Dr Greenthumbs G13

bajafox · Apr 16, 2011

ghettoxginger said:
I dont get the problem with him charging what ever he wants. An ounce of good weed goes for far more then 100$. If your getting more then an ounce per seed your saving money either way. The best part is noone is going to put a gun to your head and force you to buy anything, Seeds are purchased by people that dont want to waste there money giving it to some dealer. You spend 200$ on 2 seeds and make at least a pound of high quality smoke and you still do better then you wouldve on the street. quitchabitchin

You are completely missing the whole point. He's claiming to be selling something that just isn't. If you went to a car dealership and thought you bought a Lexus but then realized it was only a Toyota, would you be saying "it's ok, it's still a nice car and reliable...."

Most likely not. This has nothing to do with yield or quality of smoke, it has everything to do with finding out the truth.

bajafox · Apr 16, 2011

stonedmetalhead1 said:
The whole point of an auto is that it's not photo-period sensitive hence the name "auto" as in it automatically flowers regardless of the photo-period while relying on age to start the flowering process.

I guess some people just don't understand the basic description of what an "auto" strain is supposed to do...

stonedmetalhead1 · Apr 16, 2011

bajafox said:
I guess some people just don't understand the basic description of what an "auto" strain is supposed to do...

No, I think they do. They're just using politics and lies to promote their hero. Just like a republican will say one thing and the democrat will say the opposite and the truth gets lost. It's what Greenthumb solely relies on for his marketing strategy and while he'll never win everyone over he knows there are gullible people all over the place that will believe his bs.

WoodyHaze · Apr 17, 2011

stonedmetalhead1 said:
No, I think they do. They're just using politics and lies to promote their hero. Just like a republican will say one thing and the democrat will say the opposite and the truth gets lost. It's what Greenthumb solely relies on for his marketing strategy and while he'll never win everyone over he knows there are gullible people all over the place that will believe his bs.

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SCARHOLE · Apr 17, 2011

Originally Posted by stonedmetalhead1
The whole point of an auto is that it's not photo-period sensitive hence the name "auto" as in it automatically flowers regardless of the photo-period while relying on age to start the flowering process.

It dosent autmaticly flower, it does this on age. (chronoTropism?)
Regular plants dont automaticly flower, they do this on age and hrs of light. (photoTropism?)

From what I just read there is cannabis Sativa, Indica, an Rasta.
"Auto" isnt a sub species of anything.

I can flower Iranian autos along side vegging plants in my cab. (18/6)
Or watchem flower outside in spring. An harvest in july.

Dr Greenthumb named it an auto for this reason.
And Ill bet it doubled his sales of this strain.

He openly states there is no ruderallis in it, an when asked if its an auto he says its "short season".

PS-
Uless you personaly monitored the g13 for 30years an made sure it was NEVER altered from its discovery ,threw Nevels hands, to jim orgtega hands and into Dr Greenthumbs garden.

There is no way we can EVER have "Proof" that it (or ANY seed you can buy) is the real McCoy or a fake.

lol

WoodyHaze · Apr 17, 2011

SCARHOLE said:
Originally Posted by stonedmetalhead1
The whole point of an auto is that it's not photo-period sensitive hence the name "auto" as in it automatically flowers regardless of the photo-period while relying on age to start the flowering process.

Id dosent autmaticly flower, it does this on age. (chronoTropism?)
Regular plants dont automaticly flower, they do this on age and hrs of light. (photoTropism?)

From what I just read there is cannabis Sativa, Indica, an Rasta.
"Auto" isnt a sub species of anything.

I can flower Iranian autos along side vegging plants in my cab. (18/6)
Or watchem flower outside in spring. An harvest in july.

Dr Greenthumb named it an auto for this reason.
And Ill bet it doubled his sales of this strain.

He openly states there is no ruderallis in it, an when asked if its an auto he says its "short season".

PS-
Uless you personaly monitored the g13 for 30years an made sure it was NEVER altered from its discovery ,threw Nevels hands, to jim orgtega hands and into Dr Greenthumbs garden.

There is no way we can EVER have "Proof" that its the real McCoy or a fake.

lol

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SCARHOLE · Apr 17, 2011

You have to take the breeders word for it.

