Drooping plant

S.Zombie

Member
Hey,

I have x5 autos growing and this one has been my most vigorous and healthy plant until today.

Medium is Biobizz Light Mix and using Biobizz products at the recommended nutrient schedule... Grow, Bloom, Top Max, Heaven, Acti-Vera + CalMag (Using 50% RO water and 50% Bottled)

• When I checked the plants this morning, all are doing well bar the one in the picture.. It was drooping.
• I checked the soil with a moisture meter and it showed as being dry, therefore I assumed it was thirsty (last watering/feed was Wednesday 19th @ 1250ml) and today 1250ml water.
• PH is 6.5
It is the only plant out of 5 affected

Watered the plant around 11am this morning and was expecting to see it looking healthier when I got home. I've been out until a short while ago and it looks as miserable as it did this morning.

Strain is OGesus Auto..

What else could I try to identify as the cause?


Many thanks in advance.

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S.Zombie

Member
Pot was light this morning and reading dry on the meter..
Did not get run-off this morning after 1250ml, Biobizz mentions that you do not need to water to run-off.
They are in 11L plastic pots,, lots of drainage holes.

I was wondering about overwatered too but none of the others look like this and it has happened 3 days after it's last watering.
 

Missouri Green

Active Member
how big is the pot? watering on Wednesday then again on Sat. and not even to run off? thats a long long time and you're asking for trouble unless you're dead on with those nutes... and i bet you aren't.
going with dry and too much salts built up.

or its too wet or you've got root rot or bugs... oh i see 11 liter pots.. thats 2.5 gal. tiny little pot and not enough water ... then you gave it 1.2 l water? nah... get some run off, water more often.
 

S.Zombie

Member
Last watering gave some run-off and PH 6.5..
I'm weary of overwatering, the plant is on day 36. You think I should be watering more often than 3 days with more than 1250ml ?
 

Missouri Green

Active Member
IDK ... i think you could water to runoff daily and be fine... every other day i would think is minimum. seems pretty clearly underwatered... not over. as you stated yourself the pot was dry and light....
 

S.Zombie

Member
Thanks for the help all. the plant was back to 'more or less' normal this morning..
I had no idea they would need so much water at this stage.., I notice the moisture is reading as moist already, down from wet yesterday after watering.

Just a quick question regarding humidity.. Should it be lower than 50% at this stage?
Plants have just started week 6

Cheers ;)
 

Jamie0715

Well-Known Member
how many weeks in total does she go untill finito? week 6 i would be more in the 60-65% at the highest
 

Missouri Green

Active Member
you can have that humidity up high until your buds start getting bigger. humidity is a secondary concern to me... who knows if your meter is even close to calibrated... i get that it will be sucking up more water at lower humidity and higher temps.

i was just going to say.. F your moisture meter.... thats just another avenue of failure.. don't nobody need a moisture meter.
no offense. we just have diferent styles of growing... i like the dryest possible medium (hydroton)over a reseviour on a cycle timer that runs 3 min on 1hr57 min off... this style can be set up to be watered once every day or two by hand but i will need more coco in the perlite hydroton mix... but i like to be able to correct mistakes at all times and know when i go to check my reseviour what my roots are seeing... no guessing no waiting. i wanna change the ph up or down i do it... i can monitor the res concentration as well and see if the plant wants more or less concentration...
the water and wait is too much for me.. or too little not sure which. anyhow if you water too much your plants will droop just like when it wasn't watered enough
id water heavy with tuns of run off and then watch them and try and find the happy place where the leaves lift towards the sky. IMO if this is mostly coco in your biobizz then they should be watered daily with about 500ml to 1l nutrient solution... . i know the plant in avatar took about 1/2 gal a day or about 2 liters for 20% run off every day in at least 5-8galons so you're probably 1/2-1/4 that.
you really shouldn't be able to over water this stuff watering once a day.. but don't bet your life on it... any leaf drooping will tell you that you are overwatering, then that will quickly become root rot.. you don't want that for sure. just water a little more i guess, i feel like im confusing you, things seem mostly fine in your garden! looks pretty good, carry on
 

S.Zombie

Member
This plant bounced back pretty well, albeit looking a little under the weather again today.

I'm wondering about watering scheduling now, perhaps someone can shine a little light on it for me.

I watered on Saturday 22nd to run-off with 2L of water per plant.
• PH is very close to 6.5 in all pots (11L plastic)
• Biobizz light mix and their nutrients
• Temp roughly 23c +- 1c or 2c
• Humidity between 46% - 50%

Where I am stumped right now is that the pots are still quiet heavy (they only lost around 500g since Saturday) and still feel damp.
When I use a moisture meter, they read the top end of moist -> wet
500g = 500ml of water

Do I need to water these now (as it's been 5 days) or wait until they dry more?
Perhaps I put too much water in @ 2L? I read somewhere on biobizz nutrients that you don't need to water to run-off.
Should I flush them?
First time grower and struggling a bit with what to do with them at the minute.

Thanks again.

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ALPHA.GanjaGuy

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You do not need to water till runoff with biobizz. I would guess your soil may be hydrophobic, follow what herb&suds suggests as far as soaking them.. I attached pictures of the biobizz schedule in light mix for you to checkout. Biobizz mentions "It is always better to be modest than to add more. A plant will not die from too little nutrients, but it won’t survive an overdose"..

out of the 2l how much runoff are you left with? could be they were not quite getting as much as you think
 

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S.Zombie

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You do not need to water till runoff with biobizz. I would guess your soil may be hydrophobic, follow what herb&suds suggests as far as soaking them.. I attached pictures of the biobizz schedule in light mix for you to checkout. Biobizz mentions "It is always better to be modest than to add more. A plant will not die from too little nutrients, but it won’t survive an overdose"..

out of the 2l how much runoff are you left with? could be they were not quite getting as much as you think
Thanks for the post.

Out of the 2L I'm left with about 100ml runoff per plant.. give or take. The big one in the back left didn't run off after over 2L today.
 
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