Double in height BS?

whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Strain dependant.


I have seen 10 ft plus sativas. The best I have seen were 12-14. One in memorory was well over double my 6 ft body.

All of those put most their height during flower.

Grow a 16-20 week flowering sativa and see if it fits in a standard grow area.


The ones from memory were the very tall very bushy ones with loads of smaller bud.
 
Lambo...

Lambo...

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green_machine_two9er said:
Since switching organic soil I've seen minimum double and much more for my sativa Dom strains. Can post pics in anyone wants. Very healthy roots I believe will contribute to awesome growth. Among all other environmental factors being spot on.
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So just let me get this right as I am about to grow a small number of Haze which are a Sativa. When you put them in flower they double in size during the first 3 weeks of flower? I do believe its possible but I want to hear a few opinions on how big a Sativa will potentially carry on growing into flower. I grew one outdoors in the mid 80's (1986 to be exact) and it became unmanageable growing up and above my parents garden fence!
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Lambo... said:
So just let me get this right as I am about to grow a small number of Haze which are a Sativa. When you put them in flower they double in size during the first 3 weeks of flower? I do believe its possible but I want to hear a few opinions on how big a Sativa will potentially carry on growing into flower. I grew one outdoors in the mid 80's (1986 to be exact) and it became unmanageable growing up and above my parents garden fence!
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There's your answer.

You will have to train it or top it.

I smiled at your post. That biggest plant from memory was a random seed from a bag flipped into a pile of horse manure and sawdust compost. We were shittin bricks thinking someone would see it.
 
panhead

panhead

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I grow high % indica strains in a sea of green style grow & i count on my plants trippling in size , sometimes four times the size & i get no stretch or extended length between nodes .

I start off with well rooted clones that range from 6 inches to 8 inches high & have a bare minimum of 6 nodes & zero side branching , i go straight from 24 hr light in the clone area to 12/12 hps in the flower room , the 600 watt air cooled lights at 2 ft from canopy for 3 days to harden the plants then lights lowered to within 2 inches from the clones .

After 7 to 8 weeks the 8 inch clones end up looking like little 24 to 36 inch xmas trees with no bare spots where the nodes didn't connect.

Ive never had any grow or strain not atleast double in height & ive been growing off & on over 40 years so i dont know whats up on your end .
 
RM3

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The more dark time you give em in veg the less they stretch

I'm runnin a Gaslight veg and I flipped 5 clones 3 weeks ago, they have thumb size buds and have "stretched" 4 inches in those 3 weeks
 
lawlrus

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Did anybody ever figure out what the autistic kid that started this thread was talking about?
 
bravedave

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lawlrus said:
Have you made any other incredible discoveries since you found out that everybody was in on the big lie about stretch? Man, we really got you good!
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Funny that as a Mensa member your ability to comprehend someone else's desire for answers is rather stunted. I suggest maybe you re-read the entire thread though and maybe you will be able to differentiate between those in the Newbie section who are trying to help and the dickheads who have no business there in spite of their imagined knowledge.
 
lawlrus

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bravedave said:
Funny that as a Mensa member your ability to comprehend someone else's desire for answers is rather stunted. I suggest maybe you re-read the entire thread though and maybe you will be able to differentiate between those in the Newbie section who are trying to help and the dickheads who have no business there in spite of their imagined knowledge.
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Can you link me to some of the posts in this thread that corroborate the statement in the first post you made in this thread?
 
bravedave

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lawlrus said:
Can you link me to some of the posts in this thread that corroborate the statement in the first post you made in this thread?
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See thread title...note question mark? See last sentence of my first post and maybe your genious will figure out that while I was stating what had been my experience, I was looking for the experience of others to set me straight. That said, many posts including your first as well as BIGGASS420 validated what was my experience with indicas. Just that most others did not turn to ridicule and dick waving.
 
gunnar&carey

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Wow ppl can get pretty negative huh lol id say its all on how u grow and where ur lights are cuz my indica dom white rhino stretches about half an inch every night! While another indica im.growing hasnt moved passed 19 inch in three days and im in flower with a hps light so id say it has alot to do with environment and how far away the ligjt source is but thats just me
 
Liddle

Liddle

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Id say that the worry and caution of 2x during flower is when working with a new strain. Better too have extra space then to have burning nuggets on the light. =). But once you get too know your strain you'll know what it does and can adjust your grow accordingly. =)
 
greasemonkeymann

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panhead said:
I grow high % indica strains in a sea of green style grow & i count on my plants trippling in size , sometimes four times the size & i get no stretch or extended length between nodes .

