DWC Bubbleponics with top feed 6 plant!

cannawizard

Well-Known Member
**try an instant premade compost tea, just add it straight in since its a bubbleponics :).. try some gh subcultureB/M also... just trying to help not sell anything, ..those roots just need some love TLC~ ..got a ucDWC going w/ just straight compost tea... so far so good.

..goodluck
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Yea bro idk man for now on either make ur own bennies with hiesenbergs tea or buy some great white or something.
I've never had root rot so Can't speak on this from my own behalf but I have seen a lot of peeps say that subcomplex m and b gets rid of root rot.
Supposedly its a miracle fix idk tho. Peace and luck
the only shure thing Ive ever found that works is heisenbergs tea! I used to preach h202 and bleach not anymore:)
and trust me Ive tryed all the stuff out there what a waist of money!!
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
I believe there able to be saved! but there harvest time is set back for shure just get the tea going asap
 

mastiffkush

Well-Known Member
your ppms are high bro 1600:( I dont go over 1100 more so I like 1000ppms.

I would stop using h202 and start brewing a benny tea IL post a link to it good stuff bro!
I got a few things to ask, whats the water temp? PH?

also I see theres drip drip stakes how often you running it?https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/361430-dwc-root-slime-cure-aka.html


Res temp=77, i know its warm..re freezing water bottles now.
pH=5.9

The H202 was a emergency plan, i will not use anymore..i just needed something to subside for the time being. I will start the Tea ASAP.

Drip was running ON 30 min every 2HR @ slow trickle. For the time being i turned the drip off until i can revive the smaller ones, its not necessary for now.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Res temp=77, i know its warm..re freezing water bottles now.
pH=5.9

The H202 was a emergency plan, i will not use anymore..i just needed something to subside for the time being. I will start the Tea ASAP.

Drip was running ON 30 min every 2HR @ slow trickle. For the time being i turned the drip off until i can revive the smaller ones, its not necessary for now.
it takes 48hr to brew the tea and it take 48hr for all h202 to be disapated from you water! dont add tea with h202 in the water.
I think you might be running the drip system to much and to long
 

mastiffkush

Well-Known Member
it takes 48hr to brew the tea and it take 48hr for all h202 to be disapated from you water! dont add tea with h202 in the water.
I think you might be running the drip system to much and to long
I had everything down to a science before i started having root problems, i dont need the drip anymore...i like the results from the beginning to help inhibit the tap root find water source and flourish.
 

collective gardener

Well-Known Member
OK, bro. You already know this, but your roots look like hell. You MUST cool down the water. Too warm of water is the #1 cause of root rot in DWC systems. I have ran numerous very large RDWC systems with 65F water and have never had a problem. Beofre getting a chiller, I fought rot all the time. I have never been able to save a crop once the roots look like that and the plants starts to wilt. You can try getting a chiller, like yesterday, and adding a buttload of Sensizyme to break down the dead root matter. I'm sorry, brother. I wish I had the magic cure.
 

dizzy42

Member
i agree temps r key with hydro but i would use the h tea an delay harvest a week er so just my 2 cents i hate to see time wasted its better to get sum then none but ive seen the htea work 4 hellrazer so im a belever just havent got the doe yet see 4 my self bt eyes dnt lie btw nice grow man love your porn how do i give you rep im new man so let me know n you got itman! oh come an see my mess i got going if u got the time! dnt know how to put link so maybe u can help me there to
 

mastiffkush

Well-Known Member
OK, bro. You already know this, but your roots look like hell. You MUST cool down the water. Too warm of water is the #1 cause of root rot in DWC systems. I have ran numerous very large RDWC systems with 65F water and have never had a problem. Beofre getting a chiller, I fought rot all the time. I have never been able to save a crop once the roots look like that and the plants starts to wilt. You can try getting a chiller, like yesterday, and adding a buttload of Sensizyme to break down the dead root matter. I'm sorry, brother. I wish I had the magic cure.
I believe that combination of dead roots from when i removed one of the plant sites and from the res change two days ago, the water i added was not cold enough...My temps got way out of whack and that kickstarted the onset of the root rot.

I just finished cleaning, sanitizing the res again...30 gals, not fun. I made sure that my water was as cold as possible, tap water. I didnt pH the water because tomorrow im going to have to drive out the the hydro store and pick up some Sensizym. I have never had issues with root rot before, when using the ZYM do i have to flush again? Im debating on adding nutes back to the res again, i have 2-3 weeks left to go... and i dont want to flush 30 gals again before harvest, all that water starts to add up.

Is there an alternative nutrient that i can use like a finishing bloom that i wont have to flush with? I have been using FLORANOVA BLOOM and KOOLBLOOM. I was thinking about using GRAVITY, as my buds a a little airy and i would like to try to compact them some.

