Flushing before harvest is Bro Science!

@Gregshed really

Gregshed said:

Talking about flushing must be the quickest way to identify yourself as a total retard in a room full of farmers and growers.

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Gregshed said:

Are you trying to look retarded?

Doing a great job of that.

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What's your deal with using the retard word? You're in your 40s... Pathetic. Chill out.

calvin.m16 said:

retard

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Chill with this word

reported

This is a fake study

it's not peer-reviewed
it's only published at their own site or grower-forums but nowhere at conventional science orgs
its format doesnt even adhere to real scientific studies

Kassiopeija said:

This is a fake study

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Plot Twist!

They want you feeding until the end for the extra sales on nutrients lmfao.

it has NO declaration of conflict of interest. why? it's a nitrient brand company making a study on nutrients using their own nutrients !!!

calvin.m16 said:

Plot Twist!

They want you feeding until the end for the extra sales on nutrients lmfao.

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yeah and they arrive at that assessment by totally subjective reasons : own testers doing a "taste" test

Kassiopeija said:

it has NO delaration of conflict of interest. why? it's a nitrient brand company making a study on nutrients using their own nutrients !!!

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I was waiting for someone to catch on. Some people get so angry and don't want to have a discussion anymore.

Not to mention the guy in the video to the left looked like he took a sleeping pill before the meeting and was looking at a blank pad of paper acting like he's doing some really important stuff.

the evidence presented is also conflicting: how come that a flushed plant has increased mineral content...? as if said minerals can be gathered out of nothing

Kassiopeija said:

the evidence presented is also conflicting: how come that a flushed plant has increased mineral content...? as if said minerals can be gathered out of nothing

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Yeah and they tried saying the flushing increased* Zinc and their charts are made probably by someone from Fiverr. lol

Basically doing everything in their power to convince their clients to feed to end to push more nutrients?

Funny that their feed chart recommends a flush week 8.

Kassiopeija said:

it's not peer-reviewed
it's only published at their own site or grower-forums but nowhere at conventional science orgs
its format doesnt even adhere to real scientific studies

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Heres another

With same results

bk78 said:

Heres another

With same results

https://atrium.lib.uoguelph.ca/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10214/12125/Stemeroff_Jonathan_201712_Msc_with_erratum.pdf?sequence=8&isAllowed=y

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you are missing the point.

I have not criticised the results, but the way these informations have been acquired.

and this is why it has not been published somewhere else

Kassiopeija said:

you are missing the point.

I have not criticised the results, but the way these informations have been acquired.

and this is why it has not been published somewhere else

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You’re missing the point I think?

Kassiopeija said:

it's not peer-reviewed
it's only published at their own site or grower-forums but nowhere at conventional science orgs
its format doesnt even adhere to real scientific studies

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Kassiopeija said:

the evidence presented is also conflicting: how come that a flushed plant has increased mineral content...? as if said minerals can be gathered out of nothing

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I was curious about this too, I suspect it has to do with osmotic regulation in the absence of incoming salts in the feed.

somebody needs to be a true bro and make a study with 20 clones 10 vs10 flush no flush all same clones

Rurumo said:

I was curious about this too, I suspect it has to do with osmotic regulation in the absence of incoming salts in the feed.

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plant probably had used everything expect that and a lot of that is left. thats why there is "more of some minerals"

Kassiopeija said:

the evidence presented is also conflicting: how come that a flushed plant has increased mineral content...? as if said minerals can be gathered out of nothing

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So a flushed plant had higher mineral content = flushing doesn't work. I thought that was the point.

yea but 7 day flush had some stuff more than others XD one of them even had more thc. nothing to do with both plants waiting to be sent together by post its dryer and has "more" thc per gram

amneziaHaze said:

somebody needs to be a true bro and make a study with 20 clones 10 vs10 flush no flush all same clones

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The problem is, the results still rely on "taste tests" so it would still be arbitrary. I'm not going to get into another flushing thread beyond saying I agree with the results of this study, simply because it matches up with my personal experience and that of my mentor and close friends who are excellent growers. I like to reduce my EC towards the end of flower, particularly the Nitrogen content in the last two weeks, but I keep up the K because the final weeks are when they pack on weight. Seeing my strongest branches fall over in the last week prior to harvest is one of the sure signs of ripening. Flushing is one of those ideas that make horticulturists roll their eyes, just like pre-germination, dumping boiling water on your roots at harvest, pounding nails into your stalk, along with any number of other bro-science practices. It's one of those things that people believe in because they were taught to grow that way and they've never tried anything different. I've flushed the hell out of many a plant back in the day and never noticed a difference between a flushed plant and an unflushed plant. Running high EC and poor drying practices have the most noticeable impact on final quality in my experience.