Economists thrilled at latest Obama jobs report

How many of these jobs were part time and how many were full time? How many jobs are we really adding here?




If you correct that for population you actually only gained 1,000 jobs overall.



The biggest single employer? The US Government which hired an additional 26,000 tax leeches. Which offsets the 26,000 that found jobs making things. Only jobs which make things will bring actual wealth into the USA.

If the situation is so great why does the Fed still print up hundreds of Billions of dollars to give to wall street and banks?

UncleBuck said:

yeah, lots of baby boomers retiring nowadays. so naturally the participation rate is lower.

funny how you didn;t think jobs reports were propaganda when they weren't showing such positive indicators.

was the polling data from 2012 also propaganda? is iran's coastline propaganda?

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So Obama made all these jobs, but the US is about to officially fall back into recession?!

Thanks Obama!!

Obama is just a Southern, white supremeist racist wannabe like Bill Clinton who hates Womens Rights and vaginas. Right Uncle IUD?

Sorry I had to just fast forward through all this bullshit ...Its like truly being a INDEPENDANT ...ROFLMFAO.......First DESERT IDK kno ya but why you rocking the carl icahn? IM closer to him then ya will ever be......WHY DOES ANYBODY CARE ABOUT THE JOBS REPORTS? UNLESS YOU ARE A TRADER? Its like reaganomics damn....I mean are we all serious here? Its like thinking were free no matter what party is in control?? The AVERAGE american is mind warped and bites into whatever CNBC or MSNBC or the local news tell you and whatever they tell you is prepayed for by either party......Damn obama cant do anything because of republicans to judge is administration based on more then that is simply unfair... and you republicans ya better be bringing in more then 150,000 a year or you cannot afford to be one....And just a little FYI the republican party will hang you out to dry just like Ted Cruze you tea party bastards....LMFAO....I am so glad all i do besides grow pot is trade stocks and futures and FORCE people like ICAHN to pay my bills because Im smart enough too.....My last thing im going to say is why is it always about race.the......What they need to do is put two racists white and black in the same foxhole and let your lives depend on one another....maybe when a few bullets go over your head and ya see that hodgie doesnt care what color you are he just wants you dead you will view each other differently .....what a shame half this Bullshit is I just read....This is the kinda shit you fight for huh?

NoDrama said:

How many of these jobs were part time and how many were full time? How many jobs are we really adding here?

If you correct that for population you actually only gained 1,000 jobs overall.

The biggest single employer? The US Government which hired an additional 26,000 tax leeches. Which offsets the 26,000 that found jobs making things. Only jobs which make things will bring actual wealth into the USA.

If the situation is so great why does the Fed still print up hundreds of Billions of dollars to give to wall street and banks?

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Looks like a inverse head and shoulders pattern to me? LMAO

Harrekin said:

So Obama made all these jobs, but the US is about to officially fall back into recession?!

Thanks Obama!!

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Recession is part of a natural economic cycle look it up if you dont believe me and use it to better yourself

WHODAT@THADOR said:

Looks like a inverse head and shoulders pattern to me? LMAO

Recession is part of a natural economic cycle look it up if you dont believe me and use it to better yourself

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The Fed is the cause of these long recessions though, otherwise they would be short lived and the rot would be gone, as is, the rot is here to stay.

NoDrama said:

The Fed is the cause of these long recessions though, otherwise they would be short lived and the rot would be gone, as is, the rot is here to stay.

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there is no historical data to back that up at all.

Recessions are more of the excuse to take all the money the wealthy have donated to the gov. back ...and leave the middle class holding the bucket.....The average american kno's nothing about stocks or has a wrong preconceived notion that they do....(high school teachers,parents so on) help feed these opinions.....One of my favorite things they say on CNBC is you cant time the markets?Yes you can they just cant ....Leonardo de pisa Fibonacci says so......and so does every real trader....what enough people believe will come to be its called crowd psychology if we all want S&p500 at 1200.00 it will be ....Its a greater fool theory that takes place and the greater fools are us with our 401k's and mutual funds..money markets all that

UncleBuck said:

there is no historical data to back that up at all.

