Examples of GOP Leadership

Budzbuddha said:

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It sounds like a scary place for Donald, the other prisoners can't threaten him, but his cell might be another matter. There is talk they will hold the defendants in jail until they are arraigned, the sheriff is black and doesn't appear to like Trump... Donald already has a warrant for his arrest sworn out if he or the others don't show up. The prospect of spending time in that jail should terrify Donald and make him behave, if he can. He will be under the thumb of 4 different judges, 2 state and two federal, but Cannon doesn't count, Trump could shoot someone on 5th avenue while out on bail and she wouldn't lock him up.

Yes , the No-show risk would be huge ( yuge ? ) mistake on anyone of them and their appearance order.
An arrest warrant will be enforced - either open the door or get it breached / cuffed / stuffed and Walking in humiliation where cameras would be there , thrown in the back of a cruiser ( where druggies pissed and shitted / vomited ) . Front page news folks .

Forever humiliated across the world , plastered on tv / online / CCP headquarters / Putin’s Bunker and even sweaty bathhouses.

It would a historical event … Best Time magazine cover - ever.

The spectacle would be a final death throe for his name and branding - a D-List Mobster. He is poison and to everything he touches . A poor orange clown that will find out he is no longer calling the shots , hanging out in a cage under watch , told when to eat and shit. Just another maggot in prison.

He gets no tears from me - just a smug smile.

Budzbuddha said:

Yes , the No-show risk would be huge ( yuge ? ) mistake on anyone of them and their appearance order.
An arrest warrant will be enforced - either open the door or get it breached / cuffed / stuffed and Walking in humiliation where cameras would be there , thrown in the back of a cruiser ( where druggies pissed and shitted / vomited ) . Front page news folks .

Forever humiliated across the world , plastered on tv / online / CCP headquarters / Putin’s Bunker and even sweaty bathhouses.

It would a historical event … Best Time magazine cover - ever.

The spectacle would be a final death throe for his name and branding - a D-List Mobster. He is poison and to everything he touches . A poor orange clown that will find out he is no longer calling the shots , hanging out in a cage under watch , told when to eat and shit. Just another maggot in prison.

He gets no tears from me - just a smug smile.

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He richly deserves this ignominious end but the level of corruption in this country has made me cynical and skeptical.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Budzbuddha said:

Yes , the No-show risk would be huge ( yuge ? ) mistake on anyone of them and their appearance order.
An arrest warrant will be enforced - either open the door or get it breached / cuffed / stuffed and Walking in humiliation where cameras would be there , thrown in the back of a cruiser ( where druggies pissed and shitted / vomited ) . Front page news folks .

Forever humiliated across the world , plastered on tv / online / CCP headquarters / Putin’s Bunker and even sweaty bathhouses.

It would a historical event … Best Time magazine cover - ever.

The spectacle would be a final death throe for his name and branding - a D-List Mobster. He is poison and to everything he touches . A poor orange clown that will find out he is no longer calling the shots , hanging out in a cage under watch , told when to eat and shit. Just another maggot in prison.

He gets no tears from me - just a smug smile.

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The federal trial for trying to steal the election won't have that big a public impact, however the whole process is on TV in Georgia and the coverage will be wall to wall. If Donald is convicted federally first or fucks up and is held in pretrial detention, then he will be appearing on TV in Georgia in custody and dressed in orange. Perception is reality to Donald and his fans, and they will watch his TV trial, because he will be there, and they are mostly TV people.

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DIY-HP-LED said:

The federal trial for trying to steal the election won't have that big a public impact, however the whole process is on TV in Georgia and the coverage will be wall to wall. If Donald is convicted federally first or fucks up and is held in pretrial detention, then he will be appearing on TV in Georgia in custody and dressed in orange. Perception is reality to Donald and his fans, and they will watch his TV trial, because he will be there, and they are mostly TV people.

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Former Presidents enjoy Secret Service protection for life. How would that work if Trump were sentenced to a prison term?

ttystikk said:

Former Presidents enjoy Secret Service protection for life. How would that work if Trump were sentenced to a prison term?

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Run a few prison guards thru SS academy and give them double authority. I know that some local county sheriff's have been deputized as DEA agents for drug enforcement..

Trump plans to skip Fox News debate, sit for Tucker Carlson interview: report
Former President Trump plans to skip next week’s first Republican presidential primary debate and instead sit for an interview with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson, according to a new report.

Trump has made the decision to skip the debate and is currently planning to sit for an interview with Carlson, The New York Times reported, noting the former president has spent the last several days soliciting feedback from aides and allies on whether to participate in the debate.

When contacted for comment on the reported agreement between Trump and Carlson, an aide for the former president said his campaign “hadn’t confirmed anything on our end” and cautioned against “getting too far ahead” as it relates to the former president’s plans.

Trump, the front-runner for the GOP nomination, has for weeks signaled a hesitation to participate in the Aug. 23 debate, which is being hosted by the Republican National Committee and will be broadcast on Fox News.

The former president has in recent months ridiculed Fox, the top-watched cable news channel, for what he has said is fawning coverage of his political enemies. Trump has also said he feels that participating in the debate would allow his GOP rivals to attack him needlessly.

Fox hosts and executives have, at the same time, been urging Trump both publicly and privately to participate in the first debate, which is sure to serve as a major media spectacle and be one of the biggest ratings nights for the channel of the year.

Trump’s reported selecting of Carlson to host a counterprogramming event of sorts to the first debate can be seen a significant slight to Fox, the cable news giant for which Carlson was at one time its top-rated host.

Fox pulled Carlson off the air in April just days after it agreed to pay Dominion Voting Systems $787 million to settle defamation claims brought by the company in connection with the network’s airing of false information about its software being promoted by Trump and his allies.

