Ever think about the beginning?

i think about that shit damn near every day. an everyday i dont come up with nothin!

i rather not know... i gave a bum laidie today some money for water we live in the desert she sead god bless me.. i liked that!!! its crazzy isnt it?

Trump - isnt that a good feeling? Its really weird. One time me and a friend were just frying our balls off at this trail and this old lady was walking down, it wasthe middle of he day, then she said 'nice day out' I replied with 'YOUR TELLING ME!'. She then asked if we liked candy because she hid some in various places in the woods for this scavenger hunt she was making for her grand kids. She said the kids wouldnt find much due to their age and then my buddy asked what kind of candy. She said 'skittles and starbursts' then she winked and said 'god bless' as she walked away.

Me and him cried together that day lol

And I only was able to eat half a bag of skittles and a couple starbursts xD
We waited til night time when they were done though

i walked into a room one night and saw a herm in the middle of the plants everone was like WHAT THE FUCK ya in the dark with a greenlight flashlight that was a trip..

When taking into consideration what we know about the universe, and that everything points to the fact that one cannot ever get something, out of nothing... would it not be better to assume existence has always existed, rather than assuming existence sprang out of nothing?

I like the theory that at the center of each galaxy is a black hole, and at the center of each of these black holes is another universe, full of endless galaxies and endless universes, collapsing and forming new ones all the time, every moment.

Or how you know that light cannot even escape a black hole, maybe once a black whole traps enough matter and energy to create a universe, a reaction happens that opens up a parallel reality where this universe is born into, and so on and so on.

Strife your an awesome character. That idea looks just like this lol I was looking at this earlier just gazing into it.. I was trying to explain to urca what psychs made you 'see' haha

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I never thought of it that way. But still what is 'outside' our universe? you think it starts over again like the pipe levels in mario? Or whats another example? pac man!

And Im guessing with that theory that our universe before its time was irrelevant due to its non existence? Jeez I never thought of it that way did you just think of that or is that one of the thoughts you had and held onto a super long time ago?Just curious lol

Ok so like, say theres this ultimate space, its black, and it is infinite... it literally goes on forever, and there is nothing outside of it. Something has been in it this whole time, accept that its time that makes the something want to become more of what it already is. Take evolution for example, you know how when the planet first started to create life, and how long on the universal time line it took for things to take off, from the beginning of the formation of our planet to now.

Many scientists claim (through rigorous study and experimentation) that this planet is about 4.55 billion rotations around the sun, and that it took anywhere from .5 to 1 billion years for the planet to become inhabitable and for life to gets its foothold on this paradise.

Now, when you take a look at the scale of evolution you see that the longer "time" is around, the faster somethings want to become something more. For example, this planet has been around for billions of years, humans have only been around for a mere 200,000 years if that. Out of 200,000 years... only 200 of those years were spent creating the technology that we have today. From cars, to computers, to phones to roller coasters. Technology we use for work, and for play.... only 200 years out of a 200,000 year human history.

As the universe has told us, and is easily viewable through our new found technological advancements, that evolution indeed does happen, its happening all the time. The thing is, that as time passes... evolution seems to get more and more rapid, seems to get faster and faster. (accept that when evolution isn't necessary for continued existence it seems to slow down for some reason)

Say the existence in general had already been, and has always been... its just that there was a time when there was only a little of something in the space. As time passes, maybe that something for some reason or another wanted to be something more, so little by little that something found a way to grow bigger, eventually multiply, creating strings, circles, atoms, molecules. Maybe the first something actually was a black hole, sucking in every little peice of something in the space until KERPOW!!! All the information gathered into the black hole by chance, just seemed to fit, all the puzzle peaces formed together in such a way that the first universe was born, with laws, physics, gravity, everything in place in order for this universe to not collapse, or crunch in on itself.

As time passed, this universe... which is expanding by the way, evolves to give itself black holes within its galaxies. As time goes on the black holes gather up the ingredients for another universe. When the time is right, and the black holes have gathered enough energy, POOF! Now remember that ultimate infinite space, the one that the first black hole was in, that created the first universe? This is the space where the other universes that are born reside.

Why don't the expanding universes bump into eachother as each universe is expanding in the ultimate space? Well, since the space is infinite, as the universes expand, they get evenly distributed within the space to make sure that no universes bump into eachother, as each grow bigger, the space between the planets is increased.

I think someday that our universe will collapse in on itself, kinda get recycled in a way i guess...but i really don't know ANYTHING. Like, i think i know stuff, but really when it comes down to it... i don't know shit about what the fuck this reality is, or what the fuck is going on right now. Mushrooms help me cope with this feeling, makes not knowing easier to bare.

Come on science, lets figure some more stuff out soon before i die, i want to know if we live in a multiverse.

It takes an incredibly intelligent and modest man to admit that he himself knows nothing. And actually thinks that for himself, not based off what other intellectuals say.

I think we will see some stuff go down, I dont know how old you are, but Im in my early twenties for a little longer I got quite a bit! That makes complete sense though because if you think about it, one galaxy probably has all the essential elements, and once they are all in a centered spot crushed into a particle. Its make sense that itd want to explode out of the 'other side' of the black hole. Of course any PERSON making this journey would surely die

If you think of space and times fabric, since the black hole goes so far down, do you think it goes to through a dimension or just.. I guess up and down are irrelevant.. I feel like the black hole would explode in another dimension entirely and we have an even yet bigger megaverse that contains all the universes, and THAT is constantly expanding, leaving the universes apart. Thus leaving most galaxies apart. Some collide, but maybe its possible that it was meant to be, and neither of the galaxies were capable of making a worthwhile universe on their own. So they must combine.

