First Grow! Sealed/Closed Room, 2400 watts, CO2, Mini-Split AC, SmartPots, Dehum!

alan whittington said:

Xivex! this be my first post on your thread, i've been reading and watching and now i think it's time to offer my advice as you are going into flowering very soon! this is part of one of my posts when i was discussing technique when where whys and hows. 'As SS420 has stated he likes to Supercrop the plants through vegetative growth and then on flipping to 12/12 give a 24-36 BLACK out period. the black out period cause the plants to jump into the flowering cycle. Upon putting in the flowering room i assume that he then FIMs as he knows the new growth will stretch into one massive bud. What i have gleaned from this is if you want one massive BUSH of a plant. Supercrop, LST, and FIM through vegetative growth. Before flowering wait 2 weeks from any FIMing and let the plants heal. then do as SS420 has done and FIM one last time after the black out period on light change. that away you have tons of buds all stretching into massive colas.'

i think that with your massive plants and all of them currently showing pre-flowers, that if you did this to the ladies they would do more that just explode with bud growth in flowering. The plants would start a 10 day count down to nuclear explosive growth! we all know what HPS lights do to internode space and stretching. so make your stretches pure massive colas! hopefully you like this and if you have any questions i'm reading and watching and waiting! much love to a brotha! and

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Thanks for stopping in Alan! Glad to have ya onboard.

DJ GreenThumb said:

Nice Grow.....I am subbed. Caught on late but read the whole thread. It is very interesting to me because I started my grow about the same time as you did.......organic soil mix, and smart pots. I just moved my girls to the flowering room and flipped them to 12/12. I am growing 11 strains, so I cloned them all to select mothers based on the finished plants.

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Glad to have ya onboard DJ GreenThumb! Sorry just now noticed the post!! I'll have to check out your setup!

UPDATE! DAY 1 of FLOWERING, DAY 61 Total...

So today I FINALLY (Fucking A, right? ) put the girls into flower... I finished ducting my lights in flower, installed the 3 heat shields, setup the timers, moved the ladies in. Today is Day 1 of flowering. All plants are showing pistils. All are like 3 foot + tall. These are some serious leggy long sativas...I don't see anything else in them, and the internodes are fucking humongous, like 5" between them and shit...its crazy. Makes me question my choice of genetics now, especially given a couple of disappointing LSD smoke reports I'd read...

Ah well, live and learn...next time I'll grow the Super Lemon Haze and Utopia Haze beans I have. Anyhow, gonna finish the LSD out in about 60-65 days. Got them flowering under 3-400w Air Cooled Cool Sun 6" reflectors running Hortilux Super HPS 400w lamps on my Lumatek dimmable ballasts. All is going well so far. Set the temp on the mini-split AC to 72 (its probably 8 degrees hotter at the canopy) and the dehumidifier to 45% rH. I still have to install my Sentinel CHHC-4 and the CO2 tank. I'm debating about waiting on the CO2 usage until next grow and just running this one to completion since its my first real grow in this room. Plus I haven't sourced a welding supply shop to refill the CO2 at, I'm sure they are local and not far, but I just haven't done the leg work on it yet. So I don't want to start using Co2 only to run out and not have a place to get it refilled at yet. Plus, the basement has around 500-600ppm CO2 consistently. I've measured it with the Sentintel CHHC-4 a few times now just to see what level of CO2 the ambient air contained..Anyhow I digress...

PS - I didn't do any black out period before flower as I was worried they might herm or something...I don't know. Nor did I top them again as that seemed a bit extreme for a 2nd time. I put them directly into flower from veg (I had shortened the veg days the last 4-5 days or so to ease the transition into flowering and more closely simulate nature...rather than just going 18/6 one day and 12/12 the next....still got em in 3 gallon smart pots. Next time I'll start em in 5 gals, but they are too damn big for me to mess with as far as transplanting so I'm just keeping em in 3 gals this time.

I want to lollipop them after the first 2 weeks of flowering is done. SERIOUS LOLLIPOPPING. I mean chop everything on the first 2 feet except the main colas. I don't want to trim popcorn all fucking day from these leggy ass sativas, I want to focus their growth on the main colas up top and lollipop the rest. What do you think?

Day 1 of flowering is on!!!

PICS COMING TUESDAY!!!! CAN'T WAIT!

Thanks for your patience everyone! FLOWERING IS HERE! THE COUNTDOWN IS ON!!!

X

a good place to look for a welding place is colleges. colleges tend to have welding classes, and the shops should have the co2 you'll need

alan whittington said:

a good place to look for a welding place is colleges. colleges tend to have welding classes, and the shops should have the co2 you'll need

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Great idea man! I'll have to look into that, maybe my alma mater would let me come on by and get a co2 hookup for free or cheapo? Great tip, + REP ALAN! Glad to have ya here man..

find out where the local stores and fast food joints get there co2 refilled for fountain drink machines...call 'em up and go swap out tanks...simple as pie

Namaste'

Illumination said:

find out where the local stores and fast food joints get there co2 refilled for fountain drink machines...call 'em up and go swap out tanks...simple as pie

Namaste'

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I love you guys! I knew there was a reason I messed with this journal thing

Thanks man!

