Did we actually land on the moon?

ZenMaster

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Jeez, you know you really come off as a self righteous know it all we, well I hate to inform you but you are not the smartest person in the world not by a fucking long shot. We did fuckin land on the moon, and anyone educated in the area of space exploration would tell you this, do you think you have a more extensive knowledge of space than the people that work at nasa who have PHd and have been studying things like the moon landing the majority of their life...please.........I think you need to get a college education, stop watching youtube, start doing some reading(starting with this The Moon Hoax Debate ) and stop acting like you are so much smarter than everyone because you really arent...
I'm going to have to agree.
 

PoseidonsNet

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i disagree, home36grown just jumped into the thread without looknig at the 9 second video. lOOk man!

probes landed on the moon,
people did not bcos its not possible to survive out there ... yet

the gravity in the video is three times faster than it should be

if we could go there, then there'd be space tourists going over every weekend
and people would be getting high in 1/6th gravity.

Man that would be cOOl
 

hyphyjoose

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i disagree, home36grown just jumped into the thread without looknig at the 9 second video. lOOk man!

probes landed on the moon,
people did not bcos its not possible to survive out there ... yet

the gravity in the video is three times faster than it should be

if we could go there, then there'd be space tourists going over every weekend
and people would be getting high in 1/6th gravity.

Man that would be cOOl
Every weekend? Do you have any idea how much the fuel costs for a space shuttle? What kind of money goes into building and repairing current and new crafts? What parts of the shuttle are lost in space after deployment? Even the rich would go broke.

A space exploration/high level Astronomy college course would do a great number of you an invaluable service on these forums..
 

hom36rown

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i disagree, home36grown just jumped into the thread without looknig at the 9 second video. lOOk man!

probes landed on the moon,
people did not bcos its not possible to survive out there ... yet

the gravity in the video is three times faster than it should be

if we could go there, then there'd be space tourists going over every weekend
and people would be getting high in 1/6th gravity.

Man that would be cOOl
just because the moons gravity is 1/6 of ours doesnt mean if you had a tape of someone on the moon and put it on 6x ff that is should look like gravity on earth
 

PoseidonsNet

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just because the moons gravity is 1/6 of ours doesnt mean if you had a tape of someone on the moon and put it on 6x ff that is should look like gravity on earth
yes it does,
have u ever calculated gravity before?
Solar System Simulator :-OG2
i made this little game earlier this year.

g is expressed in m.s^-2
any increase in g is the equivalent to a decrease in time. (so long as the proportions are the same)

u can alter the timer in the prog to double the speed
this has the same temporal effect as doubling the g

EXACTLY

do the math

if u can write a little computer game that simulates gravity where u
can increase or decrease the gravity and the speed,
then u will have proved your point.

otherwise just play the game and see for yourself
or any other gravity game

o

with 1970 tech and finance we can go to the moon every 2 months,
but in 2008 we can only go into orbit every year and a half?

not only has tech advanced amazingly in that time
computers are over a million times better, and
the worlds economy has doubled three times since then...

people would pay every spare billion they had to go to the moon.

Why does Russia allow space tourists but America not?
Are my billions not good enough for them or something?

Or do they have something to hide behid that zero gravity pen of theirs?

nice try no cigar, Bill.
 
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Mojination

Active Member
I'm majoring in physics and I'll tell you that I believe we landed on the moon. I can explain most of the things that the conspiracy theorists claim is evidence we never got there, but I have a much more simple point:

The USSR would not have allowed us to fake it. We were in cold war with them. A race of technology, economics, and philosophy was ensuing. If we didn't go to the moon the USSR would have been the first with pictures to prove it was a hoax and that the capitalist bastards were full of it.

:-)
 

hom36rown

Well-Known Member
yes it does,
have u ever calculated gravity before?
Solar System Simulator :-OG2
i made this little game earlier this year.

g is expressed in m.s^-2
any increase in g is the equivalent to a decrease in time. (so long as the proportions are the same)

u can alter the timer in the prog to double the speed
this has the same temporal effect as doubling the g

EXACTLY

do the math

if u can write a little computer game that simulates gravity where u
can increase or decrease the gravity and the speed,
then u will have proved your point.

otherwise just play the game and see for yourself
or any other gravity game

o

with 1970 tech and finance we can go to the moon every 2 months,
but in 2008 we can only go into orbit every year and a half?

not only has tech advanced amazingly in that time
computers are over a million times better, and
the worlds economy has doubled three times since then...

people would pay every spare billion they had to go to the moon.

Why does Russia allow space tourists but America not?
Are my billions not good enough for them or something?

