Dwc costs

2nd year in growing and about to do a run of dwc with just one 40 dollar pump with 6 lines. I just moved into a new house and my finances are tight atm. Is this pump running 247 gonna kill my electric bill. Should i stick to coco for now until i have more money? Let me know guys. I dont want me gf bitchin at me.
 

Beehive

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Its not the electricity. It's the fertilizer that runs the big money.

I run coco. I buy the GH 3 part by the gallon. Cali-magic, gallon also.

So sit down and do the math. Go through your feed program and add up the amount of fert you'll need for the entire grow. You don't want to wake up one morning and find out you're almost out of bloom and what's left won't last the amount time to have more shipped to you.

Plan it out to the last drop.
 

xtsho

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Its not the electricity. It's the fertilizer that runs the big money.

I run coco. I buy the GH 3 part by the gallon. Cali-magic, gallon also.

So sit down and do the math. Go through your feed program and add up the amount of fert you'll need for the entire grow. You don't want to wake up one morning and find out you're almost out of bloom and what's left won't last the amount time to have more shipped to you.

Plan it out to the last drop.
Fertilizer only costs a bunch of money if you choose. You can grow weed with inexpensive fertilizers and end up with the same results as you can get with the expensive bottled nutrients and a bunch of additives. Even in coco I can get through an entire grow for under $10 in nutrients. In soil it's even less.
 

Beehive

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Fertilizer only costs a bunch of money if you choose. You can grow weed with inexpensive fertilizers and end up with the same results as you can get with the expensive bottled nutrients and a bunch of additives. Even in coco I can get through an entire grow for under $10 in nutrients. In soil it's even less.
That's not my experience. You get what you pay for. A 3part system that the company spent millions to develop.

Sure, I could pour some $5 Alaskan fish to it. Miracle grow. But I'm set in my ways and the expectations of a standard of performance I want from a fertilizer.

GH rules.
 

xtsho

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That's not my experience. You get what you pay for. A 3part system that the company spent millions to develop.

Sure, I could pour some $5 Alaskan fish to it. Miracle grow. But I'm set in my ways and the expectations of a standard of performance I want from a fertilizer.

GH rules.
I use the same stuff they dilute with water and put in a bottle. It just comes in dry form and I mix it with water myself. The ingredients come from the same fertilizer factories. I'm just not paying for bottles, labels, marketing, etc... Mine comes in a bag inside a simple plain box. Same stuff in those bottles of GH. I've used GH 3 part and it was no better than what I have been using. One of the reasons I switched was because of cost. I found that there was no added benefit to paying more for the same chemical salts.
 

Beehive

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I use the same stuff they dilute with water and put in a bottle. It just comes in dry form and I mix it with water myself. The ingredients come from the same fertilizer factories. I'm just not paying for bottles, labels, marketing, etc... Mine comes in a bag inside a simple plain box. Same stuff in those bottles of GH. I've used GH 3 part and it was no better than what I have been using. One of the reasons I switched was because of cost. I found that there was no added benefit to paying more for the same chemical salts.

How much did you pay for a pound of fert salt? What's the NPK ratio? Who distributes it?

I have no problem with dry fert salts as long as the NPK ratio is on par and its pure.
 

PJ Diaz

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How much did you pay for a pound of fert salt? What's the NPK ratio? Who distributes it?

I have no problem with dry fert salts as long as the NPK ratio is on par and its pure.
Its not the electricity. It's the fertilizer that runs the big money.

I run coco. I buy the GH 3 part by the gallon. Cali-magic, gallon also.

So sit down and do the math. Go through your feed program and add up the amount of fert you'll need for the entire grow. You don't want to wake up one morning and find out you're almost out of bloom and what's left won't last the amount time to have more shipped to you.

Plan it out to the last drop.
Yep you should do the math (from Greenleaf Nutrients site)..

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PJ Diaz

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I only grow weed 5 months out the year. $250 running cost is ok for stuff that'll sell $15-$20 a gram. What's a pound run? $2500?

I'm aware that each jar I grow has a value of about $400 a jar.

GH rules.
So you suggested that someone do the math, but you don't really care what the math says? OK guy. GH is fine, but no better than Jacks 321.
 

xtsho

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I only grow weed 5 months out the year. $250 running cost is ok for stuff that'll sell $15-$20 a gram. What's a pound run? $2500?

I'm aware that each jar I grow has a value of about $400 each.

GH rules.
Not where I live.
 
Its not the electricity. It's the fertilizer that runs the big money.

I run coco. I buy the GH 3 part by the gallon. Cali-magic, gallon also.

So sit down and do the math. Go through your feed program and add up the amount of fert you'll need for the entire grow. You don't want to wake up one morning and find out you're almost out of bloom and what's left won't last the amount time to have more shipped to you.

Plan it out to the last drop.
Not worried about nutes. I barely use any
 

PJ Diaz

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I only grow weed 5 months out the year. $250 running cost is ok for stuff that'll sell $15-$20 a gram. What's a pound run? $2500?

I'm aware that each jar I grow has a value of about $400 each.

GH rules.
As Biden would say, "Here's the deal", you can spend $100 on GH Floura Trio (or Lucas formula) to make less than 1000 gallons of nutes, or you can spend $100 on Jacks 321, and make close to 4000 gallons of nutes.

You seem to understand value, so explain why you like to spend 4x as much on your liquid nutes vs dry.
 
Fertilizer only costs a bunch of money if you choose. You can grow weed with inexpensive fertilizers and end up with the same results as you can get with the expensive bottled nutrients and a bunch of additives. Even in coco I can get through an entire grow for under $10 in nutrients. In soil it's even less.
wow, what line are you running for under 10 bucks a grow?
 

xtsho

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wow, what line are you running for under 10 bucks a grow?
A local product from the hydro shop down the street. It's similar to Jack's. A micronutrient blend, calcium nitrate, and MKP. But I'm about out and I don't plan on purchasing any more as I'm transitioning over to organic super soil growing and just water only. I'm currently 4 weeks into flower using nothing but plain water.

But this is what I've been using for years.

 

PJ Diaz

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wow, what line are you running for under 10 bucks a grow?
Du

Prolly makes his own powder nutes
Of course that's going to depend on the grow size, but for me in flowering I use around half a gallon of feed per plant in a 4 sq/ft (2'x2') space, per day. If you have 4 plants in a 4x4 tent, that's 2-gallons of feed a day. If we do as @Beehive suggested, and do the math, we can figure out how much it costs to feed a 4x4 tent during a full flowering cycle. As previously noted, you can make close to 4000 gallons of Jacks 321 for $100, so that would be $0.025/gallon, but let's round up and call it three cents a gallon. If you are feeding 2 gals a day, that means it costs you six cents a day for nutes. Let's assume a 70-day flowering cycle, with no flush; that would be $4.20 (convenient number) per grow per 4x4 space. Of course that doesn't account for the veg cycle, or any additional supplements that you might want to add, but you get the idea.
 
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