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Skeet Kuhn Dough

Skeet Kuhn Dough

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CannaBruh said:
they could spin up 165 today and both 155 and 165 would still be stacked with killers, right now we have congested 155 and it's fucking things up... I don't agree with that another belt dilutes anything, if anything the interim belts have diluted the worth of a belt, another real championship belt would open things up imo.

think about it, how many lw interim champs have there been since Conor beat Eddie?

Khabib/Al (was real belt but who was champ to lose it?)
Tony/Kevin
Dustin/Max
did I miss any?

We already have 3x lightweight champs of which none beat a sitting belted champion... but i digress..
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155 lb is where it's at right now, no doubt. That, and women's bantam weight. I'm ready for another Cyborg/Lioness rematch. I think that Nunes gets her again, just not so much in the first round. Cyborg can try wrestling her, but Amanda has world class BJJ.
 
CannaBruh

CannaBruh

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Skeet Kuhn Dough said:
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155 lb is where it's at right now, no doubt. That, and women's bantam weight. I'm ready for another Cyborg/Lioness rematch. I think that Nunes gets her again, just not so much in the first round. Cyborg can try wrestling her, but Amanda has world class BJJ.
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Amanda's boxing is way tighter. When Lioness opens up she's the scariest woman out there. Imo had she opened up on Valentina she'd have rekt her but I feel like she might have respected Valentina's power maybe a tad too much.
 
Skeet Kuhn Dough

Skeet Kuhn Dough

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CannaBruh said:
Amanda's boxing is way tighter. When Lioness opens up she's the scariest woman out there. Imo had she opened up on Valentina she'd have rekt her but I feel like she might have respected Valentina's power maybe a tad too much.
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I think that they're both on even ground as far as Valentina/Amanda goes. Amanda just a smidgen better and that's what got her the decision in their fights. Those two are the best fighters in women's MMA though. Cyborg is just a powerhouse, you're right, Amanda's hands are way tighter.
 
CannaBruh

CannaBruh

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Skeet Kuhn Dough said:
I think that they're both on even ground as far as Valentina/Amanda goes. Amanda just a smidgen better and that's what got her the decision in their fights. Those two are the best fighters in women's MMA though. Cyborg is just a powerhouse, you're right, Amanda's hands are way tighter.
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If we only judge the two based on the fights the two have had between themselves, I agree. If we bring in the Nunes/Cyborg fight, then my judgement gets really skewed. When Amanda goes beastmode Cyborg ate canvas and quickly and it was violent. If that same switch that flipped in the Cyborg fight flips in the Valentina fight I would think Amanda mauls her. I am a huge Bullet-Valentina fan but I have a hard time seeing how she went down in weight and still couldn't end that girl in round 1. Whereas Amanda went up and dusted Cyborg in under a minute like nobody saw coming. She's on a new level now, Lioness that is.
 
Skeet Kuhn Dough

Skeet Kuhn Dough

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CannaBruh said:
If we only judge the two based on the fights the two have had between themselves, I agree. If we bring in the Nunes/Cyborg fight, then my judgement gets really skewed. When Amanda goes beastmode Cyborg ate canvas and quickly and it was violent. If that same switch that flipped in the Cyborg fight flips in the Valentina fight I would think Amanda mauls her. I am a huge Bullet-Valentina fan but I have a hard time seeing how she went down in weight and still couldn't end that girl in round 1. Whereas Amanda went up and dusted Cyborg in under a minute like nobody saw coming. She's on a new level now, Lioness that is.
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Gotta go to work soon so I gotta make this quick. I don't think that coming down in weight is always good for a fighter. Some fighters don't do well coming down, some don't do well coming up, others are great athletes and can cope well. I think the reason Cyborg ate canvas quick is because she came at Amanda, thinking she could do to her what she had done to other fighters. She couldn't. I don't think she would do that again and would be more patient next time, looking for a takedown for the ground and pound. However, I still take Nunes over Cyborg. She's just the most talented woman in MMA right now with Valentina closely behind. I think Cyborg is fighting Lesnar next :P
 
