First time Ever Grow Hydro

All looks good to me, I guess they are stretched but if you have your light close then theres not much you can do about it, and they probably wont grow much more height now. Hopefully they wont topple over with the weight of the bud, you might have to stake them up if that starts to happen. You nutes look pretty good, If they are done stretching you can completely cut out the Grow and switch over to the bloom. Are you using RO water? Does your Bloom formula have calcium and magnesium in it? If your using tap water and your nutes have calcium and magnesium in them already then you can go easy on the Cal/Mag, or possibly even cut that out. Depends on the initial ppm of your tap water and what your nutes have in them though.

I know you can slowly start to bring your ppm's up a bit during the middle of flower and then taper off near the end. but I can't give you exact numbers

what is the hydroplex?

I would be very surprised if I had to stake them down. The stems are very thick and sturdy and a lot of big buds would have to bend them. My buds don't look like they will get very big, but that comes with a stretch plant I guess. Using RO water, hydroplex is a bloom booster. Will check on the cal/mag in it. See that is where I get lost, cause it could just be a little in there or a lot. That amount is what I don't understand in each N-P-K formula. What ppm range should I be in right now? That is why I was hoping some one would look at them and say my plants need something and that would bring my ppm's up to the desired amount (what ever that might be).

Most growers on here from what I can tell like to play it safe with their plants and shy away from high PPM, so unless you're seeing a deficiency (which you're not), then you probably won't have too many people telling you that you need to up your PPM. If you want to push them more you can try to bring it up a little just be very mindfull of burn and bring it down some when you see it. I think by doing some math you could figure out the desired Cal/Mag amounts. your cal/mag will tell you how much % of each is in the bottle. The makers of the cal/mag probably assume your adding their product to a solution that is very low if not void of calcium and magnesium, so the recommended dose on the bottle of cal/mag should be a close approximation of how much cal/mag you need in your solution. If you then check the Calcium and Magnesium % on the other products you can determine if you are getting the desired % already in your Base Nutes/additives. Youll have to do some calculations of course to compensate for the different ml/L(or tsp/gallon) of each product. This is just what I would do, but don't take it as garanteed truth

Makes sense bro. Will work on that tomorrow. ++rep

OldLuck said:

what are your ppm in flower?

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well it depends on the strain, the good thing with hydro is things happen fast so you see results immediatly, i would say when you start to flower, keep them at around 800ppm, (they should be strong enough at this point to handle the ppm) id say end of first week when they have settled into their new environment you can slightly increase the ppm with every res change, unless you see adverse effects then stop doing what you did or lighten up, you can go as high as 1600 during flower, i dont go above 1300ppm (safe Zone while mature in flower) for the most part and only during the last 2 weeks will i up the nutes a bit (1600ish) then flush for 4-7 days with water, change water everyday while flushing as it will accumulate nutrients from the medium used.. then dry cure smoke, rather rinse repeat!

Thanks smoke.

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Thanks for stopping by Kev. How do they look to you?

What is the minimum amount of humidity you can be at in flower that won't hurt the plants. I'm between 22-30 percent all the time. Is that to low?

Are your leaves drooping? If not then your good. It depends on a number of things actually, if you raise your temperature and keep your humidy that low then you will have a problem which will be indicated by the leaves quickly becoming drooped. also if you run co2 you can get away with a lower humidity because the stomatas can partially close with higher co2 thus slowing down the evaporation of moisture from the leaves.

The good thing is that your safe from mold with such a low RH but because you have to lower your temperature your plants wont be able to grow as fast, this is the benefit of CO2 boosting, you can bring your temperature up, increase the plants metabolism and not dry the plant out. You can also use more lighting without worrying about over-heating the plants

No drooping leaves. 82/70 hi/low What is a good percent for humidity to be at when flowering? I do feel like my buds are growing slower then everyone else. How can you tell if a plant needs co2? The leaves are a dark green (not to green), but my buds are nothing close to the sizes of other 3 week old plants. They don't seem under fed, but being new at this I guess I'm not feeding them what they really need. And plus I'm sure stretched plants don't bud very well anyway.

whats the strain your using or is it a bag seed grow? some plant flowering period can very drastically from plant to plant. take a full body shot and post it.

