Stoney McFried
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Go Sarah!!!!!!
Fat Chicks WTF
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blazindapurple
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alright ive been thinking about this thread for a while and here's what i think about fat people in general and how they got that way. i think the reason why they got fat in the first place is probably as a child they probably ate too much sweets or McDonalds or something like that and as time goes on they start to eat healthy but they added so much "baby fat" to themselves that now they cant get it off but im most likely wrong so anyone who can kinda upgrade this theory please do because like i said ive been thinking about it and not really researching. also i just thought of the idea that in america (i dunno if theres the same thing in the UK or EU) but now in america theres these "miracle pills" so that might make people think that they can just go pop a skinny pill or get surgery if they get too fat which lets them stuff their faces with whatver they want soo yeah i need some feedback because now what i said hardly makes sense to myself because im being a smart dumb person today
sarah22
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no dude...it makes a lot of sense. my parents have bad eating habits that i picked up from them. i have always been a chubby child, i guess im just naturally built that way...but there are specific times when i have experienced weight gain. during puberty and when my body really matured in my later teen years...and when im on new medication, which is a big killer because as a mental health patient im forever needing to change meds and the vast majority of pstchiatric meds can cause significant weight gain. i dont gain at any other time regardless of what i eat. so i can consume really more fast food than anyone should (lol
) and still maintain my weight. but if i cut out fast food and junk food like i have for the past few months i do experience slow steady healthy weight loss. 
oh and i also wanna talk about the pills
lol i know a little about that. theres a right way and a wrong way to go about using pills to assist with weight loss. lots of those pills can be quite effective but they have to be used in conjunction with proper diet and an exercise plan. i have taken an EC stack which is taking ephedrine and caffeine together. its a thermogenic. it increases heart rate and body temp during workouts and helps the body burn fat while building lean muscle. it works extremely well when being used properly.
IslandGreenGuy
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Maybe it's all that weed you smoke.. Nobody has to be fat. I'ts a personal choice. Some just have to work harder to lose weight. But it can be done. Unfortunity most of us pot smoker are a bit lazy and don't want to put the in extra phyical activity thats required for good weight loss.i assure you...i dont lack any physical exercise and i dont eat crap food. it makes me sick if i eat to much processed food...so i dont eat it at all. and im still fat. and it would be an underactive thyroid that would cause obesity. its called hypothyroidism. a person with an over active thyroid would have hyperthyroidism and that causes weight loss.
Muscle is the bodys furnice. The more muscle you have the more fat you burn. Yes muscle weighs more then fat, but working your muscles out will help you lose much more weight then exercise alone, hands down.
IslandGreenGuy
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sorry to pic on u again but all bodies are built the same. Its a fact the bone structures of obese people are the same as those who are skinny. Thats why fat people have alot more joint and bone problems. If we were supposed to be "built that way" then our joints and bones would be as well.no dude...it makes a lot of sense. my parents have bad eating habits that i picked up from them. i have always been a chubby child, i guess im just naturally built that way...but there are specific times when i have experienced weight gain. during puberty and when my body really matured in my later teen years...and when im on new medication, which is a big killer because as a mental health patient im forever needing to change meds and the vast majority of pstchiatric meds can cause significant weight gain. i dont gain at any other time regardless of what i eat. so i can consume really more fast food than anyone should (lol
oh and i also wanna talk about the pills
This is what I do, it's my job. I'm a nutritionist and Dietitian.
America has a terrible problem with blaming everyone else for thier fatness. They blame thier parents they blame thier lunch ladys, they blame fast food resturants. Don't blame anyone but you. You know your fat, and you know you can lose the weight if you need to.
Hayduke
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I respect that you are a dietitian, and a persons weight is there own responsibility.
However, your statement is correct but not in this context. Yes bone structure is the same in all people, but compare your bones structure to a crocodile...well lets just say if you can ID human skeletal anatomy, you absolutely can do the same with crocs, right on up and across the evolutionary ladder.
Human characteristics such as skin color, hair color and type, facial structure, and bone density (and yes body type) has evolved over time with environmental factors influencing the change. With a global world these changes are less pronounced as individuals emigrate out of and individuals immigrate into previously isolated populations and produce offspring.