When I asked DrGT about the g13 being DDs in an email an posted it here.
He said it was DDs cut, as Jim Ortega requested to not be credited.

"Well technically that's true, it is not double D's cut per se, it's Neville's cut since Neville gave it to Double D. -
This sentience probably is true

Double D is KNOWN to have saved the pure G13 from extinction by holding it all these years.
This sentience probably is true

Saying it is The Double D cut is a way to show it's pedigree but again technically, it is Neville's G13 IF you can even say that because it was given to Neville by a guy from California...so is it Neville's G13 or the guy from California?
This sentence probably is true

To me, the important thing is to identify the pedigree and it came from Double D. Period.
This is were he covers for Jim Ortega.
Kinda...

This sentence could be true if Jim Ortega/Dogless has traded/bought the G13 clones from DD at ThcFarmer or someone there sold it to Him.
Remember DD said he thought it was a member of his site (THC farmer) who sold it to DRGT after he announced that he Never sold cuts of G13.

It does have the pedigree, but he didnt purchase it from DD.

Some of these guys at are laughable if they weren't such pests..."
This sentence is probably true

But I just take the Breeders word that there seeds are real.

stonedmetalhead1 · Apr 17, 2011

SCARHOLE said:
You have to take the breeders word for it.

When I asked DrGT about the g13 being DDs in an email an posted it here.
He said it was DDs cut, as Jim Ortega requested to not be credited.

"Well technically that's true, it is not double D's cut per se, it's Neville's cut since Neville gave it to Double D. -
This sentience probably is true

Double D is KNOWN to have saved the pure G13 from extinction by holding it all these years.
This sentience probably is true

Saying it is The Double D cut is a way to show it's pedigree but again technically, it is Neville's G13 IF you can even say that because it was given to Neville by a guy from California...so is it Neville's G13 or the guy from California?
This sentence probably is true

To me, the important thing is to identify the pedigree and it came from Double D. Period.
This is were he covers for Jim Ortega.
Kinda...

This sentence could be true if Jim Ortega/Dogless has traded/bought the G13 clones from DD at ThcFarmer or someone there sold it to Him.
Remember DD said he thought it was a member of his site (THC farmer) who sold it to DRGT after he announced that he Never sold cuts of G13.

It does have the pedigree, but he didnt purchase it from DD.

Some of these guys at are laughable if they weren't such pests..."
This sentence is probably true

But I just take the Breeders word that there seeds are real.

Of course you do. Why would you bother to research the facts and understand that they are just trying to make a buck? I guess you're one of those ignorance is bliss type of guys.

This sentence could be true if Jim Ortega/Dogless has traded/bought the G13 clones from DD at ThcFarmer or someone there sold it to Him.
Remember DD said he thought it was a member of his site (THC farmer) who sold it to DRGT after he announced that he Never sold cuts of G13.

It does have the pedigree, but he didnt purchase it from DD.

We've already been over this do you want me to show you the post again where Greenthumb says he got it directly from DD and now you're trying to say that Dogless got the clone from DD when he already stated he got the clone directly from Nevil, supposedly.

hobart · Apr 17, 2011

I dont care who grew it or what genetics it is, no seed is worth 100 a pop. period.
I think too many people rely way too much on these banks and breeders. breed your own, learn some botany & horticulture if need be but jeebus stop wasting your money like that. you gotta remember this is a weed and the silly strain hunters and breeders mostly started out with bagseed and went from there,. they only hunt the world because you all have given them the means to do so by buying their shit. fuck them and their silly "businesses". and dont get me started on the n00b-ish names given to pot. IT'S FUCKING POT. get over it (to the silly self important breeders). It's not brain surgery, taking a male from one strain and letting it pollinate a female from another. sooo haard OoOOoo and if you yourself cannot do this too maybe you (whomever you are) should jump off a building so the rest of us can use your abodes to grow in. Also believe nothing that you hear/read and half of what you see.....

Timmahh · Apr 17, 2011

again per the other 15 threads, the Referance of "DD" has nothing to do with the person DD. the guy (Ortega i think) that got Docs cut to him, just NAMED That perticular Cut as DD for his OWN RECORDS, it has NOTHING and had and still has nothing to do with the forum charecter called Double D, also known as "DD". you are all confusing a lableing of a cut of G13 labled DD, and a refferance to it having something to do with the forum monikur known as DD or Double D.

