First Indoor Soil Grow

baskarz · Dec 20, 2011

Hey all, first time poster, long time reader.
im currently about a week and a half since i switched to 12/12 after about 10 weeks of 18/6 since germinating.
I started with 2 70w metal halides i had floating around and switched to a single 150w hps when i switched to 12/12.
I have been feeding her a blend of seasol and charlie carp since the beginning which has been doing rather well.
A week into 12/12 i started introducing ag-grow bloom while gradually reducing the charlie carp.
All seems to be doing well (besides running out of vertical space and having to gently tie it down and around to make use of the availiable space)
I am a little confused at the moment as she has developed little seed looking things beneath the leaves but some of them have sprouted hairs from the center of these seed looking things. (see pic)
Is it still female, turning male or going hermie?
Thoughts and observations?

Sorry the pics arent in quite the right order but you get the idea :-)

these were taken last night except the 3rd pic was taken tonight

djlifeline · Dec 20, 2011

Looks good but that 2nd pic the big lump think sticking out is a banana (hermie). It looks ready to explode so unless want seeds? I would GENTLY pull it off without popping it. No easy task. And inspect carefully everything and pull of any more you see.

baskarz · Dec 20, 2011

Dang it, hoping that wasnt the case.
So if i go over it and gently remove all those pods, will it be ok?
I had a look this morning and can only see maybe a couple that have the one hair sticking out, but there are several more pods around that havent anything poking out yet.
Are they potential seed pods?
I did have an accident with it about 4 weeks ago where i was tying the 2 main stems down and tugged a little too hard and split the main stem about 2", i immediately taped it back together and it has seemed fine since.
Do you think this bit of stress caused this problem? Or could it be due to some other factor?

Pat the stoner · Dec 20, 2011

One easy way to tell female from male is that the little pods have a tiny stem connecting them to the plant on males - plus they are more round . On females they are more pear shaped and will grow 2 hairs out of the tip of the pod , on females the pod also connects directly with no little stem . Hermies can be produced by having an inconsistant light schedule or it can just be a genetic trait . There may be other ways but these are the ones I know .

Finshaggy · Dec 20, 2011

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baskarz · Dec 21, 2011

Well i took it out of the cupboard and thoroughly went thru and picked off as many of the pods as i could find.
From what i have seen with these pods, most of the ones i had found had the tiny stems as pat mentioned but there were also ones which were connected directly to the stem. I only pulled off the tiny stemmed pods at this stage and will keep a close eye on the rest over the next few days or so.
I will probably persist with this one but if it all goes pear shaped, i do have 2 more plants outside which are quite happy at the moment, one of which is a bit of a wild experiment where i have topped it like 3 times and fimmed one part :-P

Corso312 · Dec 21, 2011

they will grow back..those were weeks away from popping any pollen out anyway, i would remove the hermie altogether and cull it...take some cuttings and make some clones off your confirmed females.good luck

Sunbiz1 · Dec 21, 2011

baskarz said:
Well i took it out of the cupboard and thoroughly went thru and picked off as many of the pods as i could find.
From what i have seen with these pods, most of the ones i had found had the tiny stems as pat mentioned but there were also ones which were connected directly to the stem. I only pulled off the tiny stemmed pods at this stage and will keep a close eye on the rest over the next few days or so.
I will probably persist with this one but if it all goes pear shaped, i do have 2 more plants outside which are quite happy at the moment, one of which is a bit of a wild experiment where i have topped it like 3 times and fimmed one part

Pic 2 looks like a straight male, are there pistils on that plant?. Stress will cause plants to self-pollinate, but I can't tell by your close-up on that. Regardless, that plant should be by itself somewhere.

wolfpack4ever · Dec 21, 2011

yea buddy it looks like to me that u have a hermie, I would remove it from your room asap before you pollinate any of your females if u have any in there

baskarz · Dec 22, 2011

I dont have any other plants, thats the only one in that box. My other 2 are outdoors and will stay there til they are done so they are safe.
Being it is hermie, could i just continue plucking off the pods and still get a little bud from it? Just seems a shame to pull it up, at this point im not worried if its not the greatest buds ever.
I am planning my next indoor grow already but would like a little something to get me by :-)

thanks peeps!

baskarz · Dec 22, 2011

Here's a couple of pics i took just now. There doesn't appear to be any seed pods in the bud sites and from what i can see if i see correctly, is an ok looking bud developing?
What do you guys think?

baskarz · Jan 11, 2012

bit of an update.
didnt have the heart to cull the hermie, so i have been dilligently checking every day and pluckin banana pods.
it will be day 42 of 12/12 today so probably not much longer to go, im guessing anywhere between 2 to 4 weeks?

coupla pics, sorry the closeup isnt to great, bad lighting.
I dont think it looks too bad for a hermie! :-)

baskarz · Jan 27, 2012

well i sampled a small bud off this thing yesterday( i accidentally snapped one off while moving it a week ago) i did a bit of a quick dry and while it was not ready it still gave me a buzz.
i reckon im a week away from chop down and i havent had any more pollen sacks show up in the last 3 weeks so even tho it was a hermie, i will still get some reasonable buds.
its only for me so i dont care if its not the best bud ever :-P

will post some pics in the next couple of days, there are some good fat buds on it and fairly dense too!
lots of brown hairs everywhere now so yeah, 1 more week i reckon! :-)

baskarz · Jan 27, 2012

took some pics this morning just after lights out.
looking at it closer now, i think it may have maybe 2 weeks or so to go.
what do u guys think?

Ringsixty · Jan 27, 2012

2 more weeks... :leaf:

slim83 · Jan 27, 2012

looks to me like you still have a while to go the hairs haven't even started to turn they are all still white the only way to know for sure is to get a 30x loupe and check the trichomes

baskarz · Jan 27, 2012

thanks guys, i figured a couple more weeks. there are some hairs here and there that have turned brown but yeah mostly white still :-)

baskarz · Mar 18, 2012

Harvested a few weeks ago now. Got 82 grams dry

dried for a week then in the jars they went.
Smelt and tasted pretty ordinary after 1 week in jars but its been 2 weeks now and it is starting to smell and taste better.
I like the stone it gives me, sort of creeps up after about 15min and is a nice cruisy high I reckon.
Mates think its not bad so I'm happy with the outcome.
I made a lot of mistakes throughout this grow (light leaks, heat, veg for too long, split the stem while lst etc...) but I have learnt a lot and my next grows can only get better

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