Although poor diet may be partially the reason, peoples native to Central and S. America (not the Spaniard mestizos) are remarkably short in stature and share traits with other equatorial populations with increased melanin in their skin and some having curly hair which dissipates heat.
Northern Europeans with less melanin (less direct sun), straight hair that holds in heat and yes denser bone structure to hold up larger bodies which provide insulation from the cold. They also (due to less sun) are more likely to be able to digest bovine milk protein and absorb vitamin D rather than making it on their own.
Many Europeans also evolved in areas of high population concentrations where the water supply was polluted and survival meant being able to break down alcohol which was the only safe beverage. If not, you died and did not reproduce. This is in sharp contrast with native peoples of the Americas who lived in small nomadic bands and never had polluted water. They do not have or their bodies produce much less (some intermarrying) Alcohol Dehydrogenase (the enzyme that breaks down alcohol and makes you not drunk forever).
Moral of the story: While skeletal STRUCTURE is the same there IS a genetic hereditary component of bone size and density as well as chemically how the body processes nutrients. If your ancestors lived in areas where the growing season was short to non existent, you may hold on to fat (stored energy) longer than if every tree you walked up to had something to eat on it.
This is why there is a range of healthy BMI, people are not carbon copies.
And while individuals weight, their diet, and activity level is only controlled by them, their healthy shape may not be the same as someone who runs marathons, is considered super healthy, but cannot have regular periods...cuz the chemistry is off. There are also a large group of either formerly overweight people or the evil little fucks that eat all they want and claim superiority, that go around trying to prop up their poor self esteem by berating other humans. The person who started this thread is a prime example.
Get off your high horses people before you are bucked off. Be nice to your fellow man/woman, and focus on what is beautiful about them, or simply mined your own business.
sarah22
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i totally get where you're coming from, but as for all the weed i smoke...i didnt start to lose weight until i started to smoke weed. it can stabilize metabolism and helps to control my appetite and food impulses. i rarely get the munchies anymore. and my skeletal structure may be the same as any other human, but you really do have to take bone density into effect as well. i have very healthy bones...i've never broken anything, and in the event i hurt myself (which is often, im one of the most accident prone people out there) i've only maybe sprained an ankle once...i have quite a bit of muscle as well. im not blaming anyone for my weight problems. i know i have picked up bad habits from my parents that have been really hard to break (parents can definitely be to blame. we have to learn our bad eating habits somewhere when we're children, and those habits are very deeply ingrained in a person by the time they are old enough to start making their own choices)...but i work on it. my mental health plays a huge role as well. psychotic disorders can make people do some weird things. i have a hard time with my weight due to that as well...but thats another story...lol
sarah22
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very well saidI respect that you are a dietitian, and a persons weight is there own responsibility.
However, your statement is correct but not in this context. Yes bone structure is the same in all people, but compare your bones structure to a crocodile...well lets just say if you can ID human skeletal anatomy, you absolutely can do the same with crocs, right on up and across the evolutionary ladder.
Human characteristics such as skin color, hair color and type, facial structure, and bone density (and yes body type) has evolved over time with environmental factors influencing the change. With a global world these changes are less pronounced as individuals emigrate out of and individuals immigrate into previously isolated populations and produce offspring.
Although poor diet may be partially the reason, peoples native to Central and S. America (not the Spaniard mestizos) are remarkably short in stature and share traits with other equatorial populations with increased melanin in their skin and some having curly hair which dissipates heat.
Northern Europeans with less melanin (less direct sun), straight hair that holds in heat and yes denser bone structure to hold up larger bodies which provide insulation from the cold. They also (due to less sun) are more likely to be able to digest bovine milk protein and absorb vitamin D rather than making it on their own.
Many Europeans also evolved in areas of high population concentrations where the water supply was polluted and survival meant being able to break down alcohol which was the only safe beverage. If not, you died and did not reproduce. This is in sharp contrast with native peoples of the Americas who lived in small nomadic bands and never had polluted water. They do not have or their bodies produce much less (some intermarrying) Alcohol Dehydrogenase (the enzyme that breaks down alcohol and makes you not drunk forever).
Moral of the story: While skeletal STRUCTURE is the same there IS a genetic hereditary component of bone size and density as well as chemically how the body processes nutrients. If your ancestors lived in areas where the growing season was short to non existent, you may hold on to fat (stored energy) longer than if every tree you walked up to had something to eat on it.
