For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users

HomeLessBeans said:
1.8 seems a little hot. Are u using RO water. If so u prob did not need the mag. Let ur ph come up a bit 6.2 - 6.5 those are still saveable

Grab some drip clean from house n garden and do a flush. Start back easy on the nutez.
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thanx for the reply HomeLessBeans.

no RO just tap water which is pretty hard where I live - 0.50 - 0.55.
AFAIK Canna Aqua is not made for RO water.
I'm topping rez with plain water for the last 3 days to keep in under 1.8
Why drip clean instead of Florakleen?
And what is the point of letting PH go that high (6.2-6.5)? I always thought that 5,8 is optimal for hydro.
 
last first. Plants up-take nutes at different PH levels.. think like a buffet on an elevator. yum turkey at 5.3..ohhhh steak at 6.0.. thats PH drift in a nut shell

Drip clean is the most outstanding cleaner on the market. I think even big Mike from advanced admitted that.

yeah drain your rez and do a flush when this type of thing happens.. I would use strait water and drip clean,PH'd of course probaly a day or two. drain and start over I'm running GH at about 1.4 Different nutes can run at different ppm's same with plants some are more sensitive than others. My NL#5 and Ionic nutes 2.0 no prob

real water with app nutes need no cal/mg IME..

and you are welcome
beans
 
Looks like big time lockout causing at least a N deficiency to me. You did not say if you did a weekly flush during your grow or not,this is crucial. I flush by hand each bucket with about 2 gallons of clearex mixture pouring over the top. You can use the system to do the flush but if you think about it after the first cycle you are just send the same shit back up to the plants. After pouring the clearex solution I follow with a good dousing of straight water. If you are going to run your nutes that hot you better flush every week to 10 days religiously. I have to disagree with the calmag statement,I run calmag as soon as I start feeding nutes all the way to finish. I also ALWAYS throw in a half strength mixture of calmag into my clearex solution,this was recommended to me by a large commercial grower that I highly respect. He told me stripping the roots entirely with a flushing solution is not good for the plants except for the final pre-harvest flush. Just my 2 cents but I have had ridiculous success following this regimen.
 
teeo9111 said:
Looks like big time lockout causing at least a N deficiency to me. You did not say if you did a weekly flush during your grow or not,this is crucial. I flush by hand each bucket with about 2 gallons of clearex mixture pouring over the top. You can use the system to do the flush but if you think about it after the first cycle you are just send the same shit back up to the plants. After pouring the clearex solution I follow with a good dousing of straight water. If you are going to run your nutes that hot you better flush every week to 10 days religiously. I have to disagree with the calmag statement,I run calmag as soon as I start feeding nutes all the way to finish. I also ALWAYS throw in a half strength mixture of calmag into my clearex solution,this was recommended to me by a large commercial grower that I highly respect. He told me stripping the roots entirely with a flushing solution is not good for the plants except for the final pre-harvest flush. Just my 2 cents but I have had ridiculous success following this regimen.
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thanks for your response
I did flush during grow . Not weekly but within 10 days period.
Up until 4 weeks ago when it was like 2 weeks between.
I guess you right about lockout. I went too high on nutes from the start due at first to defect ec tester.
But they recovered nicely at the time.
I've done 2 days flushing( with calmag shot - thx for the tip) and they are on a 1.4 EC / Ph 5.8 now for 2 days.
Everything is stable though if they will not show some improvement this week I gonna chop them.
Bit shame really but I consider this to be a test run of self made system it's ok.
Looked how things are working together / learned few things.

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bought the cap ebb monster haven't fired it up yet waiting for it to cool down.. is there still problems with the these models or did they work out the kinks?
 
Hey I just got the 12 pot system, Is there anything I should know about running Flora Nova grow/bloom in this system with all the additives? or is it just not smart to use the additives like diamond nectar? I have 2 airstones in my 55 gal. Just wondering what people recomendations on the best nutes for this system are. Also thinking about House and garden aqua flakes
 
GreenDyl said:
Hey I just got the 12 pot system, Is there anything I should know about running Flora Nova grow/bloom in this system with all the additives? or is it just not smart to use the additives like diamond nectar? I have 2 airstones in my 55 gal. Just wondering what people recomendations on the best nutes for this system are. Also thinking about House and garden aqua flakes
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I find technofloras bc line is the cleanest and easyest to use in it! Must be why you get a starter pack with the purchase
of the unit.
 
Watch your barrel and control pot for salts and residue. I reccomend drip clean from H&G no matter which nute you use. I've used both of the mentioned brands. First time try to go light with the additives. That's where the nute companies make their coin.

Come on in the water is fine!!!

Beans
 
Yeah I know what you are sayin, Would like to try a bloom booster and a hardener this time around you know? Any suggestions on them? I think I am gonna go with flora nova bloom because that is basically the same thing as the lucas formula or whatever. With drip clean do you use it every time you change the res?
 
Bbbbbiiiiiiigg fan of Lucas. I've used Koolbloom, bloombastic, shooting powder. All are dangerous so use very sparingly. I heard ;) even bigmike from advanced admitted S. Powder was better than his. At that time.

Drip clean anytime I add water. I flush with it.

Good genetics. Good nutes. And you really do not need all of the snake oil.IMHO ;)
 
I think Im gonna go with just flora nova bloom for my base, some rapid root for rooting, Still deciding on a bloom booster but probably gonna use like shooting powder and bud xl, then thinking about using gravity for a hardener. Any thoughts on this?
 
you do not want to mix anything with the shooting powder.this shit will kill your room!!!!

.and even with the newer papers out on gravity I would not use it. or any 'hardener'
 
GreenDyl said:
Yeah I know what you are sayin, Would like to try a bloom booster and a hardener this time around you know? Any suggestions on them? I think I am gonna go with flora nova bloom because that is basically the same thing as the lucas formula or whatever. With drip clean do you use it every time you change the res?
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Try moab........
 
fasho fasho... Really Im just trying to pull 2 lbs off 12 plants in a 4x8 tent with a 12 site ebb and grow. Maybe I should just use flora nova bloom?
 
GreenDyl said:
fasho fasho... Really Im just trying to pull 2 lbs off 12 plants in a 4x8 tent with a 12 site ebb and grow. Maybe I should just use flora nova bloom?
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just try for the best 12 plants you can get in a 4x8..and yes keep it simple the first run or two.. 2 lb 12 pots x 1200 watts = .75 gpw not impossible without fancy smancy additives
 
I used flora nova bloom (Lucas formula) in an ebb and gro for several cycles and eventually abandoned it because it was too low in Nitrogen to keep the lower leaves from dying out late in bloom. I had very good results running a 50/50 floranove bloom and grow mix and also did well with the new GH 2 part GO stuff.
 
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