As part of the months-long litigation, Dominion unearthed internal communications from several top executives and hosts at Fox showing them throwing cold water on Trump’s false claims of widespread voter fraud and criticizing the former president.

Among those communications were text messages from Carlson, who in one widely publicized message wrote he “hated” Trump “passionately” and expressed he “couldn’t wait” until the network was able to ignore him.

Other messages sent by Carlson showed him disparaging female executives at the network and complaining about how the company was being run in the days following the 2020 election.

Since being ousted by Fox, Carlson has started an online version of his popular prime-time show on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.

Fox earlier this year sent Carlson, who is still under contract with the network, a cease-and-desist letter over his new online show, claiming he had violated the terms of his contract.

"Chicken."

ttystikk said:

Former Presidents enjoy Secret Service protection for life. How would that work if Trump were sentenced to a prison term?

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A new democratic congress may sit on Jan 2 nd 2025 and they can change the law so that SS protection is removed from any convicted felons serving time in federal prison. It is cheaper and easier to guard him in a cage at a secure facility using prison guards. Donald will be barely into the prison system in 2025 and there are a few months of evaluation usually. Say he is convicted over J6 federally by June 24, it could be months until he is sentenced and held in jail or some other federal detention center around DC and they have a few. For this kind of serious crime and potential sentences, the cuffs usually go on in court after the verdict is rendered and appeals are made from inside a cell.

The most important thing is he wins the GOP nomination and if he does, he is disqualified from the general election over the 14th amendment, leaving the republicans high and dry on the eve of the election with Trump in jail and disqualified from running for POTUS. He cannot be sued to be removed from the ballot until he files the papers for the election, sometime after the GOP convention. I don't think republicans can sue to keep him off the primary ballot because the nominee is not a federal office. Donald will be in jail, but he won't give up the nomination until they disqualify him after a lawsuit and the republicans won't have a chance to pick another candidate before the election. They appear to be between a rock and a hard place with Donald, enough of the base are in love with the asshole and are his to command.

There is a very good likelihood that the republicans will nominate Trump even with ongoing criminal trials and convictions. Once nominated, they can't get rid of him before the election, unless the SCOTUS helps them out by ruling Trump can't even run in the primaries and being the republican nominee is not a federal office, but it is an elected position in some states, others caucus. If the SCOTUS wants to help the GOP, they will rule he is disqualified from primaries too, we will see.

DIY-HP-LED said:

… he is disqualified from the general election over the 14th amendment,

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not unless Scotus says so.

Here’s the relevant section. Note last sentence, though chances of that occurring are infinitesimal.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Seems everyone like to invoke the 14th, till they read the last sentence. And i have a feeling the federal society is testing the waters......

i wonder if the states can invoke it and not just the federal gov????

DIY-HP-LED said:

A new democratic congress may sit on Jan 2 nd 2025 and they can change the law so that SS protection is removed from any convicted felons serving time in federal prison. It is cheaper and easier to guard him in a cage at a secure facility using prison guards. Donald will be barely into the prison system in 2025 and there are a few months of evaluation usually. Say he is convicted over J6 federally by June 24, it could be months until he is sentenced and held in jail or some other federal detention center around DC and they have a few. For this kind of serious crime and potential sentences, the cuffs usually go on in court after the verdict is rendered and appeals are made from inside a cell.

The most important thing is he wins the GOP nomination and if he does, he is disqualified from the general election over the 14th amendment, leaving the republicans high and dry on the eve of the election with Trump in jail and disqualified from running for POTUS. He cannot be sued to be removed from the ballot until he files the papers for the election, sometime after the GOP convention. I don't think republicans can sue to keep him off the primary ballot because the nominee is not a federal office. Donald will be in jail, but he won't give up the nomination until they disqualify him after a lawsuit and the republicans won't have a chance to pick another candidate before the election. They appear to be between a rock and a hard place with Donald, enough of the base are in love with the asshole and are his to command.

There is a very good likelihood that the republicans will nominate Trump even with ongoing criminal trials and convictions. Once nominated, they can't get rid of him before the election, unless the SCOTUS helps them out by ruling Trump can't even run in the primaries and being the republican nominee is not a federal office, but it is an elected position in some states, others caucus. If the SCOTUS wants to help the GOP, they will rule he is disqualified from primaries too, we will see.

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Double JJ above mentioned and excellent solution.

cannabineer said:

not unless Scotus says so.

Here’s the relevant section. Note last sentence, though chances of that occurring are infinitesimal.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

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In this case I'm not sure they do, once disqualified in the general election only congress can restore him. I can see them ruling that he can run for the GOP nomination since that is not a federal office, but I see blue states at least disqualifying him from the ballot and red states refusing to and being sued over it. If he is the GOP nominee and convicted over J6 or runs as an independent if they turf him, he should be disqualified. The SCOTUS can no more qualify him than they can say a foreign born 20-year-old could run, all they can say is he can't run for POTUS in the general and that perhaps the GOP nomination is a private affair, since political parties are basically private clubs. That would be the worst-case scenario for the republicans, he can run for the nomination, but is disqualified for the general election and gets nominated by the base of morons anyway! After the scholarly legal article by those two federalist law profs, I think we know what the federalist on the SCOTUS are thinking.

ttystikk said:

Double JJ above mentioned and excellent solution.

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True, but the law needs to be changed so that anybody in federal prison loses their SS protection and gets placed in protective custody while inside. Train the guards and give them a pay raise, paint Trump's cell gold too, a gilded cage is fine.

Another asshole who is not ready for prison life and will go down freaking out like Trump.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Another asshole who is not ready for prison life and will go down freaking out like Trump.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1692602175220842836

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It would be nice if the investigation were to Kari someone into a Lake of woe.