I start off with well rooted clones that range from 6 inches to 8 inches high & have a bare minimum of 6 nodes & zero side branching , i go straight from 24 hr light in the clone area to 12/12 hps in the flower room , the 600 watt air cooled lights at 2 ft from canopy for 3 days to harden the plants then lights lowered to within 2 inches from the clones .

After 7 to 8 weeks the 8 inch clones end up looking like little 24 to 36 inch xmas trees with no bare spots where the nodes didn't connect.

Ive never had any grow or strain not atleast double in height & ive been growing off & on over 40 years so i dont know whats up on your end .
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a fellow sativa lover!, if you are looking for a nice fruity visual smoke,Try the Kali, (not the kali mist) its from CBD seeds, its a really good smoke, and for a sativa its not too stretchy. just don't vege her more than 2 feet, or buy a ladder... I somewhat neglected mine and it still got me some nice smoke, I can't wait to take care of her and see what she does.
i'm actually lst'ing my new one, to see if I can tame that girl a lil.
course its an offspring of the kali so it's a totally unknown strain, I have no idea who the father was, i'm hoping it was the purple paralysis herm that I grew last autumn.
 
greasemonkeymann

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ttystikk said:
I've had many similar conversations with some well researched folks and the consensus has been twice to three times the red spectrum wattage as blue.

Ideal Kelvin values seem to be around 2700k for the red end, 6500k for blue.

According to @RM3 this apparently works even better for T5 then it does for HID lighting, which includes both HPS and MH lamps.
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very true, I think for me, my best harvests were a 2/1 ratio of HPS to MH, and it worked well with the MH in the middle with overlapping light coverage.
40 square feet with 1800 watts. Best grow ever. The end product was phenomenal, the strains I had at the time were jack herer, blue dream, critical plus, and the grapegod.
The jack herer's glands literally visually swelled under the MH, that strain responded the best to it, the blue dream loved it as well, my theory is sativa prominent strains respond better to the MH than indica doms, just a theory though...
 
ttystikk

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panhead said:
I grow high % indica strains in a sea of green style grow & i count on my plants trippling in size , sometimes four times the size & i get no stretch or extended length between nodes .

I start off with well rooted clones that range from 6 inches to 8 inches high & have a bare minimum of 6 nodes & zero side branching , i go straight from 24 hr light in the clone area to 12/12 hps in the flower room , the 600 watt air cooled lights at 2 ft from canopy for 3 days to harden the plants then lights lowered to within 2 inches from the clones .

After 7 to 8 weeks the 8 inch clones end up looking like little 24 to 36 inch xmas trees with no bare spots where the nodes didn't connect.

Ive never had any grow or strain not atleast double in height & ive been growing off & on over 40 years so i dont know whats up on your end .
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So you run how many square feet of grow space per air cooled 600W if you're running them at TWO INCHES above the canopy?

I'm not disbelieving, I want details.
 
Lambo...

Lambo...

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ttystikk said:
So you run how many square feet of grow space per air cooled 600W if you're running them at TWO INCHES above the canopy?

I'm not disbelieving, I want details.
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I couldn't possibly run my light that close as i'd lose the spread I need for the large floor space. I did a 14 plant NFT last year with a scrog net and the skinny little hybrids all performed well enough with 2 - 3 coming off each, buds were tight and smelly (not unlike an old bird from my youth called 'Marjory Leek' and by fuck she had a reet stinky little fanny, everyone in class knew when you'd been fingering her) and those 2 lamps were blazing very close to the wire as in 4 -5 inches towards the last 4 weeks of flower. My current little bundle of Cheese in flower are 15 inch off and not stretching under 4 x 600's...
 
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