Or do they have something to hide behid that zero gravity pen of theirs?

nice try no cigar, Bill.
I wathced the double spped tape and it does not look like he is on earth, he falls too slowly and is able to move to easily/jump to highly...keep in mind he is wearing a heavy ass space suit
 

Mojination

Active Member
yes it does,

with 1970 tech and finance we can go to the moon every 2 months,
but in 2008 we can only go into orbit every year and a half?

people would pay every spare billion they had to go to the moon.

Why does Russia allow space tourists but America not?
Are my billions not good enough for them or something?

Or do they have something to hide behid that zero gravity pen of theirs?

nice try no cigar, Bill.
We don't go as often now because there really isn't much benefit. NASA would rather spend the time, money, and research in the space station which produces some beneficial results. Recently the plan to go back was initiated to test out new technologies for landing and take off from a foreign surface, however, so we should see moon landings again in the future.

As for why Russia allows it and America does not: I suspect this has to do with our regulations. Commercial flight needs to meet safety and standard guidelines in America. I'm not sure about Russia at all, but I imagine they there laws allow it and American laws don't allow it because FUN is illegal in America... lol.

You would get like 90 times the usual dose of radiation by taking a trip into space. I guess that is probably why average Joe can't go into space.
 

PoseidonsNet

Well-Known Member
u r full of shit hom36grown,
firstly u deny the math,
then when u r proven WRONG,
you change your reasoning and just disclaim the evidence.

if the evidence was bad why did u deny the math?

u denied the math bcos u could see the video was at normal earth g
otherwise why deny the math?

if u could see the evidence as wrong then u would
have not had reason to deny the math

if the math was wrong then why discalim the evidence?

and seeing as tho u got the very very basic math wrong to begin with
your opinon counts for shit.

Mojination: the Russians always claimed that people on the moon was impossible,
if money were an issue then NASA would have NO problem with space tourists,

Who at NASA does not want more money?

If u really r majoring in Physics, so did I. The prof was a complete NAZI.

Do u believe that 1/6th gravity is the same effect as half speed?
 

SocataSmoker

Well-Known Member
we haven't killed any 'so called' "terrorists"
You're kidding me right? Abu Musab al-Zarqawi? Countless insurgents... all of whom most likely hated the US before the war... There's no way to dispute that we are indeed killing terrorists, but when risks come to benefits it's up for debate.
 

SocataSmoker

Well-Known Member
Do u believe that 1/6th gravity is the same effect as half speed?
Are you talking about this video?

YouTube - Jumping on the moon at double speed

Hope not, cause what it shows is true lunar gravity working, like the one comment said, look how fast his arm moves in the sped up version... too fast with such equipment which indeed would be true... We've orbited the moon, no on doubts that, why wouldn't we land there too, makes logical sense to me.... I'm not going to drive around the rim of the Grand Canyon and say wow it looks so beautiful, I'm going to get out of my car and walk and hike that fucker! So, in point I am in agreement with the other poster... I believe we went to the moon, just not perhaps when we said we did.
 
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hom36rown

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u r full of shit hom36grown,
firstly u deny the math,
then when u r proven WRONG,
you change your reasoning and just disclaim the evidence.

if the evidence was bad why did u deny the math?

u denied the math bcos u could see the video was at normal earth g
otherwise why deny the math?

if u could see the evidence as wrong then u would
have not had reason to deny the math

if the math was wrong then why discalim the evidence?

and seeing as tho u got the very very basic math wrong to begin with
your opinon counts for shit.

Mojination: the Russians always claimed that people on the moon was impossible,
if money were an issue then NASA would have NO problem with space tourists,

Who at NASA does not want more money?

If u really r majoring in Physics, so did I. The prof was a complete NAZI.

Do u believe that 1/6th gravity is the same effect as half speed?
I never denied anything, all I said is just because the earths gravity is 1/6 ours dos not mean footage of the moon played at 6x speed will look like gravity on earth, and that is true for very obvious reasons, for example the ease with which they would be able to move in such heavy space suits with 1/6 gravity...i didnt disput your math, thats why I checked the clip hence the second post of me saying that it doesnt appear like they on earth when it is played in doublespeed, how would he run that fast with such ease and be able to jump so high and come down so slowly cmon...your math has nothing to do with this, even the stupid documentary on fox or any of the people advocating the hoax claim dont advocate your ridiculous 1/2 =/= 1/6 theory
 

SocataSmoker

Well-Known Member
Ah so I guess he was talking about that video? Isn't he the same guy that says women are 2nd to men and should always be treated that way? Sorta lost all credit for him when he said that... barbarian.
 

PoseidonsNet

Well-Known Member
how would he run that fast with such ease and be able to jump so high and come down so slowly cmon
a valid q
for once

the jump is weird, not a 'giant stride'. Two vertical jumps on the same spot.
Very curious.

but two hops precisely in the same place are at a different speed of descent
to the rest of the clip. (strings attached)

y not leap?
how come none of them ever fell over in that strange environment? that itself is logically impossible

what are the makers of the vid saying then if they are not saying
that the video was a hoax? at the wrong speed?
they may not have added the numbers up, but the impication is obvious.

all your agruments r ad hominem. you're probably a bunch of shitfkrs.