THEY ARE NOT THE SAME 2 DDs. simple confusion gathered by someone ASSUMING the lable DD, was a refferance to the person DD. Which it was not. Simple to understand if you READ the cronilogical sequence of events.

with al that said, i still have not been able to confirm if this or ANY G13 is the REAL DEAL. but if it is, and Dr Greenthumbs seeds are real G13, bread back to be nearly pure, then im interested in 3 seeds (not 2) for 200.00. but only if i can confirm is gene is real.

stonedmetalhead1 · Apr 17, 2011

Timmahh said:
again per the other 15 threads, the Referance of "DD" has nothing to do with the person DD. the guy (Ortega i think) that got Docs cut to him, just NAMED That perticular Cut as DD for his OWN RECORDS, it has NOTHING and had and still has nothing to do with the forum charecter called Double D, also known as "DD". you are all confusing a lableing of a cut of G13 labled DD, and a refferance to it having something to do with the forum monikur known as DD or Double D.

THEY ARE NOT THE SAME 2 DDs. simple confusion gathered by someone ASSUMING the lable DD, was a refferance to the person DD. Which it was not. Simple to understand if you READ the cronilogical sequence of events.

with al that said, i still have not been able to confirm if this or ANY G13 is the REAL DEAL. but if it is, and Dr Greenthumbs seeds are real G13, bread back to be nearly pure, then im interested in 3 seeds (not 2) for 200.00. but only if i can confirm is gene is real.

That explanation is hilarious.

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I would not lie to you. Double D can say whatever he wants, the cut came from him at GREAT expence to us. He himself said it was G13 and he himself has done some amazing huge grows of it which is why we referred to it as Double D's G13. If it is not G13 then he lied but whatever it is, we wanted those huge yields for our customers and I have few doubts it is genuine G13 and he is pissed because we're cutting into his $25,000 a clone business.

I love the first sentence in his post since he tried to change his story and is obviously lying.

Angry Pollock · Apr 17, 2011

hobart said:
I dont care who grew it or what genetics it is, no seed is worth 100 a pop. period.
I think too many people rely way too much on these banks and breeders. breed your own, learn some botany & horticulture if need be but jeebus stop wasting your money like that. you gotta remember this is a weed and the silly strain hunters and breeders mostly started out with bagseed and went from there,. they only hunt the world because you all have given them the means to do so by buying their shit. fuck them and their silly "businesses". and dont get me started on the n00b-ish names given to pot. IT'S FUCKING POT. get over it (to the silly self important breeders). It's not brain surgery, taking a male from one strain and letting it pollinate a female from another. sooo haard OoOOoo and if you yourself cannot do this too maybe you (whomever you are) should jump off a building so the rest of us can use your abodes to grow in. Also believe nothing that you hear/read and half of what you see.....

YUP. i'll just go out in my backyard and get some seeds, i am sure they are just as good as any. :wall:

SCARHOLE · Apr 17, 2011

stonedmetalhead1 said:
Of course you do. Why would you bother to research the facts and understand that they are just trying to make a buck? I guess you're one of those ignorance is bliss type of guys.

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I quess I am.
I dont demand Proof that a seed is Legt, I buy em an grow em.
I dont call them thiefs even if I think are not 100% honnest.
Would you demand that Serious seeds realy Bread AK47, or prooof that its the Origional AK47?
Or that Nevels haze is legit, I can find many examples of trolls , calling breeders liars because they want proof of Legitimacy witch will never come.
This is disgusting Behavoir, an drives breeders from the public eye an these forums.
I dont see breeders as thiefs an lairs,they are all human an all lie. I can accept this an still think there seeds are legit.
I thank of em like Buisnesmen/Rockstars. I would treat em with respect for fighing the good fight an sharing/selling there work with me. But take it with a grian of salt.

Wish you guys had grown up growing bagseeds, because Breeders wouldnt sent to the USA as many of us did.
You would be alittle more thankfull an less suspicious.
This is an amazing time. We can buy there kind seeds.....

"again per the other 15 threads, the Referance of "DD" has nothing to do with the person DD. the guy (Ortega i think) that got Docs cut to him, just NAMED That perticular Cut as DD for his OWN RECORDS, it has NOTHING and had and still has nothing to do with the forum charecter called Double D, also known as "DD". you are all confusing a lableing of a cut of G13 labled DD, and a refferance to it having something to do with the forum monikur known as DD or Double D.

