deficiency question for a noob?

grow4fun420

grow4fun420

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...also thought that the plants might of been drooping from the newly added LED. So I watered and killed the LED just until the perk back up. plan on turning it back on with in the hour (might of been too close?).
 
Jeffdogg

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grow4fun420 said:
...also thought that the plants might of been drooping from the newly added LED. So I watered and killed the LED just until the perk back up. plan on turning it back on with in the hour (might of been too close?).
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If the LED is too close most likely it will look like its "bleaching" the leaves, the leaves will go from green to more of a whitish color
 
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jhpokesmot420

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IMG_20131122_213914.jpgIMG_20131122_213927.jpgIMG_20131122_213948.jpgdo u think my ultraviolet is to small looked on my calendar its 22 days old it looks kinda small is this normal i havent used veg nutes yet can this be the reason its small? heres new pics
 
Jeffdogg

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Thats 22 days old? Id scrap it and start over. But before i start over i would do some hella research and watch as many grow vids i could bud

These pics are a bag seed im using to test the LED for my real plants im gonna grow, better to test the intensity on a seed i didnt pay money for ;P. the seed is roughly 16-17 days old. This is just to compare to your 22 day old to see the difference, good thing i did some testing cause it was too intense at 20'' away from the top as you can easily see

IMG_0917.jpgIMG_0918.jpg Note this isn't an auto its a photo bag seed, i know to most of us know that was implied but to others that is a photo. Why compare it? Because his is still too small for 22 even for AF :). Love you guys :blsmoke:
 
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Fresh 2 De@th

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tekdc911 said:
its calmag
the thing with calmag is that its slow acting giving it more wont fix it it will actually make it worse by locking out other nutes
feed it and if it doesnt get worse then your fine for a while the leaves will never really heal they will just stop getting worse the spots that are there already will grow with the leaves they may get bigger but not spread to other parts
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wrong, since when is cal/mag a slow acting element? it's the complete opposite if anything.
the only way it could be locked out is if ph isn't in range to absorb it (too acidic), too much of it and or excessive potassium/nitrogen or phosphorous.

as for the ops issue, it definitely looks cal related. there's quite a few ways to treat it, but you must find out where the problem stems from.
 
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jhpokesmot420

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i have 4 26 watt 6500k cfl 1 42watt2700k cfl 1 68watt 2700k cfl have 3 4inch fans for exhaust 4inch rotating fan havent checked ph still waitin on the meter i ordered
 
tekdc911

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Fresh 2 De@th said:
wrong, since when is cal/mag a slow acting element? it's the complete opposite if anything.
the only way it could be locked out is if ph isn't in range to absorb it (too acidic), too much of it and or excessive potassium/nitrogen or phosphorous.

as for the ops issue, it definitely looks cal related. there's quite a few ways to treat it, but you must find out where the problem stems from.
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could the reason be its just a calmag whore just tossin that out there
 
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think it might have been soil cause i just used cheap shit lol deff been doing more research gunna get all the proper equipment and gunna use fox farm ocean forest soil and perlite for my new grow have one more question should i just keep growing the stunted plant will it even produce anything?
 
tekdc911

tekdc911

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probably not
wont even be worth your time
may be entertaining to watch but thats about it brother
i use a party cup size pocket of seed starter where i plant the seed in the final container
the plant will grow into the richer soil and be able to handle it by the time it does
i follow the directions on the seed starter bag which is to soak the starter 30 mins to a hour before using it
and then i water with a spray bottle when the top dries up on the seed starter kinda set it and forget it honestly
 
grow4fun420

grow4fun420

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Thanks for the tips Tek and Jeffdog! I did the best I can do to try to correct the situation I had. No new changes so far, so I'll take that as a good sign lol:joint:
 
grow4fun420

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jhpokesmot420 said:
think it might have been soil cause i just used cheap shit lol deff been doing more research gunna get all the proper equipment and gunna use fox farm ocean forest soil and perlite for my new grow have one more question should i just keep growing the stunted plant will it even produce anything?
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Just a tip bud, but I would't use Fox Farm's Ocean Forest as I have learned from experience that it is to "hot" for autos. Not only have I learned this, but I read this many times over. I consider myself kind of stuborn, so I went ahead and had to learn for myself, lol... Just some food for thought bongsmilie
 
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Fresh 2 De@th

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grow4fun420 said:
I'm hate to say that I'm going to go ahead and feed and water them tonight. They are drooping real good so they have me kind of nervous. I'm going to go ahead and water and feed with cal/mag and I hope the bloom nutes aren't a mistake with a NPK of 2-4-4. But I suspect from what appears to be dead tissue (unless I'm mistaken) that 1 or 2 of my girls have a phosphorus deficiency. I think these are the real first problems I've run in to besides nute burn. Any help is much appreciated!
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hmm, there may lie your problem. from what i am seeing, it appears that you're in soil, using hydro based formula nutes. not saying that's the exact problem, but just going on what was said.
also, could be from waterlogged roots, roots staying wet for too long or poor aeration in the medium. if so, add another fan or two to help better air circulation.
another thing, epsom salt going into the medium only adds to the problem (especially if a cal and mag problem exist). in most cases you are better off just using a cal/mag supplement. if you have to use epsom salt, i would suggest foliar feeding with it.

tekdc911 said:
could the reason be its just a calmag whore just tossin that out there
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as i stated, it could be a number of things.
me personally, i would test my runoff ph and ppms and start from there. now, testing the ph in the runoff isn't always right and exact, but definitely will give you an indication where ph may be at at the time the problem exist.
 
grow4fun420

grow4fun420

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Fresh 2 De@th said:
hmm, there may lie your problem. from what i am seeing, it appears that you're in soil, using hydro based formula nutes. not saying that's the exact problem, but just going on what was said.
also, could be from waterlogged roots, roots staying wet for too long or poor aeration in the medium. if so, add another fan or two to help better air circulation.
another thing, epsom salt going into the medium only adds to the problem (especially if a cal and mag problem exist). in most cases you are better off just using a cal/mag supplement. if you have to use epsom salt, i would suggest foliar feeding with it.


as i stated, it could be a number of things.
me personally, i would test my runoff ph and ppms and start from there. now, testing the ph in the runoff isn't always right and exact, but definitely will give you an indication where ph may be at at the time the problem exist.
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Thanks for the info fresh...Honestly I never thought to test the run-off. Rookie mistake, lol :bigjoint: But I have to correct you on the nutes I'm using... They are not hydro based, you must be thinking of General Hydroponics? General Organics is suitable for all types of soil and growing culture. I have used these nutes many times over.
 
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