First grow 80 watt cfls. Any advice

scientist88

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This is my first grow. 2 bag seeds one reg and i believe the other is some sort of kush it was real fruity. They are six weeks from sprout. I feed miracle grow succulant plant food and tap water first 3weeks. From there ive been feeding mexican bat guano 10 1 1 slushy. one cup per gallon water. Are they big enough for 6 weeks. Should i flower now because i dont want them taller than 2 feet. Whats a possible yeild for me all estimates would be appreciated. first pic is reg second pic exotic
 

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about a pound bongsmilie


on a serious note,

they look kinda short but as the strains are unknown this could be genetic, as a beginner you should focus on the basic N-P-K nutrients that your plant need, organic is a lot to get wrong. miracle grow is most likely doing you more harm also. 80watt cfl should be fine for plants these small, regardless of light spectrum. now would be a good time to invest on maybe a growth through bloom nutrient formula. Im currently looking at Medi One 4.3.3 formula which is organic, and im hoping to replace my buisy nutrient schedule with this.

Light Schedule?
 
cc2012

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scientist88 said:
This is my first grow. 2 bag seeds one reg and i believe the other is some sort of kush it was real fruity. They are six weeks from sprout. I feed miracle grow succulant plant food and tap water first 3weeks. From there ive been feeding mexican bat guano 10 1 1 slushy. one cup per gallon water. Are they big enough for 6 weeks. Should i flower now because i dont want them taller than 2 feet. Whats a possible yeild for me all estimates would be appreciated. first pic is reg second pic exotic
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Hiya S88, You say Six weeks in from bean? What Size Pot have you got them in? and like jb4 said "how far is your light away?" 80w is not a lot of light by-tha-bye..You probably only just giving em 5000L, which would probably just about be Ok for One(depends) How do you have the Bulb? Horizontally OR Vertically? Horizontal would give you a better spread, and You want to get the bulb about 2-3 inches from Tops of Ladies..do you have a reflector on said Bulb??

STOP with the Feed by the way...IF they are as small as they look in pictures...they don't need..

You are far off Flowering tbh, have you checked tha Root Development...? this is mine at 3 weeks from bean..


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And I'm not expert on this,well on anything really...LoL! Hope You managed to sort and revitalise...

atb

Edit; Nearly forgot..OOps what are your Grow Room/Cupboard conditions like? Temps? Humidity? and Air-flow? got any fans blowing Air around...
 
scientist88

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jb4TWENTY said:
those are 6 weeks old? damn mam somethings not right. how far is your light away? also i wouldnt feed until the coty leaves fall off or die
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the lights were maybe 5 or 6 inches away. I have to 150 watt equivalent which is actually 33 watts each. And a 14 watt bulb. Now that they are closer to the light within a inch they are growing faster. i have them in peat jiffy cups. The exotic is 8 inches with the 5th top coming in. The reg is 5 inches. They look bigger in person
 
Swims_GD

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TBH, I think your over worrying, it takes a while for a plant to grow from seed, as we speak its busy making loads of little highways and fast food networks, its socialising with its surrounding, also to note... on average I've noticed cfl's add 2 weeks onto my pre veg times.

bongsmilie


Feminised Power Plant x African Sativa('s) Hybrid
aprox 120mm tall,
15cm pot
3-4 weeks from sprout
2x20watt CFL 2700k (week 1 24/0, 2nd,3rd week+ 18/0)
Reflector: Cardboard box with Aluminium glued (pva) to the inside
Room Temp: 22-24'c
Humidity: 50-60%
Plant Magic Soil mix with added Perlite
30day (approx.)drip feed mix containing:
0.15%Nitrogen 0.1%Phosphate 0.3%Soluble Potassium 0.01%Magnesium per 50ml of sterile water.
I've only just refilled this bottle, since start all I've had to do is water with ph balanced room temp water. Right now I'm using approx 200ml per watering

Edit. topped 3days ago
 

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xSwimToTheMoon said:
I'd cut the top of that milk jug off. Pots are super cheap dude.

Looks ok from here.
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Agreed.

- I would line that box with an aluminium foil and make a pitched roof shape reflector for the top aswell

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2x 20w cfl's hang inside the box (they've been lifted out for camera purposes)
 
cc2012

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Maybe Check FleaBay or Local Retailer for summat like? this? > > > >


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But yeah you do have to be careful, don't wanna burn ya house down..