CannaBruh

CannaBruh

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Skeet Kuhn Dough said:
Gotta go to work soon so I gotta make this quick. I don't think that coming down in weight is always good for a fighter. Some fighters don't do well coming down, some don't do well coming up, others are great athletes and can cope well. I think the reason Cyborg ate canvas quick is because she came at Amanda, thinking she could do to her what she had done to other fighters. She couldn't. I don't think she would do that again and would be more patient next time, looking for a takedown for the ground and pound. However, I still take Nunes over Cyborg. She's just the most talented woman in MMA right now with Valentina closely behind. I think Cyborg is fighting Lesnar next :P
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Get to work but think about this, can Valentina make 145? :fire: now that would be some fire, both women eating good and healthy, let's do it UFC.
 
Skeet Kuhn Dough

Skeet Kuhn Dough

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CannaBruh said:
Get to work but think about this, can Valentina make 145? :fire: now that would be some fire, both women eating good and healthy, let's do it UFC.
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Amanda said before the Cyborg fight that fighting heavier was easier for her and that she would be fighting at her more natural weight. In terms of poundage, I don't think that women's MMA is as diverse as the men's department. I know Amanda had issues cutting weight before (I believe it was the rematch) fighting Valentina. Tbh I think that in their natural state Amanda might be in a heavier weight class than V.S.
 
CannaBruh

CannaBruh

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Skeet Kuhn Dough said:
Amanda said before the Cyborg fight that fighting heavier was easier for her and that she would be fighting at her more natural weight. In terms of poundage, I don't think that women's MMA is as diverse as the men's department. I know Amanda had issues cutting weight before (I believe it was the rematch) fighting Valentina. Tbh I think that in their natural state Amanda might be in a heavier weight class than V.S.
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oh most definitely
 
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KryptoBud

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CannaBruh said:
they could spin up 165 today and both 155 and 165 would still be stacked with killers, right now we have congested 155 and it's fucking things up... I don't agree with that another belt dilutes anything, if anything the interim belts have diluted the worth of a belt, another real championship belt would open things up imo.

think about it, how many lw interim champs have there been since Conor beat Eddie?

Khabib/Al (was real belt but who was champ to lose it?)
Tony/Kevin
Dustin/Max
did I miss any?

We already have 3x lightweight champs of which none beat a sitting belted champion... but i digress..
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You could add covington and adesanya to the interim list.
If they were to add another division they couldn't make it 165 without bumping 170 to 175. I think 5lbs is to close when you other divisions have 20lbs differences like MW- LHW-HW can be 60lbs.

Last night was of the better cards they've had for finishes. I loved watching pootie tang get his ass whooped by rda.
Felicia Spencer shocked me. I thought "this girl has no chance" Her first fight in the ufc finishes megan anderson in the first round and already has cyborg calling her out. I hope she doesn't get rushed into that fight yet.
Charles Olivera by ko??
The guy from rikers island with a hell of a fight to beat shoe face. I picked every fight wrong except the main event, but that was an entertaining card.
 
Skeet Kuhn Dough

Skeet Kuhn Dough

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KryptoBud said:
You could add covington and adesanya to the interim list.
If they were to add another division they couldn't make it 165 without bumping 170 to 175. I think 5lbs is to close when you other divisions have 20lbs differences like MW- LHW-HW can be 60lbs.

Last night was of the better cards they've had for finishes. I loved watching pootie tang get his ass whooped by rda.
Felicia Spencer shocked me. I thought "this girl has no chance" Her first fight in the ufc finishes megan anderson in the first round and already has cyborg calling her out. I hope she doesn't get rushed into that fight yet.
Charles Olivera by ko??
The guy from rikers island with a hell of a fight to beat shoe face. I picked every fight wrong except the main event, but that was an entertaining card.
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Cyborg needs to be working on that Nunes rematch :lol:
 
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