Nullis
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dopedeeii, I would have commended you for not resorting to personal attacks and degradation, but you kind of did. Other than that and the fact that you are at times difficult to follow you have had a decent demeanor, unlike Fresh and Doomsday.
...But dare they say any "science"or proof of anything whatsoever has been laid out before me. And call me a "non-believer"... LOL. That was one of my points, that you can't trust other peoples "personal experimentation". By God, if you guys think I am close minded you have absolutely no idea.
Plus, I am pretty sure we already touched on "personal experimentation" in this thread, as well as confirmation bias. Not that it doesn't help to experiment on a personal level but most people don't know what "experimenting" entails and are not familiar with the scientific method and yes that kind of makes a difference. In order to get results that are valid, and reproducible, all variables must be accounted for that can be (including genetics, lighting)... so, for example, having two groups of clones that must receive virtually equal amounts of everything and be treated exactly the same, but for one single variable.
Sure, on a personal level you do "what works for you", but on here if you want to talk about growing methods and argue against conventional and practical knowledge of plant biology, well sorry, I would expect a more favorable demeanor and something more persuasive, less bashing.
(dopedeeii) That pile of leaves, compared to the number of plants I see in there... really not significant leaf loss. Was it necessary? I am not going to argue that with you. I personally would have opted to leave the fan leaves alone, while trimming the lower branches if necessary (used for clones if possible). From my perspective, the plant will harvest what it needs\can from those leaves (nutrients and assembled organic compounds) and it will begin to detach naturally.
You don't know how many frickin threads I have seen over the years... new growers posting about how they removed most or all of the leaves from their plant to some degree, because the leaves "were blocking the buds" and their friend said or they had read that whatever. Again, I think: why not move the leaf out of the way. Why not use side lighting. Why not use more intense lighting, grow shorter plants, use a trellis, etc.
Say whatever the hell you want about me, but how dare anyone say they have "scientifically proven or planted" anything in this thread. This one fellow doesn't even believe that 'irrelevant' is a word. Inane.
...But dare they say any "science"or proof of anything whatsoever has been laid out before me. And call me a "non-believer"... LOL. That was one of my points, that you can't trust other peoples "personal experimentation". By God, if you guys think I am close minded you have absolutely no idea.
Plus, I am pretty sure we already touched on "personal experimentation" in this thread, as well as confirmation bias. Not that it doesn't help to experiment on a personal level but most people don't know what "experimenting" entails and are not familiar with the scientific method and yes that kind of makes a difference. In order to get results that are valid, and reproducible, all variables must be accounted for that can be (including genetics, lighting)... so, for example, having two groups of clones that must receive virtually equal amounts of everything and be treated exactly the same, but for one single variable.
Sure, on a personal level you do "what works for you", but on here if you want to talk about growing methods and argue against conventional and practical knowledge of plant biology, well sorry, I would expect a more favorable demeanor and something more persuasive, less bashing.
(dopedeeii) That pile of leaves, compared to the number of plants I see in there... really not significant leaf loss. Was it necessary? I am not going to argue that with you. I personally would have opted to leave the fan leaves alone, while trimming the lower branches if necessary (used for clones if possible). From my perspective, the plant will harvest what it needs\can from those leaves (nutrients and assembled organic compounds) and it will begin to detach naturally.
You don't know how many frickin threads I have seen over the years... new growers posting about how they removed most or all of the leaves from their plant to some degree, because the leaves "were blocking the buds" and their friend said or they had read that whatever. Again, I think: why not move the leaf out of the way. Why not use side lighting. Why not use more intense lighting, grow shorter plants, use a trellis, etc.
Say whatever the hell you want about me, but how dare anyone say they have "scientifically proven or planted" anything in this thread. This one fellow doesn't even believe that 'irrelevant' is a word. Inane.
