DIY with Quantum Boards
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Jonesfamily7715
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Yes and yes, you can replace the diodes individually even using just a higher temp soldering iron, and yes a row out on your board can force the other rows in that section to "overdrive" not usually a problem but can cause issues over time, like premature failure.
pop22
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My QB 304s have been running almost non stop for 8 years now!
Rocket Soul
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Those 561Cs have really good thermal handling, iirc their thermal coefficient is even lower than the 301Cs.
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Budzbuddha
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Yep - mine too. Had driver take a shit before those boards did. 304’s still working fine- no burned diodes.
ianc4990
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They were unsure of the cause. My drivers would only give about 120 watts per board at 100%, so idk how I would have over driven them. I did have issues with the boards doing this while dimmed, and now that I say that I may wire some boards to a driver with no dimmer and see if they stay the same.
I was able to just order some replacement boards (the last of their r spec and the remaining 3k non r spec) and they said they had no plans on restocking the qb288, and only other place I can find them is cobkits.com or something for 90 dollars a piece. So that sucks for all us qb288 users. Is there another board that uses 54v drivers?
ianc4990
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Mine are from when the r spec launched, so I think 2019, can't really complain too much. They've got tons of hours on them
FmSwayze
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Do you have any other LEDS in mind to replace with?
pop22
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part of HLG's problem, and actually the most of the horticultural light indistry, is that Samsung no longer is in the LED business! I believe production stopped a couple months ago. So HLG has to go to a new supplier, maybe Nichia. No more QB 288, no more Diablo boards... Glad I have a couple spares!
( I still have a couple QB 304 boards, new in the box! )
**** Was just on HLG site, they have refurbed QB288 for $29.00 and Diablos for $40.00!!
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Diode.Dude
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Too ridiculous a statement and easy to check to let slide here...
301b's thermal resistance is almost 2X as good as the 561c's. In each datasheet.
301b=7.5c/w
561c=12c/w
last time buys end of june 25, last deliveries dec 25
Cree has the one drop in for the odd 301 footprint. Otherwise is the time for everyone to move to quality 2835's. Flip chip 2835's are here already too.
Nizza
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damn
I need to save my money but it would be nice to get some backup boards
Rocket Soul
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Thanks for keeping me straight here, many of these datasheets i havent looked at for some time
Do you know any manufacturer making a replacement alternative for the lm301h evo? To the best of my memory the dropp in cree version is using a 450nm photon pump.
Diode.Dude
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Yep. No one rocking the 437nm die I know of. That is only the 301H evo. Rest of the 301's, B, B Evo, H are 450nm and where the market is for demand. Even in just hort, the evo never took even close to 50% share. Cost prohibitive mostly but still. Double the cost of a 301b/h.Thanks for keeping me straight here, many of these datasheets i havent looked at for some time
Do you know any manufacturer making a replacement alternative for the lm301h evo? To the best of my memory the dropp in cree version is using a 450nm photon pump.
For the specialty style horti white kind of stuff, Cree has their photophyll select, and have done some "mint" comparable blends with it.
Osram has their own "horti white" for whites and is similar in lacking red to pump white efficacy and let the high power 660's take the load on the other end of the SPD.
Pretty sure HLG is working with cree now as it pertains to the actual Quantum Boards.
pop22
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I hope HLG actually does a comparison study on available LEDs. HLG made some boards using Nichia LEDs, the QB 324 ( I still have a couple ) So it should be interesting to see what way they go. The biggest problem with Cree is their pricing.....
