Farmer's market may have troubles...

Bob has enough smoke to keep him happy. Bob raises rabbits and bangs hookers, that shit isn't easy!

In fact, all it would take is a hooker with parkinson's that loves rabbits and weed and bob would be runnin 99 plants. and opening a farmer's market in grand rapids.

^^lmao!!!^^

BigBuddahCheese said:

Go to any of thes "farmers markets" more like crack houses with people who need a tooth brush and a shower.

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Yeah seen a couple.. And none are as great as people make them out to be.

Must be the Paki in me.

bob harris said:

I'm aware of that case. it's a county case..The reason that no one lends any credence to that case yet, Is that the issue is already to the Supreme Court.

Waiting for that ruling, as it will instantly confirm, or over rule the county decision is far more prudent.

Any ruling on medical cannabis by a lower court, Doesn't set State Rules..just the county..it's a precedent...not a final interpretation of the law.

Only the SC can issue a fully binding decision.

So, if you'd like to feel that a county ruling makes p2p legal, well be careful....

I think the apothecary case is the p2p issue that's "up the court chain"..and I belive the ruling is expected fairly soon..

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P2P are covered because patients are engaging in medical use. Medical use includes transfer and delivery as you can see in the case I linked you to.

Cory and trevor said:

I swear Bob you are the happiest little scaredy cat on the planet. keep your head down. don't raise suspicion. don't go anywhere near your plant count total. keep quiet don't medicate where others can see. dude, get free for christs sake and stop being so happy with hiding in a dingy lil grow room.

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I don't hide at all...I simply respect others. I was on the diaz steps at hash bash 5 years in a row..did they invite you to speak?
Did more work to get medical cannabis passed, than you've done work in your life.

Worked my butt off trying to get signatures for the legalize initiative...got really angry at punks like you when the main stream folks that signed for medical..refused to sign for legalization. They virtually all cited the little punk abusing medical as the reason.

I'm not scared..I'm cautious. I'll continue to help the cause..while you whine about "the man"

gladstoned said:

In fact, all it would take is a hooker with parkinson's that loves rabbits and weed and bob would be runnin 99 plants. and opening a farmer's market in grand rapids.

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Would never open a farmers market..just don't like them. Bad Name..should have been called a "patient outlet' or something that at least lends itself some legitimacy. The name "farmers market" tells the story..it's for the farmers..not patients.

"pharma grow'? Yes, i'd open that in a heartbeat. Non profit..quality, tested meds at very affordable prices..employ 3 or so people full time..I'd do that in a heartbeat.

I'd take around $600 a month for my efforts..any other money after expenses would go to the employees.

ballin174 said:

P2P are covered because patients are engaging in medical use. Medical use includes transfer and delivery as you can see in the case I linked you to.

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It's a lower court decision. Why do you think no one has acted on the decision? SC will rule soon..and I hope they concur...but I'm not banking on it.

If p2p were intended in the "word as written"...why is there even a CG clause? Patients could simply help others who choose not to grow. 12 plants not enough to help others?
And please don't go off on the "oil" patients..there are not that many of them..they would fall under "reasonable amounts" anyways.

The problem many have is they forget this is MEDICAL cannabis...not LEGAL cannabis..too many guys want o ingnore that.

The voter intent was medical..for chronic an debilitating conditions. The implementation so far has far exceeded the intended use..yet they are still not happy.

bob harris said:

Would never open a farmers market..just don't like them. Bad Name..should have been called a "patient outlet' or something that at least lends itself some legitimacy. The name "farmers market" tells the story..it's for the farmers..not patients.

"pharma grow'? Yes, i'd open that in a heartbeat. Non profit..quality, tested meds at very affordable prices..employ 3 or so people full time..I'd do that in a heartbeat.

I'd take around $600 a month for my efforts..any other money after expenses would go to the employees.

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A dispensary has one personal selling several peoples shit and charging top dollar and they have no accountability for the meds.
A farmer's market has several growers who have to be accountable for their own shit and they are directly dealing with the patient. How is this not good for the patient and bad for the grower? The patient can go up to each individual farmer and ask any questions they want. A farmer's market is a good concept for selling anything. If the one in Jackson looks like a bunch of baseheads, then someone should be allowed to open a nicer one.
What you are describing in a dispensary that you want to open.

