Epic 4x4 Flowering Smackdown : 96 Elites vs 288s
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led1k
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I feel better now! @Ibn Vapin had the guess and now confirmation.
The pics in the "lighting up" post are the happiest I've seen. 
Or_Gro
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Harvested a little over 2.5 lbs (trimmed wet wt) from 3 mother plants: Jack Herer (front left), Original Glue (middle right), and Trainwreck (back right). Will harvest remaining 3 plants after first freeze dryer load is done.
Half into paper grocery bags to air dry, still on stems; other half into freeze dryer, buds removed from stems.
Samples (10-12g) of each strain in 100F oven currently to determine dry weight and moisture content at harvest. Afterwards, samples will go to QA dept for testing.
Jack Herer
freeze dryer tray
grocery bag
Original Glue
freeze dryer tray
grocery bag
Forgot to take pic of Trainwreck tray
grocery bag
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Steakbomb
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Are you freeze drying with the intent of pressing rosin? I'm assuming it doesn't achieve the same thing as drying for smoking the flowers but I really have no idea
Or_Gro
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I’m doing it to see what diff is, since i have access to the freeze dryer...it’s main purpose is for drying bubble hash, to make the best quality rosin.
Ibn Vapin
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I'm not super sure there's a lot of difference in the end result, just one's done with the stuff and the other lets the water evaporate out?
Or_Gro
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We’ll see...
StickyBudHound
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While looking for better curing methods, I ran across this.
"Salt Lake City’s Harvest Right has freeze-drying unitsthat shorten the curing process to just 24-36 hours"
https://www.leafly.com/news/growing/new-methods-technologies-curing-cannabis
We're gonna need a full report on that.
Or_Gro
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For sure it shortens drying process, this load will be done in less than 36hrs....that’s why these machines are used for drying bubblehash with minimal oxidation.While looking for better curing methods, I ran across this.
"Salt Lake City’s Harvest Right has freeze-drying unitsthat shorten the curing process to just 24-36 hours"
https://www.leafly.com/news/growing/new-methods-technologies-curing-cannabis
We're gonna need a full report on that.
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(Upper right is total elapsed time, center is current time remaining in final cycle)
Curing bud (bubble doesn’t need to be cured) is a whole other ballgame, that is the real test...
I’m on it...in addition to smoking a j or 2 when both drying methods are complete, i’ll separately jar some of both with bovedas, to cure; i’ll also separately press some of both for “live” rosin.
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Or_Gro
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Afterburners lit!
Considering how low the girls are and how much height there is to play with, now that the plants are fully committed to flowering mode, i’ve turned on the qb35s (red, deep red, far red) in the 288 tent and the far red in the 96 tent (96s have red and deep red built in), for full lights on, to get emerson effect.
6x96
Without
With
8x288
Without
With
(difficult to see red and deep red in 96 tent since they are embedded among white leds, which are much more intense; far reds are so dim, you barely see them in either tent.)
Next week, after seeing how the emerson far red affects stretching, and when most of stretch is done, i’ll extend far red into first 15 mins of lightsoff, for initiator effect.
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Or_Gro
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Qb 18s and 35s are same thing, one is diy, other is full kit. They contain red (630nm) , deep red (670nm), and far red (730nm) diodes, on same circuit, so it’s all or none.
The 288s don’t have any supplemental reds, so for emerson effect they need to be supplemented with all three types of reds.
The 96s are white leds (diff diodes than 288s) with supplemental red and deep red. To get emerson effect, they need to be supplemented with far red. I am using a 4’ growbright far red bar (735 nm) for this.
There is a 4’ growbright far red bar in each tent.
Since i cannot separately control the far red diodes in the qb35s, the growbright far red bar will be used in the 288 tent to provide the far red used in first 15 mins of lightsoff, for initiator effect.
The growbright far red bar in the 96 tent can just be left on for the additional first 15 mins of lightsoff, for the initiator effect.
As i mentioned before, i’ll turn both bars on for initiator effect next week, when most of stretch is complete, as far red is involved in increasing stretch (as well as putting plants in instantaneous sleep mode and to boost flowering, for initiator effect) and i don’t want to overdo it this week.
WeedSexWeightsShakes
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I got a lot of stretch this grow. A couple are probably 6ft now. Getting excited about the new grow room. Got my 115 gal reservoirs yesterday, all 12 of my fotop 800 boards, drivers and flood kits should be at the house, need to pick up pumps and tables from the grow shop. Just waiting for the tables to arrive at the grow shop.
Or_Gro
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Luvin it dude! Can’t wait to see your setup and some badass girls thankin Jah the almighty....
Or_Gro
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Update on controlled variables.
Main lights: 12:12 at ~1050ppfd
Emersons: 12:12
Initiators: off for now
Arcadia 14% uva 30% uvb: running at ~ 75uW/sq cm for six 15 min periods throughout lights on
Air temp: 83-86F
RH: 50-55%
Circulation fans: 3 fans running per tent, 24x7, at lowest speed.
Water temp: ~68F
pH: 6.1
EC: 1.6, technaflora nutes
Main lights: 12:12 at ~1050ppfd
Emersons: 12:12
Initiators: off for now
Arcadia 14% uva 30% uvb: running at ~ 75uW/sq cm for six 15 min periods throughout lights on
Air temp: 83-86F
RH: 50-55%
Circulation fans: 3 fans running per tent, 24x7, at lowest speed.
Water temp: ~68F
pH: 6.1
EC: 1.6, technaflora nutes
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Or_Gro
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Some before/after freeze dry shots...75% moisture content at harvest, 0% moisture content after freeze dry.....
Jack Herer:
Original Glue:
Trainwreck (no before shot):
Magnify for maximum droolage!!!
2 jars each, with boveda 62s, to be brought back to curing rh%, then measured for moisture content % at 62% rh equilibrium...to provide mc%:rh% equivalence, for future use.
At that point, one jar of each will cure, the other will be pressed for live rosin...
Will do same once air-dry samples have reached snap dry.
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StickyBudHound
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Is there any smell after freeze dried/cured? What's the weight now? Have you tried any yet?
Or_Gro
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Light weight, fluffy, resin-covered, smells like dope straight from plant.
Weights altogether when everything dry...
Hasn’t gone to qa yet, but most definitely outstanding potency, i snuck a single one-hit trainwreck bongation early and another jack herer one just now...have a good feling about that report...gotta be patient for air dry batches, rehydration of all to 62%rh, a little pressing, then the pre-cure smoke-off ceremony....later, the post-cure smoke off...
Personally, i can’t wait to see/smell/taste/enjoy the rosin part...
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