Ed Snowden... Hero or Villain? A poll.

Ed Snowden is a ...

  • Hero

    Votes: 25 92.6%
  • Traitorous Villain

    Votes: 2 7.4%

  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .

Skuxx

Well-Known Member
Can't vote because I don't think he's either option to me. I've fried my brain too much to partake in anything political :eyesmoke:
 

tyler.durden

Well-Known Member
I just finished watching Citizenfour, one of the best documentaries I've ever seen. It was so intense, suspenseful and outrageous that I had to remind myself that this was not a work of fiction. It shows the entire genesis of Snowden first contacting the reporters, and the initial interviews in that Hong Kong hotel. The film also shows how the NSA is working worldwide with foreign governments to spy on all of their citizens, as well, and how we have NSA bases in countries all over the globe (something I did not know). It isn't just the US gov't catching flack from this exposure, but many other countries governments for participating, as well. I recommend this film to everyone, people who don't feel that he was responsible in his thought process in what he did, or that he's not a conscientious guy, will probably feel differently after viewing it. Best flick I've seen this year, that and Nightcrawler...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4044364/?ref_=nv_sr_1
 
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Magic Mike

Well-Known Member
Snowden shows John Oliver how the NSA can see your dick pics
by Steve Dent | @stevetdent | 6 hrs ago



56




In a surprise interview with Edward Snowden, John Oliver made NSA spying revelationsmore relatable to the American public through the topic of dick pics. The HBO comedian, who gives his satire a sharp bite via exhaustive research, traveled to Moscow for a sit-down with the infamous whistle-blower. Oliver wasn't joking around at first when he called a Snowden leak that put Al Quaeda intelligence at risk "a fuck up." He added that "you have to own that... you're giving documents with information you know could be harmful." After an awkward pause, Snowden said "in journalism, we have to accept that some mistakes will be made."




The tone lightened up after that, however. Oliver had proved earlier that many Americans don't care about NSA spying via several man-on-the-street interviews, with many folks confusing Snowden for Wikileaks founder Julian Assange. However, once he framed it in terms of private photos, the same people were outraged. One actually said, "if the government was looking at a picture of (my husband's) penis, I definitely feel it would be an invasion of my privacy." Oliver told Snowden, "this is the most visible line in the sand for people: can they see my dick?" From there, he went through NSA programs like PRISM and asked Snowden to "explain to me its capabilities in regards to (a) photograph of my penis."

I guess I never thought about putting it in the context of your junk.

Snowden's answers were hilarious and horrifying at once. He described how the NSA can see your private photos, even if they're sent domestically. Citing PRISM and Google's Gmail, for instance, he said that "when your junk was passed by Gmail (to a foreign server), the NSA caught a copy of that." In the end, however, it was Oliver who gave a Journalism 101 lesson in making complicated things easy to grasp. Snowden said, "I guess I never thought about putting (the NSA leaks) in the context of your junk."
 

kinetic

Well-Known Member
And still yet there are plenty of ways to be subversive within the existing construct. I'm quite sure many a member have conducted actions from within the shadows of big brother with success. Apathy however is one of the greatest enemies to human kind.
 

SPLFreak808

Well-Known Member
he literally exposed one of the amendment's being violated in trade for his high paying job and country. I always get mixed feelings about this. He was actually my neighbor when his house got raided. 5 houses away. Kunia, oahu
 

BarnBuster

Virtually Unknown Member
“In no sense do I advocate evading or defying the law, as would the rabid segregationist. That would lead to anarchy. One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly, and with a willingness to accept the penalty. I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law….We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was "legal"

Martin Luther King 16 April 1963 Birmingham
 

The Outdoorsman

Well-Known Member
Last night John Oliver did an entertaining interview w Ed Snowden. I would link it if I could from wheeree I am now. But I recommend it. Worth the time.
Snowden shows John Oliver how the NSA can see your dick pics
by Steve Dent | @stevetdent | 6 hrs ago



56




In a surprise interview with Edward Snowden, John Oliver made NSA spying revelationsmore relatable to the American public through the topic of dick pics. The HBO comedian, who gives his satire a sharp bite via exhaustive research, traveled to Moscow for a sit-down with the infamous whistle-blower. Oliver wasn't joking around at first when he called a Snowden leak that put Al Quaeda intelligence at risk "a fuck up." He added that "you have to own that... you're giving documents with information you know could be harmful." After an awkward pause, Snowden said "in journalism, we have to accept that some mistakes will be made."




The tone lightened up after that, however. Oliver had proved earlier that many Americans don't care about NSA spying via several man-on-the-street interviews, with many folks confusing Snowden for Wikileaks founder Julian Assange. However, once he framed it in terms of private photos, the same people were outraged. One actually said, "if the government was looking at a picture of (my husband's) penis, I definitely feel it would be an invasion of my privacy." Oliver told Snowden, "this is the most visible line in the sand for people: can they see my dick?" From there, he went through NSA programs like PRISM and asked Snowden to "explain to me its capabilities in regards to (a) photograph of my penis."

I guess I never thought about putting it in the context of your junk.

Snowden's answers were hilarious and horrifying at once. He described how the NSA can see your private photos, even if they're sent domestically. Citing PRISM and Google's Gmail, for instance, he said that "when your junk was passed by Gmail (to a foreign server), the NSA caught a copy of that." In the end, however, it was Oliver who gave a Journalism 101 lesson in making complicated things easy to grasp. Snowden said, "I guess I never thought about putting (the NSA leaks) in the context of your junk."
Starts about 13:38 for those who haven't seen it.
 
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