This is why there is a range of healthy BMI, people are not carbon copies.
And while individuals weight, their diet, and activity level is only controlled by them, their healthy shape may not be the same as someone who runs marathons, is considered super healthy, but cannot have regular periods...cuz the chemistry is off. There are also a large group of either formerly overweight people or the evil little fucks that eat all they want and claim superiority, that go around trying to prop up their poor self esteem by berating other humans. The person who started this thread is a prime example.
Get off your high horses people before you are bucked off. Be nice to your fellow man/woman, and focus on what is beautiful about them, or simply mined your own business.
bleezyg420
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this thread is still alive, holy shit!
sarah22
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it is...but its civil conversation this time...lol
IslandGreenGuy
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Nice google search. Point taken. But still nobody has to be fat. Anyone can lose weight if they try hard at it. I'm not going to debate what you said, because it is entirely based on a theory. I believe in god and the bible. And as a christian I know that evolotion is nothing but a theory. Therefor your entire argument is based on lies. I'm not sayng you don't believe it because you probibly do. Have fun in Hell. There is still time to repent. I know more about diet and weight loss then most people so its even worth arguing it with a non beleiver. As you would lose. On another note, I like larger women, so don't think I'm just a bigot. Look, fat people get stuck in a cycle that only adds to their problem. All I'm saying is that with proper care, diet and exercise they can lose the unwanted pounds. I'm more then happy to help anyone who is serious about it. But don't try to tell me we evolved this way. We have only been here for under 10000 years. Your crocadile has been here (unchanged mind you) for over 100000. It must have happy with the way it lived wityhout. An intellectI respect that you are a dietitian, and a persons weight is there own responsibility.
However, your statement is correct but not in this context. Yes bone structure is the same in all people, but compare your bones structure to a crocodile...well lets just say if you can ID human skeletal anatomy, you absolutely can do the same with crocs, right on up and across the evolutionary ladder.
Human characteristics such as skin color, hair color and type, facial structure, and bone density (and yes body type) has evolved over time with environmental factors influencing the change. With a global world these changes are less pronounced as individuals emigrate out of and individuals immigrate into previously isolated populations and produce offspring.
Although poor diet may be partially the reason, peoples native to Central and S. America (not the Spaniard mestizos) are remarkably short in stature and share traits with other equatorial populations with increased melanin in their skin and some having curly hair which dissipates heat.
Northern Europeans with less melanin (less direct sun), straight hair that holds in heat and yes denser bone structure to hold up larger bodies which provide insulation from the cold. They also (due to less sun) are more likely to be able to digest bovine milk protein and absorb vitamin D rather than making it on their own.
Many Europeans also evolved in areas of high population concentrations where the water supply was polluted and survival meant being able to break down alcohol which was the only safe beverage. If not, you died and did not reproduce. This is in sharp contrast with native peoples of the Americas who lived in small nomadic bands and never had polluted water. They do not have or their bodies produce much less (some intermarrying) Alcohol Dehydrogenase (the enzyme that breaks down alcohol and makes you not drunk forever).
Moral of the story: While skeletal STRUCTURE is the same there IS a genetic hereditary component of bone size and density as well as chemically how the body processes nutrients. If your ancestors lived in areas where the growing season was short to non existent, you may hold on to fat (stored energy) longer than if every tree you walked up to had something to eat on it.
This is why there is a range of healthy BMI, people are not carbon copies.
And while individuals weight, their diet, and activity level is only controlled by them, their healthy shape may not be the same as someone who runs marathons, is considered super healthy, but cannot have regular periods...cuz the chemistry is off. There are also a large group of either formerly overweight people or the evil little fucks that eat all they want and claim superiority, that go around trying to prop up their poor self esteem by berating other humans. The person who started this thread is a prime example.
Get off your high horses people before you are bucked off. Be nice to your fellow man/woman, and focus on what is beautiful about them, or simply mined your own business.
Hayduke
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Whoa!!!!!!!...No google search involved...I was brainwashed by the University...Knowledge has always been viewed as threatening to controlling people...who do they kill first...the teachers and the educated... oh wait what thread am I in again...condemning me to hell?