UPDATE! Day 3 of flowering, Day 63 total...

Today I fed the ladies their first flowering nutes. Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom, Cal-Mag+, Silica, Hygrozyme. Also put another 2 Tbsp of granular Mycorrhyzae spores into each pot by using screwdriver holes and pouring 1-2 tsp into various holes around each pot. These myco spores have been amazing. I'm trying to re-inoculate the soil about every 2 weeks with them. This is their first flower inoculation. I'll probably give 2 more, one at 2 weeks, and another at 4 weeks flowering. Then I will quit using this product until next cycle.

So I finally got off my ass and updated! HURRAY! There are now 8 ladies remaining (7 LSD and 1 Jock Horror). They are 3 days into flowering. Running 12/12 with Hortilux Super HPS lamps now. Also, finished ducting the flowering lights so now ALL the lights in the room have sun shields and insulated ducting. Temps from the reflector tops are 78-82 F! Very nice.

Set the mini-split AC to 73F today, dehumidifier to 45% rH. Got 2 oscillating fans in this room..one peaking thru the veg tent pointed at flower, and the other a wall mounted fan. Should keep a nice breeze moving thru the ladies. As I stated before they are just gigantic. I haven't measured, but I need to because the tallest ones are probably 4' now. YIKES! Its hard to even get all of the ladies in one picture now! WOW!

HERE ARE THE PICS!!!

Random shots of flower...



Random shots of several of the tops of the plants..



More random shots, look at how tall this fricking bitch is at the end of these pics...thats a tall kitchen trash can next to her for reference....and she towers above it dominantly!




COMMENTS??? THANKS!!

X

Looking sweet. You better have some headroom buddy cause those things are going to BLAST OFF. Your going to see at least 3" a day for the first 8-10 days.

Make sure you don't have disinfectants in your water..it will kill of the myco.

legallyflying said:

Looking sweet. You better have some headroom buddy cause those things are going to BLAST OFF. Your going to see at least 3" a day for the first 8-10 days.

Make sure you don't have disinfectants in your water..it will kill of the myco.

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Thanks man! I've got plenty of headroom, flower has humongous ceiling space, like 12' I believe. More than I'll need. No disinfectants in my water. Loving these myco granular spores. Thanks for all your help with that LF..I've ordered some Great White and am gonna switch to that from what I'm using now (Plant Success granular myco) for next cycle. Can't wait to try the H&G line next cycle either.

One question... I want to use Bloombastic for my main flowering nute this cycle because I have a bottle of it chillin and I'd like to try that instead of my Fox Farm's flower nutes. I'll still continue using the veg nutes (Big Bloom, Grow Big, will skip Tiger Bloom due to high P content tho) when I switch to Bloombastic, but I want to use Bloombastic as the only high P nute for flower. I've heard you start using it at 2mL/gallon for week 4. Double the dose to 4mL/gallon at week 6 and drop back to half again at week 8. Sound right? Anyone have any experience with Bloombastic?

I ran some Gravity and Snow Storm ultra on my experiment plant I tried before this grow and burnt the holy living shit out of it at week 6, so I don't want to do that to this plant with Bloombastic, thus my questions...

Any advice on BloomBastic?

Thanks,

X

First time seeing this thread and all I can say is that with 2400w, co2, etc., I like your attitude of "Go big or go home!"

budlover13 said:

First time seeing this thread and all I can say is that with 2400w, co2, etc., I like your attitude of "Go big or go home!"

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Thanks budlover13! Glad to have ya checking it out. I haven't hooked up my CO2 yet, I am trying to do it big (at least for me! )..we'll see what type of results I get..stay tuned!

Thanks,

X

Sweet! I'm getting ready to move and will then have the extra bedroom to myself. I've got so many ideas I want to try that it's been a struggle to decide on how my first setup will go together. Trying to stay simple and effective, but there are so many things to try! I plan to set up a small, single plant tent to experiment on so if I screw something up, I'm not wiping out my entire crop.

Hows progress?

Shrubs First said:

Hows progress?

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Today marks 2 weeks flowering. I will be posting pics soon. There are little budlets al over the plants. Jock Horror as usual, looks the best imho. The LSD seems a bit behind the Jock Horror, which might make sense considering the JH is autoflowering, so technically it might have started a week or so ahead of me "flowering" them as I did notice extensive pre-flowering on it while it was still in veg...I'm too new to know about these new autoflowering strains just yet. Either way, they are certainly coming along.

Gonna lollipop the first 2 -3 feet of the plants and then post pics. Sound good?

Shrubs man did you get my PM? I'll resend it.

budlover13 said:

First time seeing this thread and all I can say is that with 2400w, co2, etc., I like your attitude of "Go big or go home!"

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Legit for sure, now we just have to get him to go hydro...

Not that I really care as I'm a big fan of to each his own, but I put re-potted 4 mothers that are in smart pots.. What a fUCKING MESS!. Plus I absolutely hate not knowing whats going on in the pot. PH? i dunno. nutrients left in the soil? beats me. Is it dry on the bottom of the pot? I guess it comes down to I am just not used to it.

