I've ordered some and will be doing a grow diary when I get them, will just be a little closet growing autos maybe 2 plants but will let you all know that's for sure.@VegasWinner massive respect to you for your achievement and for your generosity of spirit in sharing all the information and running the CO-OP. Hopefully someone will do a full grow diary with these boards...a final nail in the coffin of your detractors
Keep doing what you're doing!!
ATB man.
3000k 90cri will help a lot with stretchGay if cobkit sees this i see he got amber clu48 1212. 22k or so. What u think it wood make plant do mire red right so than batter for bloom i figger if u got 4 cob light 2 of tham and to 35k eoog bee ok no
Fecken Excellent.The new boards 5000k channel 1 and 3000k channel 2 is completed and will be shipped from Shenzehn China on Tuesday expecting delivery by end of the week in the US. If anyone missed their opportunity, there can be another CO-OP if there is more interest. I will wait to hear from folks via DM or this thread. The new boards have solderless connectors, like all other boards now. Price has stabilized at the current cost of $60/200w board with solderless connectors
MacGyver would be proud.Fecken Excellent.
My 2 boards are chugging away at 100 watts each in a 32" x 32" x 60" tent.
The passive heatsink is running at around 33 Celsius and the platinum p300 heatsink with fans is at 28 degrees Celsius, measuring with an digital ir gun........ cool.
Tent was at 20 - 21oC so i rigged a 12v pc fan with 4" dia tube about 12" long at top of tent to suck heat at top and discharge it on plants at bottom.
Temps now 25 - 26oC.
Cmon now, he just started! lolWhere is the sphere testing. Where is the data to show what these are and how they perform?
But he feels that he and his boards are qulaified enogh to say this...Cmon now, he just started! lol
True. I am sure they are using meanwell drivers they know what everyone likes they sell to everyone. I would imagine they can use current bin cobs as they have direct wholesale access unlike us. They can underprice because they have deeper pockets not necessarily a cheaper product. I would assume the former. Drive prices down force everyone to lower prices until they can't afford it. Been done many times in business.
This was in response to Rahz asking him for some basic information and backing of his statement. All rahz did was ask if he was sure they were using top bins or any of the assumptions that Vegas is claiming.And not just claiming, but unfoundedly downing others.I believe I made the same statement, but you are welcome to take it out of context that is you. I believe I said what I said, not ASSUME. I believe it was they can under price you if they want with better products than they sell you for less money. This is a common activity in business it is called Walmarting. Business 101 study your competition not me. I do not sell lights. you are confused. Can you disprove that statement. NO. Is it inferior to what they sell you? probably not. lower bin, lower product WHY? they want to take over your business and sell direct. This is the tird or fourth time Alibaba has come here and you guys attack them.. Afraid of competition. We like competition lower prices. lower your pri8ces not attack me. Get an MBA and learn how to compete instead of complaining. it looks bad. Learn Chinese I do not know what to tell you, but DUCK, the Chinese are coming and they want their profits back. lol
Yeah I read it, he made similar comments in the QB thread about his boards being more efficient.........I also asked for data to back it up. It is what it is GG, either deal with it or put him on ignore; how many guys started their businesses out of here over the years? we all accepted it in time.But he feels that he and his boards are qulaified enogh to say this...
This was in response to Rahz asking him for some basic information and backing of his statement. All rahz did was ask if he was sure they were using top bins or any of the assumptions that Vegas is claiming.And not just claiming, but unfoundedly downing others.
So it's pretty simple. He can either put up the real information...or shut up.
Ignorance does not excuse poking bears. Still going to get mauled. Stick to his own little thread and he can perpetuate whatever he has concealed in his own head, backed or not.Yeah I read it, he made similar comments in the QB thread about his boards being more efficient.........I also asked for data to back it up. It is what it is GG, either deal with it or put him on ignore; how many guys started their businesses out of here over the years? we all accepted it in time.
more competition= better pricing for the growers........would I prefer everyone's gear be tested/validated? absolutely
I don't want to derail this thread, of course I agree that claims should be validated.............as I stated before in my thread I only recommend QBs until other board guys follow their testing. umol/j, ppf/w is what educated consumers want to see before purchase, simple, no BS.Ignorance does not excuse poking bears. Still going to get mauled. Stick to his own little thread and he can perpetuate whatever he has concealed in his own head, backed or not.
But step out into the real world...specially when making claim as he has...and attacking others who have proven their products and worth....Better have some valid and verifiable testing and documentation of those claims.
It's 2017...put it in a sphere or on a goniometer in working conditions.
Ohh ya, forgot...namaste
Didn't COBkits already demonstrate that four Citi 1212 of the previous generation equal a QB? Bang for buck wise it seems to make more sense to stick with COBs still then.as I stated before in my thread I only recommend QBs until other board guys follow their testing. umol/j, ppf/w is what educated consumers want to see before purchase, simple, no BS.that's it, peace
You promised to leave and not come back last time.I don't want to derail this thread, of course I agree that claims should be validated.............as I stated before in my thread I only recommend QBs until other board guys follow their testing. umol/j, ppf/w is what educated consumers want to see before purchase, simple, no BS.
that's it, peace
I was thinking more The A TeamMacGyver would be proud.
Well well well. the leader has shown his head. full of something just not sure what it is. Crying for attention again? you think this is HS. Go wipe your worm infested butt on someone else's thread. Go CRY somewhere else for attention. No one cares what you are growing lately, KID.Ignorance does not excuse poking bears. Still going to get mauled. Stick to his own little thread and he can perpetuate whatever he has concealed in his own head, backed or not.
But step out into the real world...specially when making claim as he has...and attacking others who have proven their products and worth....Better have some valid and verifiable testing and documentation of those claims.
It's 2017...put it in a sphere or on a goniometer in working conditions.
Ohh ya, forgot...namaste
All you just did was cry and throw a tantrum. Put it in a sphere to verify your claims. Like me or not, that is the reality. Take your personal feelings out of it and step up. Or not. Again...the ball is in your court and I suggest acting on it instead of crying and projecting your insecurities all over the internet.Well well well. the leader has shown his head. full of something just not sure what it is. Crying for attention again? you think this is HS. Go wipe your worm infested butt on someone else's thread. Go CRY somewhere else for attention. No one cares what you are growing lately, KID.
I was in the real world when you were still just a drop of sperm on your Dad's pecker. I build everything I want. When I want,and How I want. When I was younger than you, I was building Hot Rod's with Frank Nitty and Frank Polk on US 30 drag strip. I build custom Chopper motorcycles, anything I want and you are talking about real world. have a good day. go back to your little factory where you make your little heat lamps, and leave the science of lighting to the grown ups.
oh sorry. do you want to join the CO-OP with your buddy too? Rule is RESPECT, not namaste, and a CO-OP fee plus S&H. DM for specifics.
Add mind reader to your skills mate......I'm sure you knew what some of us were thinking when you commented.fucks sake