Or_Gro
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The jack herer works...too.
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Epic 4x4 Flowering Smackdown : 96 Elites vs 288s
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Or_Gro
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Ibn Vapin
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Green Crack
Or_Gro
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Oh yeah, the most diffuckult strain i’ve grown...i’ll harvest a gc mom today and see if the potency is worth it, i’ve sampled the other 3 strains and they are pretty damn good, so gc may not be worth all the extra worry & work...maybe you’ll get a better pheno...Green Crack
Ibn Vapin
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What all specific issues have you had? I hope I get a better pheno too, if you struggled I'd sweat bullets lol
Or_Gro
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The list would be shorter if you asked about what were the good points...
Mine seemed/seem to be sensitive to almost anything: temp, humidity, nutes, ph, light intensity...
I just have to pay attention to the littlest changes in how it looks, and then watch to see if that change gets worse, then figure out what to do...if you have probs, i’ll be here...
Or_Gro
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@StickyBudHound , i’ve tasted each of the 3 strains that i freeze dried so far. I’ll compare against the air dried ones when they’re done, but the freeze dried ones aren’t harsh or grassy.
I don’t get much flavor out of burning weed, so if there is a big connoisseur flavor diff, i can’t tell...but, i’ll be able to tell from the rosin.
One noticeable thing is the texture of the freeze dried material: very soft, fluffy, light wt, even the stems are soft - closest thing i can think of is a cotton ball.
Steakbomb
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You could do like schplakken on GC and vacuum-seal the fluffy buds to make them dense...
Or just press them. Yeah. Press them.
Or_Gro
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Or roll some spliff, or some gatling bowls, or pipe, or vape, etc, etc, etc...
Or_Gro
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UVB starting to burn a few spots on Green Crack plants in each tent (bottom right) at about 18”, none of the other 3 strains showing damage in either tent, eventhough the other strains are same or closer to lights.
So, i reset lights...mainlights of each config is about 24” above the Green Crack in each tent, with uv lights a couple inches below.
6x96
8x288
So, i reset lights...mainlights of each config is about 24” above the Green Crack in each tent, with uv lights a couple inches below.
6x96
8x288
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Or_Gro
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Btw, they aren’t fluffy buds, the freeze dry process makes them feel that way...
Ibn Vapin
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I'd guess the freeze drying keeps the fibers from stiffening with how it peels the water out. I don't get an awful lot of flavor taste from burning bud either. If I vape it I can a bit, or dabbing like you said.
Or_Gro
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We’ll see what happens as they rehydrate w the bovedas...
Not sure what curing would do, it’s already smooooth...
Ibn Vapin
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It's gonna get your QA dept fucked up is what it's gonna do
Or_Gro
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Day 20 from flip: Pistil balls galore. Each plant has at least 40 mains/laterals at canopy top, each with 5 to 7 node pairs of tightly stacked pistil balls plus cola tip.
At same point in previous grow the 288 config had 16-20 mains/laterals at canopy top, each with 7 to 9 node pairs of widely spaced pistil balls plus cola tip.
6x96
8x288
Getting shaggy again....
At same point in previous grow the 288 config had 16-20 mains/laterals at canopy top, each with 7 to 9 node pairs of widely spaced pistil balls plus cola tip.
6x96
8x288
Getting shaggy again....
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Or_Gro
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Current Spectrum...from pistil development thru harvest i am trying to match each light config’s red spectrum. Cuz, this grow is about maximizing flower yield, red is the most important spectral band for flowering, and acceptable red lights are available to supplement each type light config.
If i can closely match the red bands for each light, in terms of key peaks and total relative intensity, then, what remains unmatched and any interplay between that and the reds will be the sources of any yield differences related to the white diodes of the 96 vs 288. It’s these non-red spectrum bands that make up the majority of the relative intensity and are driving the colortemps of the two configs: ~3400K for 96s, 3000K for 288s.
Here is my current best effort at matching the red spectrum (area to right of vertical line). I will take one more shot at it when some additional lights arrive.
Overall, both configs have almost exactly the same area, in the same sub-bands: 620nm (red), 660nm (deep red), and 740nm (far red). The peaks are somewhat sharper for the 96 config, the 288 config has somewhat more relative intensity in those same wavelengths.
The far red sub-band is the most different, which if significant, should stretch the plants under the 96 config a little more than the plants under the 288 config...not evident yet.
6x96 Emerson
8x288 Emerson
Since the far red content of the emerson lights hasn’t noticeably stretched plants, i’m planning to start initiator lighting (far red for 1st 15 mins of lightsout) on Day 22.
If i can closely match the red bands for each light, in terms of key peaks and total relative intensity, then, what remains unmatched and any interplay between that and the reds will be the sources of any yield differences related to the white diodes of the 96 vs 288. It’s these non-red spectrum bands that make up the majority of the relative intensity and are driving the colortemps of the two configs: ~3400K for 96s, 3000K for 288s.
Here is my current best effort at matching the red spectrum (area to right of vertical line). I will take one more shot at it when some additional lights arrive.
Overall, both configs have almost exactly the same area, in the same sub-bands: 620nm (red), 660nm (deep red), and 740nm (far red). The peaks are somewhat sharper for the 96 config, the 288 config has somewhat more relative intensity in those same wavelengths.
The far red sub-band is the most different, which if significant, should stretch the plants under the 96 config a little more than the plants under the 288 config...not evident yet.
6x96 Emerson
8x288 Emerson
Since the far red content of the emerson lights hasn’t noticeably stretched plants, i’m planning to start initiator lighting (far red for 1st 15 mins of lightsout) on Day 22.
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StickyBudHound
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Cool. Thanks for the report! Once they're rehydrated to 62% please let me know how it changes it up. I agree, I don't normally get a lot of flavor difference between strains but, I do taste subtle hints of those different terps. The lemons, berries, pines, etc. Parts of the smell bouquet.
Its interesting how it changed the texture of the bud, smoothed out like the cotton ball you compared it to, all soft feeling. I don't know that I've ever seen what a freeze drier does to the products that come out of it.