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shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
I may have to modify the current Tek I am using a little bit..

I used 1500ml H2O and ~50g's Sodium Hydroxide.. if this pull doesn't come out how I would like I will be doubling the amount of NaOH (I am trying to modify the tek to make an easy step-by-step extraction anyone could do, so I will fix my errors so no one else has any).
 
shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
UPDATE:

I am definitely thinking about making this like a "Q & A" thread and making an actual Pictoral DMT Extraction thread (so this will be for comments, that will be for the tek).

I also have my first pull! It is a dark-yellow wax-like substance, I suppose I could call it a Total Alkaloid Extraction, it will be refined further into its crystalline form.

Pics to come soon :-)​
 
shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
The pull was rediculously low for the first pull (~34 milligrams), I will be bumping up the pH as to fix this on the second pull (to see if the Lazyman tek sucks or to see if the bark sucks.. crossing fingers on the tek being off).
 
shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
I just went ahead and added another 50 grams Sodium Hydroxide (25g's/container).

I have heard that the only problem with the Lazyman Tek is not having a high enough pH, so hopefully this will fix the low yield problem!

I will update the tek as to make it more accurate (this is my trial & error to solidify a tek that everyone can follow).

peace
 
ndangerspecimen101

ndangerspecimen101

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shepj said:
I just went ahead and added another 50 grams Sodium Hydroxide (25g's/container).

I have heard that the only problem with the Lazyman Tek is not having a high enough pH, so hopefully this will fix the low yield problem!

I will update the tek as to make it more accurate (this is my trial & error to solidify a tek that everyone can follow).

peace
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I love how you recalculate your steps... its just makes it that much more easier for us ;)

Hope its the PH and not your bark!
 
ANC

ANC

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I doubt it is too low pH as such, in fact just a few crumbs of lye would give you a pH of nearly 14, most of the recipes are overkill, but it works.

I think those plastic holders you use makes it hard to get a good mix going before seperation, its so much easier shakeing a bottle.
Also I have best results if I leave the bark tea for about 4 days before adding solvents.

I would generaly say use about 50g of lye per pint of water, and do no more than 50g of bark with that, less if you have the time.

Also I'm not a fan of the evap thing, allthough it is good to evap the last of your naphta after freeze percipts to maximise your yields, but otherwise it seems to collect lots of the other oils and stuff in the tea.
Now I certainly can enjoy just about any DMT, but nice fluffy white tasteless DMT is the king. No sore weezy chests etc, or the taste of death as you come too...

I do commend you for trying your own way though.
 
shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
Thanks ANC. For this tek I wanted a very basic setup that anyone could follow and get DMT (to try out and such).

I will more than likely be transferring both of them into a larger container (maybe a milkjug with a lid) so I can shake the ever living hell out of it.

I do not have access to a freezer that I could use this time around (otherwise I would have used it).

I really appreciate the feedback!
 
ANC

ANC

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not a problem, if the yellow stuff is too harsh you can always clean it up with heptane.
 
DiaMeTrik

DiaMeTrik

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I respectfully disagree, you need more lye!!! I put 90-100g in a pint of water to get a 13+ ph reading on the meter. Lye is your friend here, underbasification is the #1 reason for poor yields. Just do a sodium carbonate ( Arm&Hammer Wash Soda) wash when you are pulling the naptha. Plus dont use plastic containers, I mix mine in a gallon wine jug. I am almost finished with the extraction I am working on and it looks good! I do a lb at a time and get around 3 g. If you want more detailed instructions let me know, I luv DMT and the DMT luvs me back!!! Good Luck and Happy Travels!! Smoke More DMT!
 
floridasucks

floridasucks

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DiaMeTrik said:
I respectfully disagree, you need more lye!!! I put 90-100g in a pint of water to get a 13+ ph reading on the meter. Lye is your friend here, underbasification is the #1 reason for poor yields. Just do a sodium carbonate ( Arm&Hammer Wash Soda) wash when you are pulling the naptha. Plus dont use plastic containers, I mix mine in a gallon wine jug. I am almost finished with the extraction I am working on and it looks good! I do a lb at a time and get around 3 g. If you want more detailed instructions let me know, I luv DMT and the DMT luvs me back!!! Good Luck and Happy Travels!! Smoke More DMT!
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wow, sorry but 3 grams per pound is shitty.

try this maybe?... http://forums.mycotopia.net/botanicals-cactus-misc-entheogens-psychedelics/58086-whatchas-easy-mhrb-stb-extraction-step-step-pictorial.html

the last time i used that tek i got 9 grams from a pound without doing the wash at the end.
 
Syke1

Syke1

Active Member
DiaMeTrik said:
Plus dont use plastic containers,
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He is using milk jugs wich are HDPE , just fine for this type of process. IDK about the milk jug lids tho, they are prob LDPE which is not reccomended at all for stuf life solvents. just something to consider incase you decide to use the whole jug next time shepj. I allready did a google search to see if anyone makes HDPE milk jug lids but no luck. Maybe you could improvise.



ANC said:
I doubt it is too low pH as such, in fact just a few crumbs of lye would give you a pH of nearly 14, most of the recipes are overkill, but it works.

I think those plastic holders you use makes it hard to get a good mix going before seperation, its so much easier shakeing a bottle.
Also I have best results if I leave the bark tea for about 4 days before adding solvents.

I would generaly say use about 50g of lye per pint of water, and do no more than 50g of bark with that, less if you have the time.

Also I'm not a fan of the evap thing, allthough it is good to evap the last of your naphta after freeze percipts to maximise your yields, but otherwise it seems to collect lots of the other oils and stuff in the tea.
Now I certainly can enjoy just about any DMT, but nice fluffy white tasteless DMT is the king. No sore weezy chests etc, or the taste of death as you come too...

I do commend you for trying your own way though.
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Couldnt have said it better.



And shepj, my first pulls suck sometimes too. they get better around 2-4 and then taper off IME
 
shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
ANC said:
I doubt it is too low pH as such, in fact just a few crumbs of lye would give you a pH of nearly 14, most of the recipes are overkill, but it works.
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DiaMeTrik said:
Lye is your friend here, underbasification is the #1 reason for poor yields.
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This is why I used so much Sodium Hydroxide.

100 grams Sodium Hydroxide in 1.5 L H20 has a pH of 14.22.

ANC said:
not a problem, if the yellow stuff is too harsh you can always clean it up with heptane.
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Could I heat Naptha and then freeze precipitate? I have heard 70mL/Naptha per gram/DMT?

Syke1 said:
He is using milk jugs wich are HDPE , just fine for this type of process. IDK about the milk jug lids tho, they are prob LDPE which is not reccomended at all for stuf life solvents.
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I do not plan on needing the cap, I have it there for a preventive measure. I plan to add it to the milk jug as to increase the surface area the naptha touches (light shaking/spinning). Thanks for the info about the LDPE though, I will keep that in mind.

Syke1 said:
And shepj, my first pulls suck sometimes too. they get better around 2-4 and then taper off IME
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Thanks. Did you use the same amount of Naptha per pull?

UPDATE:

Transferred the two small containers into a 1 gallon (3.79 L) milk jug. As I am only using ~1.8 L of that, I am able to shake the hell out of it without anything touching the lid (for now, problem solved).

Recommendation:

Buy a HDPE container with a lid.
 
shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
I will more than likely have access to a decent freezer tonight..

will it be a problem that I have ~300ml Naptha?

EDIT:

I also have access to a hot plate that I can evaporate the naptha on as well.
 
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