Diablo OG In Dual Monster Plant System

mr.smileyface

mr.smileyface

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lordjin said:
The high temp is the trade-off. There's nothing I can do about it short of turning the light off completely. I don't see a lack in density.

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Also, higher temps, if you can manage it without killing the plants, paired with low humidity causes the buds to produce more resin to protect themselves from drying out... resulting in more potency. These buds and leaves are getting battered by high temps and constant wind. This is a good preventative measure against mold, and again, results in greater potency as the plant seeks to protect itself with oils. It's actually the finished plants with droopy downward leaves that are less potent.
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Id have to dissagree as i think the opposite. Cold increases potentcy.
In the heat the buds dont get as hard and dense. They tend to foxtail and fluff out.
But everyone has opions. The ones closest to the a/c are always the hardest and roundest. Or the ones closest to the intake. A couple degrees can make a differnts. I put a oilfilledthermostat in the middle of the room at canopey height. But my intake blows at the thermostat from ten feet away. My outtake is in the furthest part of the room. hung with chain. Fan is in the other room because inlines suck air. Ive got the 12" inch max can fan. It does 1700cfm. It has a filter on it and 9 feet of ducting so its probly moving closer to 1300cfm. I use a 8 inch inline as an intake. And in summer im gonna add another four inch fan. I had to add intake space, cause the poly walls bubble out.
The temps on my a/c are reading 77f. My thermostat is set for 26. It turns off sometimes. I doubt it gets over 30c in my room. Once your room hits 90f it goes downhill. It doesnt add to bag appeal. I grow for bag appeal. Try to find the min and max in your room. You need more space for 1000w. You would get alot more.
That shit looks killler tho. I doubt your room is that hott. Like you said the low humidity. You got the air cooled shade tho. I tend to raise my light up a bit the couple weeks. Because the plants tell me to.
 
lordjin

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mr.smileyface said:
Id have to dissagree as i think the opposite. Cold increases potentcy.
In the heat the buds dont get as hard and dense. They tend to foxtail and fluff out.
But everyone has opions. The ones closest to the a/c are always the hardest and roundest. Or the ones closest to the intake. A couple degrees can make a differnts. I put a oilfilledthermostat in the middle of the room at canopey height. But my intake blows at the thermostat from ten feet away. My outtake is in the furthest part of the room. hung with chain. Fan is in the other room because inlines suck air. Ive got the 12" inch max can fan. It does 1700cfm. It has a filter on it and 9 feet of ducting so its probly moving closer to 1300cfm. I use a 8 inch inline as an intake. And in summer im gonna add another four inch fan. I had to add intake space, cause the poly walls bubble out.
The temps on my a/c are reading 77f. My thermostat is set for 26. It turns off sometimes. I doubt it gets over 30c in my room. Once your room hits 90f it goes downhill. It doesnt add to bag appeal. I grow for bag appeal. Try to find the min and max in your room. You need more space for 1000w. You would get alot more.
That shit looks killler tho. I doubt your room is that hott. Like you said the low humidity. You got the air cooled shade tho. I tend to raise my light up a bit the couple weeks. Because the plants tell me to.
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Goddammit, stop arguing with me...Lol.

I know, I know I need more space so my plants can breathe more. I'm thinking of just doubling this up with a uc hybrid hookup, moving to a 5x5 tent with two lights. I think you might be a little happier with that?

Yes, I agree. The more moderate temp condition is better for the plants. It's just a way I have of rationalizing the heat. The intense concentration of lumens is my advantage, but the heat is the flip side.

Thanks for reading!
 
lordjin

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Okay, so I don't normally deviate from OGK, but the girl at the shop had something new for me this time. A very purple batch of something called God's Gift. It's a pure indica and it's making the roof of my mouth vibrate.


 
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Ring that bell! It's time yet again for the Weekly Calendar Girl update. I cut out some of the larger yellow leaves last night and tied up some more lower saggers. They're looking even bigger. I think I have my bulking regimen down to a science now.










The next two are a closer look at the smaller plant 2. As I tied up some of her sagging branches, I could feel her weight. She's coming around, and that makes me feel A LOT better about prospective yield.

 
sleezy1

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lordjin said:
Okay, so I don't normally deviate from OGK, but the girl at the shop had something new for me this time. A very purple batch of God's Gift. It's a pure indica and it's making the roof of my mouth vibrate.


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Lordjin, your not moving away from og kush! God's gift is a cross between grand daddy purple and og kush!!
 
lordjin

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sleezy1 said:
Just did a quick trim job of all the yellow leaves and tried to take up close pics.
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Very nice. I like photo number five a lot. It reminds me of one of mine. Anyway, I'm so fucking high on this God's gift right now. Is that different from Godfather?

I'm pretty amazed that it's a soil plant. That light def does what it's supposed to. What kind of dry figure you hoping for on that girl?
 
sleezy1

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lordjin said:
Very nice. I like photo number five a lot. It reminds me of one of mine. Anyway, I'm so fucking high on this God's gift right now. Is that different from Godfather?