THEY ARE NOT THE SAME 2 DDs. simple confusion gathered by someone ASSUMING the lable DD, was a refferance to the person DD. Which it was not. Simple to understand if you READ the cronilogical sequence of events.

with al that said, i still have not been able to confirm if this or ANY G13 is the REAL DEAL. but if it is, and Dr Greenthumbs seeds are real G13, bread back to be nearly pure, then im interested in 3 seeds (not 2) for 200.00. but only if i can confirm is gene is real."

I know thats there story, but I bet they were using DDs name in vein.
And Not because greenthumb a compulsive liar
It was So they could not mention Jim Ortega in the deal, as he requested.

Ps
I dont mind growing Unpopular Breeders seeds,Ive done Nirvana I am growing DrGreenthumbs. GreenHouse seeds is next...
And Ill probaly be defending em aginst folk who have to attack them becase the internet told them to.

stonedmetalhead1 · Apr 17, 2011

SCARHOLE said:
I dont demand Proof that a seed is Legt, I buy em an grow em.

Really, then why have you been chimming in this whole time trying to legitimaze his G13.

I dont call them thiefs even if I think are not 100% honnest.

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No one called him a theif, just a liar.

Would you demand that Serious seeds realy Bread AK47, or prooof that its the Origional AK47?

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Or that Nevels haze is legit, I can find many examples of trolls , calling breeders liars because they want proof of Legitimacy witch will never come.

There is this little thing called history and if you have been around and have been paying attention you would know these things and wouldn't need to prove them because they are already proven.

This is disgusting Behavoir, an drives breeders from the public eye an these forums.

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The only ones it drives away are the ones who have something to hide.

I dont see breeders as thiefs an lairs,they are all human an all lie. I can accept this an still think there seeds are legit.

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There is a big difference from you accepting a lie and it being a truth.

Wish you guys had grown up growing bagseeds, because Breeders wouldnt sent to the USA as many of us did.

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You would be alittle more thankfull an less suspicious.
This is an amazing time. We can buy there kind seeds.....

You do realize that most dutch genetics are based of genetics that were obtained in America don't you including most of Mr. Nice's gear and breeding staples like Skunk, Haze, and Northern Lights? Americans were on the forefront of obtaing special genetics from all over the world.

THEY ARE NOT THE SAME 2 DDs. simple confusion gathered by someone ASSUMING the lable DD, was a refferance to the person DD. Which it was not. Simple to understand if you READ the cronilogical sequence of events.

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lol, read the post at the top of the page. There was no confusion, Greenthumb stated he personally talked to and had transactions directly with DD many times. This mix up due to labeling is BS and is just a way to try and get Greenthumb off the hook after he blatantly lied.

Brick Top · Apr 17, 2011

SCARHOLE said:
I thank of em like Buisnesmen/Rockstars.

That is why so many worthless pollen chuckers are getting rich. Because people elevate them to a businessman/Rockstar image strictly for WHAT they do and NOT dependent on how good they actually are at what they do. They are seen as Bud Buddhas, Ganja Gods and heroes, rather than the zeroes many actually are.

SCARHOLE · Apr 17, 2011

stonedmetalhead1 said:
Really, then why have you been chimming in this whole time trying to legitimaze his G13.

I have said it before an ill say it again, I dont believe any one is selling the real G13 from the University of Misisippi.
Or if they are its been changed alot.
But I do believe that Orgeta has what Nevel believes to be the real G13.

[/QUOTE]No one called him a theif, just a liar. [/QUOTE]

If hes using lies to aquire money that would make it a type of Theft.

[/QUOTE]There is this little thing called history and if you have been around and have been paying attention you would know these things and wouldn't need to prove them because they are already proven. [/QUOTE]

I read hisory, but I have no forensic tangable proof that the history of weed is as I have read it is true.
I have to take there word for it.
Because I wasnt there.

[/QUOTE]The only ones it drives away are the ones who have something to hide. [/QUOTE]

Or the ones that hate having to debate with folks constantly about the legitimacy of there seeds.......

