, consistency, reliability to do this. You also have to be willing to sell it in small amounts to get $20 a g. If you expect to sell your entire harvest for that your not going to get it, volume discounts. You'll get half that if your lucky. Wholesale vs Retail.

No one is going to Jack you for being an "Unfair" dealer, if they don't like your prices they won't buy from you. You don't stick a knife up to the Wal Mart guys throat just because the price of shit paper is 10 cents more than K-Mart's. You buy your TP at K-Mart is what you do. Its called business.


I might also explain how a Chocolate bar is "Worth" the same as it was 60 years ago, but I'll save that for some other day.

I never said you can't sell it for 20 a G, I simply stated that I would not put up with that kind of price, matterless the quality. And people won't jack you for being an unfair dealer, no, but if you have a good reputation and are well-respected as a fair dealer, then you are LESS likely to get jacked.

The penalties for dealing in the US are greater then in Canada, hence why the price is high in parts of the US. Common sense

I live in NY contrary to those here who know everything about NY but rarely if ever come here lol. $20 a gram is the price for good shit. 7 times out of 10 your not getting a whole gram either .8 or .9. Thai sticks if your talking about chocolate Thai been there done that had some in the recent years lets just say after 06. Prices were $400- $500 a quarter pound. Come compressed like a little brick pretty cool. I hewed rumors that you can spray it with water and microwave it to uncompress it never tried tho. But that was going for 45-60 a quarter ounce!

I used to live in NY and I worked there extensively, and I WAS just there, just to qualify my NY statements, and you can easily get decent shit for a hundred-something a sack-- not the exotic shit, of course not, but really decent weed. Chocolate Thai though? Naw that's some recent shit, we're going way back. But that shit is INCREDIBLE, I took some friends in my whip and salvaged the leftovers at a raided grow op valued at 30M, some Chinese niggas. Got a couple pounds and the shit was incredible.

I'm not going to pretend that I've lived in New York, but I have a good guess why bud is so expensive there. Some friends of mine used to by pounds off of growers in Cali from anywhere between 1000 (high grade outdoor, probably what most non growers would consider hydro) and 2000 (Hydro grown purples). He then, in turn, would sell his pounds to dealers in New York for $4000-6000 a pound, depending on quality. Every dealer wanted to snatch up the infamous "Cali weed," because it sells like hot cakes in the east coast (apparently). I happen to know quite a bit of people who do this. Why? Because weed laws are incredibly relaxed in SF... they really don't care if you have weed, but they are strict as fuck in New York. Unless you are growing the weed, and you have seen your "friend's" grow op, don't believe that the weed you just bought was grown in New York, sadly, it probably wasn't. I have considered doing this many times with my homegrown, but I'd rather not sell weed for a living.
Again, this theory is back by my experience with a few friends. They send more than 10lbs of bud a week, so I'm assuming that they supply a good amount of New York, and there are many MANY others like them that live in San Francisco.
Don't believe me that Cali has better weed than your NY bammer? Come to Northern California and try some out. I guarantee that if you walk into almost any liqour store in Humboldt, Trinity, or Mendo county (Emerald Triangle) you'll probably find a grower willing to sell his bud for around 1-2k a pound.

I ran into a grower in Mendo Co.that was selling lbs for $2k-2200 for ID/$1500 OD. The only reason I didn't grab it was because how we encountered eachothers attention. I felt he could of been FEDS... Now I know some of the common friends so I grab ID every other week for $2200.

well in scotland the weed is soaked by the bloody tryiads and any good weed is priced very high,somtimes 25-30 the eight.
so when I(used to) buy 3.5 grams it maybe (normally not) 3.5 grams,but is wet and crappy. so it turns to about a gram for £20.

that how dealers make there money,,they dont care about quailty,long as people will buy it......poor smokers...

On the real, this is a dumbass question

this guy has obviously never brought a gram of weed for a £10ner