FBI Can Listen To You Even When Your Phone is OFF!!!

Stoney McFried

Stoney McFried

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Take out the battery, if you're worried about it.I just whisper tenderly,"Fuck you, George Bush.Fuck you, piggies.Fuck you, patriot act." into my phone at night.Feels good.
 
Gryphonn

Gryphonn

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atombomb said:
FOX NEWS FROM YOU TUBE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G1fNjK9SXg


Just type it in your search bar,
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Mmmm, seems my old friend Bruce Schneier spoke of this way, way back in 2006:

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/12/remotely_eavesd_1.html

As I alluded in another post, there is no such thing as privacy nowadays, unless you choose to completely 'drop out'.

Remotely Eavesdropping on Cell Phone Microphones

I give a talk called "The Future of Privacy," where I talk about current and future technological developments that erode our privacy. One of the things I talk about is auditory eavesdropping, and I hypothesize that a cell phone microphone could be turned on surreptitiously and remotely.
I never had any actual evidence one way or the other, but the technique has surfaced in an organized crime prosecution:
The surveillance technique came to light in an opinion published this week by U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan. He ruled that the "roving bug" was legal because federal wiretapping law is broad enough to permit eavesdropping even of conversations that take place near a suspect's cell phone. Kaplan's opinion said that the eavesdropping technique "functioned whether the phone was powered on or off." Some handsets can't be fully powered down without removing the battery; for instance, some Nokia models will wake up when turned off if an alarm is set.
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Seems that the technique is to download eavesdropping software into the phone:
The U.S. Commerce Department's security office warns that "a cellular telephone can be turned into a microphone and transmitter for the purpose of listening to conversations in the vicinity of the phone." An article in the Financial Times last year said mobile providers can "remotely install a piece of software on to any handset, without the owner's knowledge, which will activate the microphone even when its owner is not making a call." Nextel and Samsung handsets and the Motorola Razr are especially vulnerable to software downloads that activate their microphones, said James Atkinson, a counter-surveillance consultant who has worked closely with government agencies. "They can be remotely accessed and made to transmit room audio all the time," he said. "You can do that without having physical access to the phone."
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Details of how the Nextel bugs worked are sketchy. Court documents, including an affidavit (p1) and (p2) prepared by Assistant U.S. Attorney Jonathan Kolodner in September 2003, refer to them as a "listening device placed in the cellular telephone." That phrase could refer to software or hardware.
One private investigator interviewed by CNET News.com, Skipp Porteous of Sherlock Investigations in New York, said he believed the FBI planted a physical bug somewhere in the Nextel handset and did not remotely activate the microphone.
"They had to have physical possession of the phone to do it," Porteous said. "There are several ways that they could have gotten physical possession. Then they monitored the bug from fairly near by."
But other experts thought microphone activation is the more likely scenario, mostly because the battery in a tiny bug would not have lasted a year and because court documents say the bug works anywhere "within the United States"--in other words, outside the range of a nearby FBI agent armed with a radio receiver.
In addition, a paranoid Mafioso likely would be suspicious of any ploy to get him to hand over a cell phone so a bug could be planted. And Kolodner's affidavit seeking a court order lists Ardito's phone number, his 15-digit International Mobile Subscriber Identifier, and lists Nextel Communications as the service provider, all of which would be unnecessary if a physical bug were being planted.
A BBC article from 2004 reported that intelligence agencies routinely employ the remote-activation method. "A mobile sitting on the desk of a politician or businessman can act as a powerful, undetectable bug," the article said, "enabling them to be activated at a later date to pick up sounds even when the receiver is down."
For its part, Nextel said through spokesman Travis Sowders: "We're not aware of this investigation, and we weren't asked to participate."​
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mr.parker

mr.parker

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yo fuck the fbi, cia, police and all that shit grab a fucking doobieand smoke fuck how all this gov. shit politics are just fucking up and fucking everyone over so don't give a shit and do what you do ppl hope everyone had a merry christmas and a happy new year
 
Sara the Poet in my Heart

Sara the Poet in my Heart

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mr.parker said:
yo fuck the fbi, cia, police and all that shit grab a fucking doobieand smoke fuck how all this gov. shit politics are just fucking up and fucking everyone over so don't give a shit and do what you do ppl hope everyone had a merry christmas and a happy new year
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If they want to listen to a conversation I have with my 85 year old dad, then so be it. I think they gotta a little more on there plates than listening to people discuss the last joint they rolled...
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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My brother in law used to think the government could watch people through their tv sets. Talk about a freak. "if we can watch it, they're watching us". You couldn't even reason with him about it. I'd be like, "dude we have 4 tv's just in this house, how many people would the government have to hire to watch every person in America through their TV set?"

I should tell him this phone thing, then'd he'd really be flipping out. Good stuff, just might have to do it.
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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Awwww man, I left my phone if the other room, now the Eff-Bee-Eye can't hear me clicking around and typing on the interweb. Dammit all to hell ..........
 
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netpirate

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This is a good tid bit for you guys...

Did you know that your ISP can monitor your pc's internet searches in REAL TIME! Plus some of them work closely with the feds. But like anything else, there are ways to make it very difficult for them.
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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I have cable internet and the bitch at the office is a fat lazy ass. She can't even get up off her butt to accept payments. I really doubt anyone at that company is monitoring anything. Hell they've been out of digital cable boxes for over a year now........
 
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netpirate

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That sucks. Around here the cable service provider is actually really good with C.S and exchanging products. Time Warner. Gotta say though, their prices suck ass BUT I get the hook up! But yeah, they can if they want to. I've seen it first hand and it's sick! Easy and scary to know that it was just 1 employee from the help desk who could get in like that.
 
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SlikWiLL13

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netpirate, you seem to know your shit. i believe in the capabilities, but do you seriously believe they care about most of the growers here?
 
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netpirate

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SlikWiLL13 said:
netpirate, you seem to know your shit. i believe in the capabilities, but do you seriously believe they care about most of the growers here?
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In my humble opinion, Hell No! The D.E.A has better things to do than hit up some .org site looking around for a big time dealer. They give 2 shits for ppl like us. Plus, the internet still has neutrality on it's side. So making a case from a site would be a laugh in court if no refutable evidence was present. So IMO, no. The ppl on marijuana sites are pretty much clear to post and upload pics. But you gotta remember those rogue cops are out there. They take the time to get on the p.c and look for leads via sites. As long as you don't post your addy or anything likeminded in post then it;s safe to say that you are A OK!
 
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