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Actually i abonded 3d games as they are too repetitive. Doom version 7865 got boring.

Also the screen u watch with is in 2d, so any 3rd dimension will be compromised.

You can be more creative in 2d bcos the pcs resources arent being used up rendering all those 3d images.

Don't you ever get bored of shooting people in your Doom version 109832?

Grew out of 1st person shooters in the 90's.

LETS SEE YOUR 3D GAME THAT YOU MADE BIG MOUTH
can u even write the math 4 a basic app? build a website perhaps?
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By the way, i never said all women are subordinate. Just most women are irrational. Wheres u on the other hand r a pussy whipped feminist just dying to toady up to their assholes at my expense. But guess what? They may say otherwise, but they see u as subordinate bcos u do not take the role of male seriously. Thats bcos u only wnat to assfuck them faggotbreath.

If there is a fight do u expect the woman to be involved 'equally'?
That would make u a coward.
 

SocataSmoker

Well-Known Member
Wow... you're seriously one of the most uneducated people I've come across in some time... now for the roasting. :blsmoke:

1st... don't call me a shit fucker unless you want to fly to Louisiana and say it to me personally, fighting over the internet shows your a REAL man.

2nd... Take time to research anything? Or ya just too busy talking out of your gaping asshole? ie: YouTube - Charlie Duke on the moon

3rd... I'm a pilot, I have better things to do than design video games. And on the subject, I played Doom I as a kid... only program I use on the computer these days is a flight simulator, or perhaps some Day of Defeat when time allows, and it's historical... we don't run around with lasers blasting monsters :roll: Oh, and there's more to 3D games than first person shooters... Links 2008 anyone? FORE!!!!

4th... You're goddamn right I'd be pussy whooped. I don't know about you, but I love pussy... and I'd do whatever it takes to keep that pussy happy, I guess you're just used to not pleasing a woman since you see most as irrational. They see ME as subordinate? Don't think so... haven't met a girl yet that didn't see a fly boy like me and think "Wow, what a man!" I mean, what can I say... controlling the 850 shaft :hump: horsepower of a 2.1 million dollar aircraft definitely pulls some looks. Sorry if I'm gloating here, I'm just trying to make it clear how much of a better man I am than you. :mrgreen: Time ya wake up bud, and learn pussy does indeed rule the world. Most fellas might not admit that but hey... I'm an open guy.

Cheerio!

P.S. I don't think you'll find a single person who supports any of the views you hold here, we're past the dark ages..
 
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PoseidonsNet

Well-Known Member
don't call me a shit fucker
well if u're arguing for sodomy, then what else r u?
i thought you guys liked fucking shit? y r u offended by
the prospect of fucking shit suddenly?

plz enlighten me o wise soccata

2) you tube is hardly the essence of 'research'
and i have speant over two decades involved exclusively in study.

in south africa

which has the worst of the AIDS problem

in the disciplines of Psych and Phil

3) flight simulators r video games. for big boys like you.
because you were born into the priveledge of pilothood
does not you a philospher make.


i have plenty of support .. from the older crowd sonny,

so you DO believe that in a fight women are the equal of men?

perhaps u let your girl do the fightin' for ya?

'pussy rules the world'
it may rule the world of 'fly boys', but it does not rule AFRICA.

so you DO believe that in a fight women are the equal of men?
or do u have further illogical hypocracy to spew on us?

Ladies? Do you like cowardly men who let the women do the fighting?
 

SocataSmoker

Well-Known Member
1. Hmmm, because I stand up for the rights of others, we are all humans and are all free to do as we chose. I'm straight as they come buddy.

2. It is a VIDEO of an ASTRONAUT FALLING on the MOON... that's what you wanted, that's what you got... if I posted the google video link would you believe it more? Maybe if I copied it to DVD and sent it to you, would that make the video image more real? Also, I believe you to be under the age of 18 due to your highly immature choice of words, such as "faggotbreath"... so your claims of decades of study are taken with a grain of salt.

3. It's not a game, it has no objective. It is a simulator designed to simulate flight. Born into a privilege of pilothood? No buddy, I paid for it with hard earned cash...

4. Yes... women are the equal of man. I know plenty of women that can handle themselves quite well. What does this have to do with fighting though? If a woman wanted to fight me... what would I do? I'd walk away from it...

I'd never let a woman fight any of my battles... what does this have to do with what I said anyways? The day an African male bears a child is the day pussy doesn't rule Africa... until then, you will forever depend on them as will every other country.

Ladies, do you like men like Poseidon? Would be the better question.
 
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