Thanks for all the input!
 

mastiffkush

Well-Known Member
Update... went out and purchased some H202 and some Orca, suggestions from the hydro shop. I lowered my res temps down to 68 and added a new airstone, im still flushing with H202 and Orca. My roots are starting to clear up a little bit but have started to slime some, they are turning more white but slimy...The leaves haven't started showing any signs of apathy as of yet. Im on day 2 of fresh water, tomorrow i will drain rinse and refill, any inputs?
 

mastiffkush

Well-Known Member
After H202 and Orca:

They still look quite brown, but better than before...i still don't believe that they have gotten much better...I am really starting to dislike this large DWC, im going to stick with small DWC buckets. Any inputs? Should i add more H202, i have been doing 3mL per gal =60mL (29% H202) with 15 mL of Orca total.






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Buddy232

Active Member
Sorry to thread jack but this stuff looks neat and it's nice to see and active thread. I've seen some of you fellas other threads so I think I can get a nice collabritive input from knowledgeable guys.

Has anyone seen or run a multi-bucket bubble/dwc/hybrid system? I guess if you read my idea you'll get what I mean.

With what I personally know how to do with vessels, pumps and water... I envision a bottom in, top out system. The water is constantly flowing through each and an air source is bubbling the water in each individual bucket like a witches cauldron. I can show you guys how it would all work without spending your arm and leg on bulk head fittings and 50 fish tank aerators. :)

Is there a system like this that somebody runs? I'd love to read up on it. Does my idea sound like it would work (as far as growing plants). I'm not sure what type of system it would be classified as, a hybrid I guess? I've got no hydroponic knowledge so that doesn't help. I'm planning on developing some conceptual DIY vegetable garden for next year because from the few people I've spoken to no one runs multi-vessel bottom in, top out systems. I'm not sure if my way is just the way I know - or if people just haven't thought of it yet.

Once again sorry for the thread jack.

If you've got curious bones in your body or an inquisitive mind, feel free to reply or PM me. I'm subbing to this, not just for my post but to learn about hydro in general.

Bud
 

VoidObject

DWC/Bubbleponics Mod
Sorry to thread jack but this stuff looks neat and it's nice to see and active thread. I've seen some of you fellas other threads so I think I can get a nice collabritive input from knowledgeable guys.

Has anyone seen or run a multi-bucket bubble/dwc/hybrid system? I guess if you read my idea you'll get what I mean.

With what I personally know how to do with vessels, pumps and water... I envision a bottom in, top out system. The water is constantly flowing through each and an air source is bubbling the water in each individual bucket like a witches cauldron. I can show you guys how it would all work without spending your arm and leg on bulk head fittings and 50 fish tank aerators. :)

Is there a system like this that somebody runs? I'd love to read up on it. Does my idea sound like it would work (as far as growing plants). I'm not sure what type of system it would be classified as, a hybrid I guess? I've got no hydroponic knowledge so that doesn't help. I'm planning on developing some conceptual DIY vegetable garden for next year because from the few people I've spoken to no one runs multi-vessel bottom in, top out systems. I'm not sure if my way is just the way I know - or if people just haven't thought of it yet.

Once again sorry for the thread jack.

If you've got curious bones in your body or an inquisitive mind, feel free to reply or PM me. I'm subbing to this, not just for my post but to learn about hydro in general.

Bud
I think you mean RDWC?
 

Buddy232

Active Member
Thanks for the reply Void!!! Like I said in the post though, I have no hydroponic knowledge at all so I'm not sure what RDWC means or the goals of it. In fact, I'm on my first (soil) grow right now as is. (It's going really well actually, knock on wood.)

All I know is how to make pumped water go up through buckets and then out. (Bottom in, top out.. I know your not dumb - just clarifying.) Then I know how to aerate the heck out of it. The knowledge is from building Koi pond filters. The water goes, through the media which cleans it and then back out to the pond. Once or twice a month though you close the return valve to the pond and open a waste valve instead. Then you turn on the air - connected to an air manifold at the bottom of the vessel and boom your clean.

I don't see why you can't grow plants with this design if you remove all the filtration media and left the air on all the time. It sounds like what those little aeroponic machines do, but this would be on a large scale. Wiser to use 55 gallon barrels (not filled all the way) and you just link up as many as you want. It would just take math to figure out how much water your going to have and what size pump you'll need. Inline pond pumps are designed to run 24/7 unlike say pool pumps. My old man runs a 3000 gph pump and it adds less than $30 a month, and he's really bad at math.. I bet it's more like $20 or less.

Not sure if this whole super bubbling constantly circulation thing would work. The mechanics does I know and it's so simple to build you guys would laugh.

Would it grow good plants compared to just doing things normally? Thats what I don't know.

We can chat on PM Void. I will come up with some sketches to show you as well as some of the other parts to the system if you'd like.
 
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