And the comment on people being haters was not directed at you.
I agree with you that anyone can lose weight if they try. It is mind over matter. I have lost 100 pounds after ex left me with the 2 year old and took the car; walked and then bought a mountain bike to go 9 miles to work with 1000' elevation change, mostly in last mile, riding home didn't even count as it was all down hill......found it, and a couple more, lost 70 to do two weeks of Natural History Studies in Yellowstone and Grand Teton with daily 10+ mile hikes...found it, started smoking more and better marijuana....happier...lost 35 pounds over 9 months cooking vegetarian (not vegan) for the 13 year old and eating burgers on the week end, so basically not trying to lose weight, I do not even care beyond personal health (divorced twice and not interested in a third) so I am definitely aware of my heart and the change is good and continues, but without the rapid loss like before which led to gaining more...though I was aware of the weight gain and just didn't give a shit....probably cuz the devil's got my soul...oops my bad fat chicks...we are talking about fat chicks...I like them pretty much anyway they will talk to me...I just don't want (more) kids, herpes, nagging, bitching, drama, smoking all my weed, or derailing me from my dream of living off grid in an earthship of my own construction as self sufficient as possible.
As for your concern for my soul...thanks for the love. Everywhere I look I see Christians...and the last thing I would want to do after death is hang out with them for an eternity, but too each their own...One man gathers what another man spills
sarah22
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i really wasnt trying to blame my weight on anyone but myself, but the bad habits that have contributed to my weight i learned as a child. and regarding meds...its incredibly difficult to lose weight while on psychotropic medication. even a dietitian/nutritionist should know that. but i understand that now that im an adult my weight is 100% my responsibility. and i have been starting to bring it down . now. the religious stuff. im not going to tell you that your beliefs are wrong. i shouldnt have to, logic should tell you that it doesnt make sense. evolution is a "theory" but we have several studies that display evolution throughout history. this is my area of strength...science. the earth is several billion years old. hell doesnt exist. heaven doesnt exist. it defies logic. christianity is a relatively new religion, and several parts of the story were borrowed and copied from other religious stories that had been around for 1000 years before the whole concept of christianity was created. "GOD" is YOU. that voice people hear that they think is the holy spirit, is YOU. we are our own god. people see god as a separate entity to themselves that holds some superiority or authority. not the case. god and you are one in the same. the sooner people realize that its not some omniscient dude in the sky, and that its part of you, your mind and your soul...the better off humanity will be 
. now. the religious stuff. im not going to tell you that your beliefs are wrong. i shouldnt have to, logic should tell you that it doesnt make sense. evolution is a "theory" but we have several studies that display evolution throughout history. this is my area of strength...science. the earth is several billion years old. hell doesnt exist. heaven doesnt exist. it defies logic. christianity is a relatively new religion, and several parts of the story were borrowed and copied from other religious stories that had been around for 1000 years before the whole concept of christianity was created. "GOD" is YOU. that voice people hear that they think is the holy spirit, is YOU. we are our own god. people see god as a separate entity to themselves that holds some superiority or authority. not the case. god and you are one in the same. the sooner people realize that its not some omniscient dude in the sky, and that its part of you, your mind and your soul...the better off humanity will be
Stoney McFried
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There are medical conditions that make weight hard to lose. With that being said, have fun with the surprise you're going to get in the afterlife.
Being a Christian who tells folks how they're going to hell is all about excluding people.Nice demonstration of your cult mindset.Way to go, what a good christian you are,with your condescending attitude.Go take it to a religious thread. If you believe an invisible megalomaniac created the universe and punishes us with an eternity in hell for premarital sex,then you've already lost any argument you've tried to enter.
Being a Christian who tells folks how they're going to hell is all about excluding people.Nice demonstration of your cult mindset.Way to go, what a good christian you are,with your condescending attitude.Go take it to a religious thread. If you believe an invisible megalomaniac created the universe and punishes us with an eternity in hell for premarital sex,then you've already lost any argument you've tried to enter.
Hayduke, an awesome post again, and I especially agree with your last paragraph.
Whoa!!!!!!!...No google search involved...I was brainwashed by the University...Knowledge has always been viewed as threatening to controlling people...who do they kill first...the teachers and the educated... oh wait what thread am I in again...condemning me to hell?
