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matatan

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At least the best I can with such a small setup. Although I think I should have put just 2 plants under there instead of 4 (2 in ea. grow bag). I got a feeling my ladies are gonna pop that net full of Budz, I hope! :mrgreen:

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looks good sir should work well. i would say maybe making the screen bigger a bit to allow more tops to grow may b better but if your using cfls it just might be the perfect setup. love to see how that turns out, you got a thread going?
woah, yea just 2 would of been better imo
 

dapio

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Could I get an opinion on the setup I should go with on my future scrog project, here are some pictures of the little 2x2x2 PVC structure I have built I just cannot seem to settle on a option as to how many plants I should grow under this screen I was thinking just vegging up one clone in a 5 gallon smart pot would be cheap and applicable to the project but then I wonder if I will spend a far greater time in veg then I should just getting the plant to the screen as I plan to LST to give myself a easier time working with the screen when the time is right.

On the other hand I was also thinking about 4 plants in 3 gallon pots with the idea that there will be less of time spent in vegetation because of the fact that I wont have to worry about spreading one plant from the middle outward instead training four plants from the outside in. Just looking for some other opinions on the matter I never like starting something without a little insight from fellow growers.

Also is it okay to veg with the screen over the plants from day one or is it best to grow the plants without the screen at first and then after about two weeks or apply the screen it just seems that it would cause the light to be pretty far in veg and it just seems logical to keep the screen out of the equation until a bit of maturity is established.
 

woodsmantoker

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Nice, glad to see this train is still rolling on strong. Thanks to everyone who has contributed, looking forward to seeing you all at page 200!
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woodsmantoker

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dapio: Single plants per scrog. Start your clones prior to switching to flower, train the clones while the scrog is blooming, clones should be ready to screen once the originals are finished etc....
 

dapio

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dapio: Single plants per scrog. Start your clones prior to switching to flower, train the clones while the scrog is blooming, clones should be ready to screen once the originals are finished etc....
Therefore I would be running perpetual correct woodsman I have a 250 sitting in my basement and have just taken to a lazy route of starting veg in my closet then flowering I am sure if I put a bit of effort into trying to go perpetual I definitely could but the only thing holding me back is that for some reason I cannot see the improved efficiency in doing this. I always figure that if I am vegging up some new clones I will mess something up or its simply just an added damper on the electric bill. I have a clinic literally down the street once my grow is finished I sanitize and my closet grab a new clone that looks healthy and go at it again.

I have slowly been reading through the thread day by day I saw one grower who on here who was saying he was vegging up a plant "putting one in and taking one out" every month and was harvesting every month the thing I cannot get through my head is how this is possible I feel since flowering is destined to at least 8 weeks how can perpetual growth be efficient if the flowering time is always a mandatory amount of time as compared to vegging which is just there sitting and waiting.. Am I missing a key point here and wasting a lot of valuable time vegging up the clinics little baby clones I have the space to get a veg room going but I just want to see the benefit in doing so it just seems that its easier to veg, flower harvest and dry all in one space but if I was able to increase my yields throughout a year I would definitely do it sometimes I just have trouble picking up on things :(.
 

woodsmantoker

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Dapio - My plants flower in 60 days time, In that time I am vegging plants and filling screens. If you cant get your screen filled in that time, adjust the size to better suit the plants abilities in that time frame.
 

woodsmantoker

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You don't have to simply Veg, and flower. You can have stages between. (numbers of plants limits this, however I can do it with 6)
So can you.
 

Felder

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After a lengthy time off due to a bad start of the year I have a clean bill of health and thanks to a generous friends gift of a few pretty little ladies I am back in action. Glad to see the thread is still up and going, I will be tweaking my setup a bit but will still be scroggin it until then just wanted to introduce everyone to the young'uns. The first is Killer Queen, a clone I have been trying to get ahold of for a while and my buddy finally took pity on me, second is my old Bubba Kush-haven't had a garden without it in years, and the third is a puny looking Green Crack but she will perk up in a couple days.
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dapio

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hey Felder sorry for your troubles bro I hope things are going better for you it looks like you have some nice ladies there looking forward to see what type of work you get going with them!
 

matatan

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felder thats in coco? whats your nutes? i plan on running my first coco grow in a couple weeks and im still undecided as to which nutes to purchase. thinking about running the adjusted lucas formula for coco with some additives that i already have, or pureblend pro or cns17 or canna a+b lol... so many to chose!
 

woodsmantoker

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The scrogtionary

I have been concerned with the organization of information since prior to this threads creation. I learned over time that allowing this thread to be a compilation of random information about the topic, best suits the need to have all the information in one place without any one persons full effort involved in creating it. This way, as you have begun, a person can take the needed information that has been generated through time and experience and create a more organized dictionary of all scrog information. I began a book a few years ago doing just that.... Due to my health, many projects have been postponed and some discontinued however, I would be very interested in your help to do what you have proposed. I would also lend my expertise on the subject and opinions when requested. Thank you for your interest and understanding of the need to organize the generated information regarding a very misunderstood and little known advanced cultivation method.

Woodsman~
 

Felder

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Dapio-thanks for the welcome back, glad to be up and running again.

Matatan-sorry but it is not coco, it is just some cuttings in some rooting plugs that once rooted were placed in plain old potting soil. I have heard good things about coco keep us posted on what you decide on and how it goes.

Woodsman- Thanks and as to your request I cannot speak to Beremese or Knock Out Kush as I have never grown or smoked them. But I am a big fan of the Bubba. Voracious grower and eater a staple in my garden for years. Heavy hitter smoke, don't make any plans or operate heavy machinery. Taste and smell hits you out of the gate with the Bubblegum notes and the smoke finishes with that characteristic lilac Kush flavor.

For Scrogging Bubba is one of the strains I do go ahead and top, my particular pheno wants to grow a main cola with a few smaller, topping it just evens it out and gets a few more shoots up. This strain is a bit bend resistant so I tend to put the screen on earlier for it than some of the others as it tends to snap easier when pulling it under the screen. I will say that scrogging does not help increase the yield AS MUCH as some of the other strains I have grown(my Green Crack, Pandoras Box and White Widow always close to doubled their yield with scrog) but it does increase the yield under the same conditions by ~50% I would say. Granted my yield increases may be skewed as I grow with 2 250W lights so limiting my vertical growth is paramount to success and scrogging helps me achieve that quite handily. Bubba yields big blocky buds, look like footballs, super dense and heavy resin producer, mine finishes in ~70 days.

If you get a chance at a good BK clone I recommend it, just remember she is a big burly girl but she likes a gentle hand when you tie her up ;-)
 
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