I'm pretty amazed that it's a soil plant. That light def does what it's supposed to. What kind of dry figure you hoping for on that girl?
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Yea god's gift is different that godfather. Godfather had purple erkle and something else I forgot. I thought about your plant in pic #5. guess in yield.... Shit I don't know. I would be amazed if i got 150 grams for 1 gram per watt! I'd be happy with 3-4 zips! What do you think?
 
lordjin

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sleezy1 said:
Yea god's gift is different that godfather. Godfather had purple erkle and something else I forgot. I thought about your plant in pic #5. guess in yield.... Shit I don't know. I would be amazed if i got 150 grams for 1 gram per watt! I'd be happy with 3-4 zips! What do you think?
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I think you can get more than 3 zips. 4 ounces minimum. I think 4 is the very least you'll get. Def more the longer you wait it out.

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I just clicked through your photos again. Really? You estimate that low? I don't know, that shit looks pretty impressive to me. Sometimes it helps to visualize how many mason jars it would fill. One mason jar holds an ounce of dense nug comfortably with just enough room to breathe and stir. That could be more bud than you think. You also have to consider the density of OGK. A really dense OG will look like less but weigh the same or more than a larger airier nug.

Anyway, I'm about to mix a bowl of half God's Gift and half Tahoe OGK. Wish me luck.bongsmilie

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I just smoked the half God's half Tahoe bowl. Wow. My eyes feel like they're gently being pulled into my head. Fantastic.bongsmilie
 
sleezy1

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I'm hoping! It's better to hope for less and get surprised! I'm waiting it out bud! Got a half oz of white widow, and half oz of herojuana og and skywalker og. So I shouldn't feel the need to chop early.
 
lordjin

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sleezy1 said:
I'm hoping! It's better to hope for less and get surprised! I'm waiting it out bud! Got a half oz of white widow, and half oz of herojuana og and skywalker og. So I shouldn't feel the need to chop early.
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Wow. You lucky devil. When can I come over? Do you have Wii? Lol.
 
lordjin

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Now just a dash of Headband and this would be perfect. God I'm high. I'm high in my feet... y'know that feeling? Ha ha.
 
lordjin

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A few more shots. A little pulled back to give you a better idea of the breadth of this possible yield.









 
lordjin

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sleezy1 said:
I think you'll get about 24 grams! Great job!
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The sick thing is that they're still gaining weight. Drinking sugar mix at 990ppm and dropping steadily. I'm thinking of taking it to the full 70 days like the package says.

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Oh, and I'm starting to see purple everywhere. Any purple on your nugs?
 
323cheezy

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Just to chime in on the topics of temps.....
Obviously you dont want temps to high or low depending on the strain...
You want to maintian growth and not put you ladies in survival mode....

Ive grown in cold temps and hotter temps....
And i notice that plants will grow faster in high temps...
This is a basic concept in science .....(chemisty)
Its elementry , chemical reactions happen faster in hotter temps....
This theory applies to almost everything.....

For instance:
If u open a can of soda when its hot and leave it out you will notice the carbonation will exit faster...
But if the can is cold and opened...it will take much longer for the carbon to dissapate....
Same thing with people ...youll notice that taller / bigger people are in tropical enviroments...
Have u ever been with a south american chick.... they just grow amazingly thick in all the right places..lol

Ive heard its good too have colder temps at the end of flowering...
So that the nugs will rock up......
But this advice was given to me from someone that isnt as skilled to me..

All in all , i think that cold temps will help bag appeal to some degree..
But plant will grow faster in high 70's to mid 80's...
I always keep mine at around 60-80 degrees.....

I chopped down some louie this morning just a lil....

 
mr.smileyface

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temps should be 25c-29c. That is hot enough for good growth. Ive noticed the buds close to the a/c were much denser and more round. Even tho they arent the same size i can tell they weight the same.
Density: The amount of matter in an object.
The last thing i want in my bag is loose buds. Ive had people turn down my pounds because the buds wernt as tight as pk should be. It was chronic. Nice size buds. But the ones in the bag that stood out the most were the dense ones. I increased airflow and raised the lights up and now im getting over a pound a light of triple A. Im gonna take some pics of it today. It might be on my thread. so check it out tomorrow. Because ill be posting at tonight or tomorrow night
 
mr.smileyface

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lordjin said:
Goddammit, stop arguing with me...Lol.

I know, I know I need more space so my plants can breathe more. I'm thinking of just doubling this up with a uc hybrid hookup, moving to a 5x5 tent with two lights. I think you might be a little happier with that?

Yes, I agree. The more moderate temp condition is better for the plants. It's just a way I have of rationalizing the heat. The intense concentration of lumens is my advantage, but the heat is the flip side.

Thanks for reading!
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I feel when the plants slow down in growth they dont need as much light/nutrients. Im just adding my two cents. Dont be offended. Its just what ive learnt in the past two years of growing. AIr cooled shades kick ass for co2 set up. They are just to darn expensive. For the amount of money i would have to dish out to get the shades its much more cheaper to get a bigger exhaust and intake. But i defintly want to upgrade as summer is coming.
 
mr.smileyface

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Ok sorry to fill your thread. This is how i look at it. You can get away with it being hott in the first month. But look when the plants finish. In sept/oct. the colder end of the season. Pretty much just try to mimiq the greatoutdoors to get the most qaulity.
One of my friends even starts his light cycle out with a MH bulb on a track to mimiq a sunrise. then relays turn each set of hps lights on.
That way there is no surge/spike.
 
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