Hi Everyone!

UPDATE! Day 16 of Flowering! Day 76 Total...

Two weeks down into flowering, 6-7 to go...LSD is 60-65 day. Not sure about the Jock Horror, will have to look into that soon..

so they are now starting to bud. I haven't seen any hermi sprouts or ballsacks yet which is great news! Had heard bad things about LSD and hermis...fingers crossed!

I found that I was underfeeding them until about 6 days ago. I didn't want to burn them with fucking Tiger Bloom from Fox Farms so I was using too little. I have upped the dose to about 1.5 tsp/gallon and things are starting to develop much faster now. I've seen huge improvements in the budlettes in the last 3-4 days. I was wondering if a couple of them were gonna turn out male with how little flower production they had up until I increased their feed ppm. Now they are happier and the budlettes seem to be developing well.

I'm planning on adding another 2 Tbsp Plant Success granular myco spores in next day or two. I use a long screwdriver and put about 1-2 tsp in various holes around each pot, totalling 2 Tbsp per plant total...seems to be making the plants very very happy! (Been adding them every 2 weeks and will continue through week 4 of flowering.)

I still want to LOLLIPOP THEM! They are too damn big. The bottoms aren't gonna produce shit with the plants being 4-5' tall now and me only having 400w lights. Not enough penetration for the lower plant. Thus, I wanna lollipop the shit outta the bottom 2-3 feet depending on how tall the plant is. I'm scared this might hermi them tho from the stress. Does anyone have any comments on lollipopping and hermis?

Thanks!!! COMMENTS WELCOME!


PICS OF MISCELLANEOUS LSD PLANTS...







Some Group Shots...hard to even get them all in the shot at this point...



Two shots of the Jock Horror autoflowering...she seems about a week ahead of my LSDs and is still the best looking plant in my op IMHO....take a look and see what you think!



COMMENTS? THOUGHTS? IDEAS?

THANKS,

X

Looking to finish this grow up around February 20-25 depending on how the LSD turns out and how long it takes to finish. Hoping to pickup some clones and start from rooted clones for the next grow. Got something in the works, hopefully it pans out!

ON ANOTHER NOTE!~ Just booked my trip to Amsterdam, The Netherlands for the 24th Annual High Times Cannabis Cup (November 20-23, 2011).

http://hightimes.com/public/cancup/

I will be staying a week in the Leidseplein area with a balcony view of the square! Can't wait! If you plan on attending, PM me and we can meetup at a coffeeshop and blaze the fire! I'm dying to try some Tangerine Dream (won the 2010 cup). We'd love to find someone to go clubbing with...after we visit the "smart shop" (google Consicous Dreams amsterdam)!

Send a PM!

xivex said:

Hi Everyone!

UPDATE! Day 16 of Flowering! Day 76 Total...

Two weeks down into flowering, 6-7 to go...LSD is 60-65 day. Not sure about the Jock Horror, will have to look into that soon..

so they are now starting to bud. I haven't seen any hermi sprouts or ballsacks yet which is great news! Had heard bad things about LSD and hermis...fingers crossed!

I found that I was underfeeding them until about 6 days ago. I didn't want to burn them with fucking Tiger Bloom from Fox Farms so I was using too little. I have upped the dose to about 1.5 tsp/gallon and things are starting to develop much faster now. I've seen huge improvements in the budlettes in the last 3-4 days. I was wondering if a couple of them were gonna turn out male with how little flower production they had up until I increased their feed ppm. Now they are happier and the budlettes seem to be developing well.

I'm planning on adding another 2 Tbsp Plant Success granular myco spores in next day or two. I use a long screwdriver and put about 1-2 tsp in various holes around each pot, totalling 2 Tbsp per plant total...seems to be making the plants very very happy! (Been adding them every 2 weeks and will continue through week 4 of flowering.)

I still want to LOLLIPOP THEM! They are too damn big. The bottoms aren't gonna produce shit with the plants being 4-5' tall now and me only having 400w lights. Not enough penetration for the lower plant. Thus, I wanna lollipop the shit outta the bottom 2-3 feet depending on how tall the plant is. I'm scared this might hermi them tho from the stress. Does anyone have any comments on lollipopping and hermis?

Thanks!!! COMMENTS WELCOME!


PICS OF MISCELLANEOUS LSD PLANTS...

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Some Group Shots...hard to even get them all in the shot at this point...

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Two shots of the Jock Horror autoflowering...she seems about a week ahead of my LSDs and is still the best looking plant in my op IMHO....take a look and see what you think!

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COMMENTS? THOUGHTS? IDEAS?

THANKS,

X

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Looks great but you should use more height control IMHHO...topping, lst, supercrop etc.....

Very nice

Namaste'

ps-never even a hint of a herm in any of my lsd's....but I have absolutely no light leaks so that probably helps

first suggestion, pull plants out of room, excavate through the foundation 2', then put plants back in room LOL

Seriously though, I would trim the hell out of the lowers ASAP. Your right, all that shit down low isn't going to produce anything. How are you on space and light in general? It would be nice to spread them out a little or something to maximize light penetration or even out the canopy some how.