Hey you guys hear that, bob is opening a dispensary in grand rapids called the fluffy rabbit. He is gonna have 3 topless budtenders. As long as he can profit $600 a month after expenses. (he will have receipts for the $3 mil a year in "expenses"). I would love you and Timmahh to open dispensaries across the street from each other. We would all have free meds. If you 2 were gas stations gas would be 25 cents a gallon until someone went out of businss.

gladstoned said:

A dispensary has one personal selling several peoples shit and charging top dollar and they have no accountability for the meds.
A farmer's market has several growers who have to be accountable for their own shit and they are directly dealing with the patient. How is this not good for the patient and bad for the grower? The patient can go up to each individual farmer and ask any questions they want. A farmer's market is a good concept for selling anything. If the one in Jackson looks like a bunch of baseheads, then someone should be allowed to open a nicer one.
What you are describing in a dispensary that you want to open.

Hey you guys hear that, bob is opening a dispensary in grand rapids called the fluffy rabbit. He is gonna have 3 topless budtenders. As long as he can profit $600 a month after expenses. (he will have receipts for the $3 mil a year in "expenses"). I would love you and Timmahh to open dispensaries across the street from each other. We would all have free meds. If you 2 were gas stations gas would be 25 cents a gallon until someone went out of businss.

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Wouldn't do near 3 mil...I'm thinking 60 plants max. But if I did open a dispensary, it would be well run.

Growers are not accountable at the markets...no testing of meds..say anything they want if asked a question. Patients need to know what they are buying..pain meds, neurological meds have different cannonaded profiles. Of course, if you goal is to just get high, grading and truthfulness from the seller isn't needed...just a nose and an eye.

If the meds were tested, as a mandatory clause for selling, it would improve the "farmers market" concept. A dispensary could do the same thing as a market..so long as they can buy from the "farmers"...but when I think "medical"..the whole market thought makes no sense. Nam another medicine market?

Lets have a meth market! Why should a PD patient or a kid with adhd have to buy rizinopol from the big pharma? I mean I can mix up better stuff in my basement..meth DOES have medical uses ya know..like it makes some people feel better, and that's the standard for most cannabis patients. Poppy juice too..it's just a plant...Get me some coco for those leaf chewers..I mean..lets totally take medicine away from big pharma.



Timmahh couldn't compete with me. Not a chance. Doubt he could keep books, much less put up a professional front.

Plus he would never work for as little as I'd take..he couldn't give the same value.

Farmers with tested meds will happen when patients demand it and there are meth markets. There are crack markets too. Go down to six mile and dequindre and do something very basic and innocent, like get gas. The easiest and best way for you to make a difference is to go to a place like the jackson market and set up a shop and educate the growers and the patients. Yelling and being a hater will accomplish nothing at all. You need to lead my example bro. That is the route I am trying to take. If I was downstate with meds I would set up at the farmer's market with tested meds, laptop, microscope, and catalogs of info on the medical strains I have. ...well that isn't what I would do, that is what I am going to do. Preaching to someone that needs meds, tends to make them not listen to you, but you can preach as you sell your tested meds at $55 per zip.

gladstoned said:

Farmers with tested meds will happen when patients demand it and there are meth markets. There are crack markets too. Go down to six mile and dequindre and do something very basic and innocent, like get gas. The easiest and best way for you to make a difference is to go to a place like the jackson market and set up a shop and educate the growers and the patients. Yelling and being a hater will accomplish nothing at all. You need to lead my example bro. That is the route I am trying to take. If I was downstate with meds I would set up at the farmer's market with tested meds, laptop, microscope, and catalogs of info on the medical strains I have. ...well that isn't what I would do, that is what I am going to do. Preaching to someone that needs meds, tends to make them not listen to you, but you can preach as you sell your tested meds at $55 per zip.

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I wouldn't go to Jackson...why? As a patient only, I can only transport 2.5 oz..at top dlllar not enough money to make the trip, or take the risk of being there on "close down" day.

Another reason I don't like markets..they are set up for CG's..that have enough cards to transport significant weight.

Weight they should not have..as the law , "as written" does not allow "overages"..at least I can't find the part that says :"reasonable amounts to have extra and sell to anyone with a card."