atb
 
gardengardian7

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T88, its ALL WRONG! First and foremost... The object is to start your seeds in either 2" or 4" pots so that your plants DEVELOPE STRONG root systems. Start your seeds in a SEED STARTER SOIL MIX. # At the sprouting of the seedling, you at least want to start off with double the amount of lights per plant... In other words you need 5-10,000lumens which would be about 5-8 CFLs at at about 23w, 26w, 32w, etc. That way you can position them either around or between the plants. # Note: Seedlings dont really need NUTRIENTS for the first 21-28 days. The SEED STARTER has proper amount of NUTES already thus TAP WATER has some nutrients that will help keep your plants healthy. Now the bat guano... Did you read the DIRECTIONS because you made me have to double check my own knowledge..lol But you USED A CUP of NITROGEN for your plants. That was by far the WORST MISTAKE a grower can make. There are MANY but that took the birthday cake and hit you in the face with it. NEVER use a CUP of NITROGEN for your plant. This EXPLAINS your STUNTED plants and the YELLOW COLORATION. You wont see a yeild with them in the PROPER AMOUNT of TIME. Those are EQUIVALENT to 1 WEEK and your plants are 6weeks new. Yikes. You didnt do your HOMEWORK. You DID NOT STUDY. It's OK though because WE ALL do something crazy... I spent two months with a plant that had 5 leaves. My wife and I CRACKED up. I still got the piv in my journal. All you need to do is start you some more seeds and we can go through it together and we can get you all the way together. These are my plants at 32 DAYS from seed. They went through some stress today because I had to clean and my 4 splitter decided to act up on me and they had to sit out for a second. Thus I just watered them. They like dry warm air with not much water weighing them down.... You can also CHECK OUT my New Grow thread. Youll like it and you can get knowledge. Unlike most I tell everything I do. Peace and youll get it right. Also i use 10-3-1 B.G. 1/4 strength.IMG_20150317_162207.jpg IMG_20150317_162924.jpg IMG_20150317_170235.jpg IMG_20150317_170409.jpg IMG_20150317_170409.jpg
 
scientist88

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gardengardian7 said:
T88, its ALL WRONG! First and foremost... The object is to start your seeds in either 2" or 4" pots so that your plants DEVELOPE STRONG root systems. Start your seeds in a SEED STARTER SOIL MIX. # At the sprouting of the seedling, you at least want to start off with double the amount of lights per plant... In other words you need 5-10,000lumens which would be about 5-8 CFLs at at about 23w, 26w, 32w, etc. That way you can position them either around or between the plants. # Note: Seedlings dont really need NUTRIENTS for the first 21-28 days. The SEED STARTER has proper amount of NUTES already thus TAP WATER has some nutrients that will help keep your plants healthy. Now the bat guano... Did you read the DIRECTIONS because you made me have to double check my own knowledge..lol But you USED A CUP of NITROGEN for your plants. That was by far the WORST MISTAKE a grower can make. There are MANY but that took the birthday cake and hit you in the face with it. NEVER use a CUP of NITROGEN for your plant. This EXPLAINS your STUNTED plants and the YELLOW COLORATION. You wont see a yeild with them in the PROPER AMOUNT of TIME. Those are EQUIVALENT to 1 WEEK and your plants are 6weeks new. Yikes. You didnt do your HOMEWORK. You DID NOT STUDY. It's OK though because WE ALL do something crazy... I spent two months with a plant that had 5 leaves. My wife and I CRACKED up. I still got the piv in my journal. All you need to do is start you some more seeds and we can go through it together and we can get you all the way together. These are my plants at 32 DAYS from seed. They went through some stress today because I had to clean and my 4 splitter decided to act up on me and they had to sit out for a second. Thus I just watered them. They like dry warm air with not much water weighing them down.... You can also CHECK OUT my New Grow thread. Youll like it and you can get knowledge. Unlike most I tell everything I do. Peace and youll get it right. Also i use 10-3-1 B.G. 1/4 strength.View attachment 3374314 View attachment 3374315 View attachment 3374318 View attachment 3374319 View attachment 3374319
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How much guano should i use per gallon tap water. What stage does guano work best. Ive herd tap water dillute guano more because of the chlorine. If i flush them will the start developing normal
 
gardengardian7

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It just dawned on me the odds: you use MG plant food which is Nutes. BG which is Nutes. And Tap Water which is Nutes. And them babies is still standing. Thats uh... something...
 
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scientist88 said:
How much guano should i use per gallon tap water. What stage does guano work best. Ive herd tap water dillute guano more because of the chlorine. If i flush them will the start developing normal
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what i would is not be concerned with bat guano. I know you dont want to feel like youve waisted time but its best that you found out. Start a few more seeds so yiu can learn the difference. Dont cast them plants out but flush them until you begin seeing clear and just let them dry out70% before you water them again. What i want you to do is READ my NEW GROW thread its got what you need. Even look at the DYING PLANT laying down and see how i brought her back to life. Shes the plant in the very fron of the pics.
 
gardengardian7

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It would depend on the form whether powder or liquid. I never have a problem with tap because i mix with it... And you guys on this thread have great ambition and the tenacity to help except the negative comment. Just different knowledge from different situations of being new growers like myself. So we all can do it together. Im still learning myself.
 
scientist88

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i use mexican bat guano 10-1-1 powder then i mix a cup with a gallon of water. i dont use the whole gallon per plant i been using it every water for the past 2 weeks
 
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