Whats also weird to think about is that we see the center of the galaxy 26,000 years in the past since it is roughly 26,000 light years away. Odd since earlier I was reading the 2012 post saying that the period of consciousnesses shift was set in 26,000 year patterns. What do you think about this? Im not normally one for 2012 conspiracies, but it is interesting to read about ,and I never really did til last night.

As far as exponential growth goes, its apparent everywhere I feel like since the humans are evolving so much, I doubt we will die out.. And space travels lookin pretty possible right now.. STOCKS NIGGA! Is that even possible? I guess it is lol

And then there is the super-megaverse lol its a loop is all it is I just never thought of supermassive blackholes being the starts of other universes

I think that a lot of times, people need an "end time" scenario. Not only does this idea help justify the way we selfishly live, putting an idea into our minds that helps us continue to live this way makes our selfishness easier to bare... but also people want to change without having to, and some sort of calamity or so called "consciousness shift" will result in things changing, maybe even ourselves changing without having to put in the effort to change.

Look back in time, humans are always creating end time scenarios, 2000, 2010, 2012. I predict the next human end times hoax will be 2020, that sounds like a good even number does it not?

People want change without changing, people want to feel special, this end times hoax gives people something to talk about, it gives some people something to fear, or something to look forward to. It is simple to see that this hoax is merely a psychological need for those who have yet to find themselves, or who have yet to find the courage to change themselves in order to change the world.

Well said. The 2012 scenario has been around for awhile, I didnt even take the other apocalypses into consideration. I believe that nothing will happen. Cept Im gonna rob someone for sure xD THAT is selfish.. But not a person, perhaps a dumbass. But more about the stores.

People love being lazy man thats for sure. Its like by 2020 we arent even going to have to move anymore!

People.. People..

Yeah. I have been watching a lot of shows on the space lately. Stephen Hawkin's into the univers I think it was called was really great and I learned a whole lot.

One thing that stuck with me and boggled my mind is how dense black holes are. Something like the entire density of Earth in a mass smaller than a grain of sand. And how the Carbon elements that make life are only made in Binary Stars when they eventually collide. (I think that's what it said. A lot of information to absorb.)

Well,we observe things in a natural order,like everything we see has a beginning,a temporal stay or being in existence,then and ending or rearrangment back to the absolute.These three steps or phases of being are observed by us,and we can perceive it in all things,but the question comes to my mind what if this commonly normal human way of perception isnt necessarily the only way to look at it.,my idea is a bit hard to explain but ill try.Imagine yourself as a primordial lifeform,you dont see in color nor detail but you sense light and darkness,everything around is felt as waves of sensation instead of accute sensations such as we have,and that there is a limited sentience of yourself, yet you are moving in a collective of fellow primordial lifeforms,what do they perceive at this level?,or do we say that they dont have that capacity to conceptualize in any fashion?I say because we dont know for sure, I give them the benefit of the doubt here,is their universe sensed as beginning,being and ending?While our more evolved state perceives at a higher level, is it necessarily the only array of observation that is closest to how the universe may be?Just because we see in High def,dose that merrit us with the opitome of the ability to sense what is? Is our perception but a tangent of existence/totality?For all we know,we could be the ones who have the lesser senses and we could just be the dreaming insect while in our state,so with this being said,it will have the greater impact on what origination/being/ending is seen or conceptualized as.Maybe this idea is just to abstract or crazy,I could barely word it out myself....My point is,is that our echelon of perceptions are for us to use in our sense existence,to grow as beings... maybe,yet I dont think it to be the only possible echelon or level of sensing out of all lifeforms.

Pipe Dream said:

Yeah. I have been watching a lot of shows on the space lately. Stephen Hawkin's into the univers I think it was called was really great and I learned a whole lot.

One thing that stuck with me and boggled my mind is how dense black holes are. Something like the entire density of Earth in a mass smaller than a grain of sand. And how the Carbon elements that make life are only made in Binary Stars when they eventually collide. (I think that's what it said. A lot of information to absorb.)

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Most supernovae aren't necessarily binaries but single massive stars losing the fight of heat v. gravity. Nucleogenesis proceeds apace when these stars torch off in a type II supernova. Type Is are theorized to be old, large white dwarves that have just edged over Chandrasekhar's Limit, about 1.4 solar masses, at which point the entire, highly compressed mass of degenerate carbon contaminated with oxygen and neon ... undergo a thermonuclear deflagration. Boom. (Those are binaries ... something needs to be close enough to load that last straw onto the camel's back.) cn

high|hgih said:

It takes an incredibly intelligent and modest man to admit that he himself knows nothing.

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Exactly. Sometimes when I think I am smart, I realize how stupid I am to think that.

high|hgih said:

I mean it seems like everything cvame out of nothing. But what was that nothing contained in before?

Mindblowing

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There was never nothing if we are here right? But then why do we have a word for nothing?

VILEPLUME said:

There was never nothing if we are here right? But then why do we have a word for nothing?

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..."does this dress make me look like I'm holding water?"

..."yes"

...what was that?

...NOTHING!