And the comment on people being haters was not directed at you.
I agree with you that anyone can lose weight if they try. It is mind over matter. I have lost 100 pounds after ex left me with the 2 year old and took the car; walked and then bought a mountain bike to go 9 miles to work with 1000' elevation change, mostly in last mile, riding home didn't even count as it was all down hill......found it, and a couple more, lost 70 to do two weeks of Natural History Studies in Yellowstone and Grand Teton with daily 10+ mile hikes...found it, started smoking more and better marijuana....happier...lost 35 pounds over 9 months cooking vegetarian (not vegan) for the 13 year old and eating burgers on the week end, so basically not trying to lose weight, I do not even care beyond personal health (divorced twice and not interested in a third) so I am definitely aware of my heart and the change is good and continues, but without the rapid loss like before which led to gaining more...though I was aware of the weight gain and just didn't give a shit....probably cuz the devil's got my soul...oops my bad fat chicks...we are talking about fat chicks...I like them pretty much anyway they will talk to me...I just don't want (more) kids, herpes, nagging, bitching, drama, smoking all my weed, or derailing me from my dream of living off grid in an earthship of my own construction as self sufficient as possible.
As for your concern for my soul...thanks for the love. Everywhere I look I see Christians...and the last thing I would want to do after death is hang out with them for an eternity, but too each their own...One man gathers what another man spills
Stoney McFried
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Another sensible post.I get tired of telling them over and over.Too bad you can't make a quote along these lines, saves a lot of the time you're going to lose repeating yourself, lol.
i really wasnt trying to blame my weight on anyone but myself, but the bad habits that have contributed to my weight i learned as a child. and regarding meds...its incredibly difficult to lose weight while on psychotropic medication. even a dietitian/nutritionist should know that. but i understand that now that im an adult my weight is 100% my responsibility. and i have been starting to bring it down
Hayduke
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Damn Sarah, that was Beautiful.i really wasnt trying to blame my weight on anyone but myself, but the bad habits that have contributed to my weight i learned as a child. and regarding meds...its incredibly difficult to lose weight while on psychotropic medication. even a dietitian/nutritionist should know that. but i understand that now that im an adult my weight is 100% my responsibility. and i have been starting to bring it down
And as usual, thanks Stoney for having my back on the lord's day
...you never hear of the righteous giving up being judgemental for Lent...chocolate or cheeseburgers, that's easy...try giving up hate.
Stoney McFried
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Religion is all about exclusion.It's a club, you have to pay dues to enter,learn the secret handshake, etc.
Damn Sarah, that was Beautiful.
And as usual, thanks Stoney for having my back on the lord's day
Chief Pipe
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9inch bigbud
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just wait till most of you get to middle age and get the mid life spread LOL. I blame magazines for this perfect figure its pushed in hour faces we all want to be seen with girls that are size 8 on our arm because thats what we see every day when we look at magazines. Take a look at a country such as some parts of africa where fat women are the thin women that we all like to be seen with. In africa fat is seen as healthy and men go after that as a sign of a good mate to have healthy children with.
Go back 200 years and look what was the normal good looking woman looked like it was not a size 8 it was more like a size 16-20 wore a wig did not barth and had bad teeth. magazines and TV as made us change how we see women then men start saying things like the OP and before you know it fat is ugly and somthing to take the piss out of and if your a bloke you can not be seen with a fat bird on your arm.
If you only pick women because of a way thay look and not who they are then that is shallow and your lossing out on a lot more fucks than you would/could be getting.
Go back 200 years and look what was the normal good looking woman looked like it was not a size 8 it was more like a size 16-20 wore a wig did not barth and had bad teeth. magazines and TV as made us change how we see women then men start saying things like the OP and before you know it fat is ugly and somthing to take the piss out of and if your a bloke you can not be seen with a fat bird on your arm.
If you only pick women because of a way thay look and not who they are then that is shallow and your lossing out on a lot more fucks than you would/could be getting.
bicycle racer
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hatefull christians make me laugh they have no understanding of the original teachings of jesus. living full of hate must be tiring i feel sorry for such weakminded individuals keep your hatred to yourself no one wants to hear that madness on here peace.
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