Just bag seed, prolly a outdoor long flower one. I'm just a little frustrated in how it is flowering. Does low humidity slow the flowering process down? Like 30% or below?

OldLuck said:

Just bag seed, prolly a outdoor long flower one. I'm just a little frustrated in how it is flowering. Does low humidity slow the flowering process down? Like 30% or below?

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not that Ive heard, most people say they would kill to have low RH like that, most people have a hard time keeping RH down, and mold is always a threat with high RH.

That being said it can slow the plant down. Low RH can slow down CO2 exchange because the stomatas must close to prevent the plant from drying out. Be very carefull if you decide to bring the RH up you dont want to lose your crop to mold. By having the RH between 40-50 the plants stomatas can open up a little more allowing for more exchange of CO2. There is a strong relationship between the proper balance of RH, Temperature, CO2, and Light. Learned all that in grade 10 biology.

Wow pickle, I wish I could remember anything from the 10 th grade. lol I do understand the role of rh and the understanding of the basic functions of how temp, co2 and light all play there roles in the strong relationship to the plant, but what I don't know is what limits each play to change the out come of the plant? I'm always hearing how you should have low humidity in flowering but no one has never said what is to low of humidity and this is what it does? Then on the other hand I see all these sexy bud shots and there humidity is 40-65% and they are just so full of life that they could burst. Stuff like that still gets me confused a lot. I know genetics play a big role also, and this is far from being sold at seed banks. Maybe I'm just being to hard on myself since it seems like I have been spending all my free time looking or moving or changing something around to make her a little more comfy. I will post up 4 week pixs in two days. You guys let me know if you see some good or bad changes. My tall girl is still getting taller but hopefully it is all bud. She is trying to recover from her light burn, but if that wouldn't of happen I wonder that would change my opinion. Well enough rambling, but thanks to all that is helping me through my 1st grow. RIU rocks on so many levels!!

Im personally impressed that your plants are still alive for a first time grower I think your doing fine. Maybe you should browse through some of the "Help my plant is DYING" type threads a little to get a boost in confidence!

Of course you want to maximise your yeild thats understandable, so do I. If your only at 4th week though you still have alot more bud developement to come. It's in the last couple weeks that the plant really pumps out the bud. Perhaps your plants would benefit from a slight increase in RH. 40% should be good, Mold is the last thing you want to happen to your crop. 55% might bring more bud growth but its taking a big chance with mold. Also Ive read that mites and other pests love extremely dry conditions. If you have a sativa dominant with more fluffy buds you can actually get away with higher RH, if you have a strain that produces extremely tight nugs then you really do need to keep your RH low because the RH inside those buds will be higher than the rest of the room.

Well everything is pretty much running by itself. To me the plants look pretty healthy. My ph always stays 5.8-5.9 and I'm up to 950 ppm. My tallest plant with the burned main cola is recovering pretty good. Please let me know what you guys think about my 2 stretched girls. How much further a long do you guys think they should be at the beginning of there 4th week of flower?

looking real good man, those buds are getting fat. Watch the N though looks like your pushing pretty close to the claw(really dark green leaves). Double plus if you lower your N you can up the P and K which the plant uses more of now for making flowers. They dont even look all that stretched though they are pretty tall. Your main colas are gunna be fat by the looks of it

Thanks bro for all of your support. I am now in the process of trying to take out the N, but it seems like all my products have N in them. This is my first time seeing buds at this stage and they just don't look right to me, but I wouldn't know. I hope they do pack on size this month. Does it look a 10-11 week plant to you?

OldLuck said:

Thanks bro for all of your support. I am now in the process of trying to take out the N, but it seems like all my products have N in them. This is my first time seeing buds at this stage and they just don't look right to me, but I wouldn't know. I hope they do pack on size this month. Does it look a 10-11 week plant to you?

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Hard for me to say but I would guess more a 9-10 week, look how broad those leaves are, but thats just a guess. Hows she smell now?