A new study finds babies are born racist assholes...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...how-racial-bias-study-finds.htmldy-finds.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...how-racial-bias-study-finds.htmldy-finds.html
evolutionary racism not debunked
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Padawanbater2
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Racist - A person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
"Babies show racial bias when picking playmates, a study suggests."
Harrekin
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Trying to justify your racist bullshit again?
Harrekin
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If the baby decides they're superior based SOLELY on the colour of their skin.
I don't know about your fucked up family, but my son never even saw a difference in peoples skin colour until he hit about 6 and even then he only saw it as a novelty, no more than differences in hair colour.
Harrekin
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You can make them nod in agreement just by moving your finger in front of their face...
Bias?
Blindnslow
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I believe that's called leading the witness, when you prompt the nod...
Doer
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This is their result? Not science.
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In a second experiment, 80 white 15-month-old babies saw a fair and an unfair researcher distribute toys to a white and an Asian recipient.
Half the babies saw the unfair experimenter give more to the Asian recipient and the other half saw them give more to the white recipient.
The study, published in the journal Frontiers in Psychology, found that when it came to picking a playmate, the babies picked the fair researcher less often when the unfair one had given more toys to the white recipient rather than the Asian one.
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Here is why it is a stupid conclusion.
These are 15 month olds. Have they ever been in anything before but racially pure grouping? I don't know. It doesn't sound like it.
Have they every seen an Asian before the experiment? I doubt it. Do Asians have a bias to whites? Yes they do. They are raised with it.
So, these fairness tests are very interesting, I have seen others. But, this one is not designed properly to show this.
How do you do it? Simple. You use babies from mixed race couples.
That would be a different outcome. Shame on them and shame on all bad science.
Babies aren't born "racists".
Babies ARE, however, born with the ability to discriminate. Discrimination is a survival tool, and works just as well for people as it does for potentially rotten / poisonous food sources.
Race can certainly be a factor used to discriminate due to cultural norms within ethnic groups, however, ethnicity alone is usually never the issue as much as it is the culture of the individual.
Babies ARE, however, born with the ability to discriminate. Discrimination is a survival tool, and works just as well for people as it does for potentially rotten / poisonous food sources.
Race can certainly be a factor used to discriminate due to cultural norms within ethnic groups, however, ethnicity alone is usually never the issue as much as it is the culture of the individual.
Look, I tend to agree with you. It's hard to learn anything from a baby.
My point was that someone said evolutionary racism has been debunked. As proof they offered up a study where neonates (much younger than 15 months) had no real change in facial expressions when presented with faces of different races.
My point is that you can glean many results from babies because they can't tell you what they are thinking.
Harrekin
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Not a big fan of Hitler.
UncleBuck
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15 month old babies have learned an awful lot in 15 months.
if you want to see if racism is innate rather than learned, check out some day old babies.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566511/
[h=3]Results[/h]Preliminary examination of the data revealed no significant effects of gender on looking times, so data were combined for further analysis. A paired samples two-tailed t-test conducted on the total time spent looking at Caucasian vs. other-race faces yielded a non-significant result (t = .036, df = 47, p = ns). Observation of the overall mean percentage of looking time verifies that newborns attended equally to both the Caucasian (49.73%) and the other-race faces (50.27%). The overall null preference was represented within each of the three ethnicity conditions: African (49.02%) vs. Caucasian (50.98%); Middle Eastern (49.83%) vs. Caucasian (50.17%); Asian (51.66%) vs. Caucasian (48.34%), with no comparison approaching significance. Newborns also displayed a null preference in the Caucasian (49.04%) vs. Caucasian (50.96%) condition.
[h=3]Discussion[/h]Overall the results obtained in Experiment 1 suggest that at birth, newborns display no spontaneous preferences for faces from own- or other-ethnic groups. Although null results can be difficult to interpret, it is unlikely that these results are due to an inability to differentiate between faces from different ethnic groups, given that newborns discriminate between faces from within their own ethnic group (Pascalis & de Schonen, 1994). The most likely account is that newborns are able to discriminate between faces from different ethnic groups, but no group elicits a greater attraction.
UncleBuck
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evolutionary racism is the thesis that racism is instinctual or innate, rather than a learned behavior.
studying a 15 month old baby will not tell you anything about its innate, rather than learned, behaviors.
major fail by the board's foremost white supremacist, bigotednbushy.
(^^^^just let me know if applying labels properly is over the line, mods)
studying a 15 month old baby will not tell you anything about its innate, rather than learned, behaviors.
major fail by the board's foremost white supremacist, bigotednbushy.
(^^^^just let me know if applying labels properly is over the line, mods)
Doer
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Did you mean can't in that last sentence?
I don't see much use from the these baby studies, except what we already know.
It is not that we are all born calm, trusting, and knowing the differnece of anything.
It is simply that even a worm will turn from pain. ( an expression from management.
)It is just that babies prefer simple and nice, no strife, no compettiion, etc is more simple on a baby no-mind.
It doesn't mean babies are not born bad, or anything like that.