[/QUOTE]There is a big difference from you excepting a lie and it being a truth. [/QUOTE]

I kind of expect a lies...
but hope for the truth.
They will never be able to "prove" to me that there seed stock is as they claim.

[/QUOTE]You do realize that most dutch genetics are based of genetics that were obtained in America don't you including most of Mr. Nice's gear and breeding staples like Skunk, Haze, and Northern Lights?

Americans were on the forefront of obtaing special genetics from all over the world.. [/QUOTE]

Yep I remember learing that in the 80s an it BLEW MY MIND.
Many of the popular Dutch seeds are all american.
But once agian there is no proof , I accepted it on faith.

SCARHOLE · Apr 17, 2011

Brick Top said:
That is why so many worthless pollen chuckers are getting rich. Because people elevate them to a businessman/Rockstar image strictly for WHAT they do and NOT dependent on how good they actually are at what they do. They are seen as Bud Buddhas, Ganja Gods and heroes, rather than the zeroes many actually are.

I do not expect 100% honesty from rockstars or Breeders.
They arent Preachers. lol
But do I expect DANK!
And if they dont deliver it, Ill be makeing a thread to inform the masses on my experience/Opinions.
Without calling anyone a Liar.

Brick Top · Apr 17, 2011

Originally Posted by Brick Top
That is why so many worthless pollen chuckers are getting rich. Because people elevate them to a businessman/Rockstar image strictly for WHAT they do and NOT dependent on how good they actually are at what they do. They are seen as Bud Buddhas, Ganja Gods and heroes, rather than the zeroes many actually are.

SCARHOLE said:
I do not expect 100% honesty from rockstars or Breeders.

No, you just go on; "faith." Well, when you have different; "businessmen/rockstars" saying conflicting things how do you personally decided which to place your faith in? The one that is your preferred supplier of strains?

Shantibaba and Neville say the stuff no longer exists in it's pure form. First according to Doc it allegedly came from DD, but it didn't, but then it was claimed that was said just to keep Ortega's part in this secret, and how in some roundabout way it came from Neville either directly or indirectly, it's difficult to say which since the Doc's story keep changing. But Neville has said it did not come from him directly or indirectly or in any roundabout way.

In who do you place your; "faith" and trust, and why? Why would that particular; "businessman/rockstar" deserve to be seen as being any more honest than the rest? A flip of a coin? The response from a Magic 8-Ball maybe? Of because someone likes the genetics of one of those involved over that of the others so they are ever so generously granted the benefit of the doubt? The meaning of the idiom; "benefit of the doubt" is a favorable judgment granted in absence of full evidence.

So with so many conflicting statements being made by the various; "businessmen/rockstars," who involved actually deserves it and the decision to grant it to them is based on precisely what?

SCARHOLE · Apr 17, 2011

I usually buy em based on- Breeders descriptions, Smoke reports, recommendations from others, desired flavor, flower time, price, #of years the company has been around ect....

Unless I have grown that companys strain before its a total leap of faith.

Last order I mainly went with different skunks, an Bubblegum crosses, an some WW crosses.
Various breeders, single seeds from attitude. Some cheep some more expensive.
The main determining factor was dank short plants , with short flower times.
Oh an feminized, I got no room for males in my lil cab.

Heres what I ordered last.
Lemon skunk -GHS
Bubba Kush -GHS
Ceres skunk
Green bud -CH9
Cheese -Budda
Prure AK-Female Seed co
WhiteWiddow X BigBud -FSC
Bubble gummer -FSC
Widowrella (widow x c99)-FSC
Skunk#1-White label
Red Cherry Berry -Barneys Farm
Orange Bud -Dutch passion
Power Skunk Cannabia
BlueBerry Gum-G13
Pineapple Exp-G13 x2
Osiris (ak)-Pyarmid
Tutenkamen (ww x ak)-pyarmid
Anestesia -Pyramid

punkenstien · Apr 17, 2011

Brick Top said:
But Neville has said it did not come from him directly or indirectly or in any roundabout way.

Should have known Shit Top would rear his ugly head on this thread. Hey Shit Top, do your research before opening your shithole! Nevil has indeed verified that Ortega has the strain via p.m.'s to Kanga at Mr. Nice forums. So stfu and go back in your hole biaaaatch!!!!!!!!

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