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Historically the deeper the recession the sharper the rebound.

Historically we have Japan's lost decade during constant monetary manipulation like we are doing as a comparison.

ginwilly said:

Historically the deeper the recession the sharper the rebound.

Historically we have Japan's lost decade during constant monetary manipulation like we are doing as a comparison.[/QUO

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I agree BTW ...But there is always monetary stimulous nowadays to bail out nations by the central banks......and the banks take there money back eventually ...Recession Maybe? What does everybody think is going to happen when tapering is over?

ginwilly said:

Historically the deeper the recession the sharper the rebound.

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i'm gonna be waiting forever for a citation that will never appear from you, like usual.

WHODAT@THADOR said:

I agree BTW ...But there is always monetary stimulous nowadays to bail out nations by the central banks......and the banks take there money back eventually ...Recession Maybe? What does everybody think is going to happen when tapering is over?

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I don't even want to guess. The market is so much psychology, the major players have a tendency to fulfill there own prophecies by their actions. If they think the dollar will strengthen, they'll take positions in the market that will make it happen.

So far the big boys like the QE so the tapering may have the opposite effect.

I won't hazard a guess, I'm just going to do my best to follow the money and pick up some crumbs.

UncleBuck said:

i'm gonna be waiting forever for a citation that will never appear from you, like usual.

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No, I quit trying with you. You'll either not read it or go off on some name calling tirade and attack some straw man that's in your head.

Besides, what you've shown in economic discussions is a hard partisan slant and a naive cluelessness that borders on "special".

I don't mind if you stay willfully misinformed, that's on you.

ginwilly said:

No, I quit trying with you. You'll either not read it or go off on some name calling tirade and attack some straw man that's in your head.

Besides, what you've shown in economic discussions is a hard partisan slant and a naive cluelessness that borders on "special".

I don't mind if you stay willfully misinformed, that's on you.

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in other words, no citation from the guy who is well to the right of bill o'reilly.

thought so.

ginwilly said:

I don't even want to guess. The market is so much psychology, the major players have a tendency to fulfill there own prophecies by their actions. If they think the dollar will strengthen, they'll take positions in the market that will make it happen.

So far the big boys like the QE so the tapering may have the opposite effect.

I won't hazard a guess, I'm just going to do my best to follow the money and pick up some crumbs.

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Suely ya kno it will only continue as long as interest rates remain below 3% It will be the next "EXCUSE" for a buying oppurtunity all the way up to it ..

UncleBuck said:

in other words, no citation from the guy who is well to the right of bill o'reilly.

thought so.

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Wait, so when I said the deeper the recession the sharper the recovery you need citation because you think that's not true?

You think Japan's lost decade is a figment of my imagination?

No, I'll just pat you on the head, and smile at "he's so cute when he talks Econ" and discuss with the adults.

Btw, if I thought you were asking because you actually wanted to learn I'd post some pretty graphs for.

ginwilly said:

I don't even want to guess. The market is so much psychology, the major players have a tendency to fulfill there own prophecies by their actions. If they think the dollar will strengthen, they'll take positions in the market that will make it happen.

So far the big boys like the QE so the tapering may have the opposite effect.

I won't hazard a guess, I'm just going to do my best to follow the money and pick up some crumbs.

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Do you trade on a regular basis Gin? I kno some peeps that will turn those crumbs into croutons!!!LMAO

WHODAT@THADOR said:

Do you trade on a regular basis Gin? I kno some peeps that will turn those crumbs into croutons!!!LMAO

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It's a fairly new hobby to me. I'm three months in on forex trading but far far far from an expert. I can read charts, identify trends and follow the pack, that's about it.

I can see me retiring early and doing this full time. Price action trading is way simpler than I ever imagined. I can't predict, I just follow those that do.

It's a blast really.

ginwilly said:

It's a fairly new hobby to me. I'm three months in on forex trading but far far far from an expert. I can read charts, identify trends and follow the pack, that's about it.

I can see me retiring early and doing this full time. Price action trading is way simpler than I ever imagined. I can't predict, I just follow those that do.

It's a blast really.

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