I can see where the law says 'reasonable amounts for the patients needs..and I can see the 2.5 per registerd patient..but that wording pretty clearly states that the meds are for the patient that assigned the CG...not for the cg to sell for profit.

Now, before you start Timmhh...don't try the "but it doesn't say you can't' crap you are known for...

Kinda why I'm optomistic about "pharma grows"...first thing that allows for growing with the intent of helping others than the "directly related CG patient".

At least it's the first step towards sensible distribution.

And patients won't demand testing. Not enough real patients to be heard...mostly get high's with a card. Ya have to admit.."chronic and debilitating" has taken a pretty lenient standard...

you think testing = quality...wrong...if I bought a bag and it looked great, smelled great and was not potent enough..I would not buy another bag from that vendor ...word gets out..the best meds will go the quickest, no need for another middle man to increase the cost..You seem to think that because you protested on somebodies steps you contributed more than the next guy...Maybe the guy you are taking to has ran his preached and talked sense into 40 people about the real reasons why cannabis is illegal over the last 5 years, and why it needs to be legal. I am talking about 40 people that actually show up to vote. he has done plenty and probably more than you.

Patients will demand testing when they see you have tested meds and then they ask the next guy if he tests. After awhile, it's the norm. You know this. And your reasons for not liking the farmers markets is jibberish. Sign five patients walk into any farmers market with the best meds, have the testing paperwork and people will listen to your shit.

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you think testing = quality...wrong...if I bought a bag and it looked great, smelled great and was not potent enough..I would not buy another bag from that vendor ...word gets out..the best meds will go the quickest, no need for another middle man to increase the cost..You seem to think that because you protested on somebodies steps you contributed more than the next guy...Maybe the guy you are taking to has ran his preached and talked sense into 40 people about the real reasons why cannabis is illegal over the last 5 years, and why it needs to be legal. I am talking about 40 people that actually show up to vote. he has done plenty and probably more than you.

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Testing is important and should be PART of what helps you choose meds. Molds and shit are much harder to see, smell, taste.

I could easily spot mold or mildew

Corso312 said:

you think testing = quality...wrong...if I bought a bag and it looked great, smelled great and was not potent enough..I would not buy another bag from that vendor ...word gets out..the best meds will go the quickest, no need for another middle man to increase the cost..You seem to think that because you protested on somebodies steps you contributed more than the next guy...Maybe the guy you are taking to has ran his preached and talked sense into 40 people about the real reasons why cannabis is illegal over the last 5 years, and why it needs to be legal. I am talking about 40 people that actually show up to vote. he has done plenty and probably more than you.

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So sad you are willing to buy crap just to learn not to trust that vendor. I'd rather get what I'm looking for the first time.
I worked my ass of for medical cannabis. I'd never work to legalize it..as it can't be legalized for global economic reasons.

Decriminalization perhaps..possession of small amounts. But let everyone grow weed? Your insane man. We would become the global source for weed...and other countries would have huge problems with us..it would cause wars.

Legalization is a fools dream.

Ya, and America likes being the loved country in the world. No body hates americans.
You are killing me bob. We are the most hated mother fuckers in the world, by far, hands down, not even close. People are dying just so they can kill us. Do you ever watch the news. Ever? We are not paranoid people Bob all this shit really happens. foreignors hate us, rapists go free and rape, politicians steal millions to pay for their affairs, cops abuse their power. This shit really really happens. Anyone that watches the news throws four ounces in their truck and goes to the bar. ...here I go.

wow you set the bar low... I don't buy crap..in fact i have not bought a bag in probably 6 years...but if you think the dispensary is more legit or has better quality than a bunch of growers gathering at a market that gives the buyer dozens of options rather than one ..you are crazy

Corso312 said:

I could easily spot mold or mildew

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How about pesticides? You think the "farmers" are organic? Very few are..hydro and chemicals equal larger yields....and that's what most grow for yield. IE: Money.

I grow organic..Sativa (lower yielding than indica or "mixes") and way longer flowering times. Quality over yield. Of course I'm growing a strain for a specific group of conditions...most don't do that either.

I really love when people (not you) bash "big money" people as evil..then desire to make "big money" being a grower. It kind of shows thier true mentality. me me me me me all about me me me