Fragile back at it. DIY RDWC with the things.

fragileassassin

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So I got the males gone, they were swelling up fast.
Transferred the other 3 over to the flower tent last night. Pretty crazy the difference a week under the LEDs made over the T5s.
The front right plant I cut up a bunch for clones that's why it's so small.
Have a weird issue in the system. 2 of my buckets cracked around the fittings. I have an idea to fix it without pulling the buckets out.
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oKanenas

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Lovely work, really enjoying seeing new updates

How you transfer the seedlings from the aero-type buckets into the big-ass netpots?
Asking because, its a pain in the ass for my dwc bucket style setup, to start seeds directly into small rockwool and big netpots after. They are usually going slow and stressed until roots reach out of the net pot
 

fragileassassin

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Lovely work, really enjoying seeing new updates

How you transfer the seedlings from the aero-type buckets into the big-ass netpots?
Asking because, its a pain in the ass for my dwc bucket style setup, to start seeds directly into small rockwool and big netpots after. They are usually going slow and stressed until roots reach out of the net pot
In the cloner, theyre just in small neoprene inserts. I leave them in the cloner until the roots touch the water at least. When theyre old enough, I just pop the insert up and carefully pull the plants up out of the collars.
Then I feed the roots through a small hole I cut in the bottoms of my pots. I hold the plant with the roots through the hole and fill in around them with hydroton. The transplant rips some roots off, but theyre old enough that it doesnt matter much. This has made the transition into the full system soooooo much easier and faster and I highly recommend doing it like this is you can.

Here's some pics from the first time I did it like this last winter.
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fragileassassin

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Put this off for longer than I wanted to, but got my support in and got them spread out a bit.
Last heavy defoliation they will get. I'll give them 1 more week and trim up some of the scraggly shit at the bottoms. Pretty much everything that doesnt get at least close to the fencing will get cut off.
They're starting to show some signs of pre-flowers!
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Airwalker16

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Put this off for longer than I wanted to, but got my support in and got them spread out a bit.
Last heavy defoliation they will get. I'll give them 1 more week and trim up some of the scraggly shit at the bottoms. Pretty much everything that doesnt get at least close to the fencing will get cut off.
They're starting to show some signs of pre-flowers!
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Is that super even spread out branching solely from you planting your clones in sideways, like laying down against the edge basically?
 

fragileassassin

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Is that super even spread out branching solely from you planting your clones in sideways, like laying down against the edge basically?
I tied the main stems down and topped them somewhere 6-8 nodes depending on the plant then just bent and super cropped stuff to where I wanted it to go. I did a lot of the super cropping on young enough branches that you can barely tell I did it and I didnt even use the screen this time around. Each plant was only topped once except for the poor one in the front right that I took around a dozen clones from. Aside from that, the heavy defoliation I do seems to really promote branch growth in veg.

The right side of the tent is now just salvage what I can, but im super happy with how the plants on the left have turned out so far. They were the better 3 of those 6 to start with.

I post nearly every interaction with the plants, so I dont even mess with them all that often imo.
 

Cannademik

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Any tips on getting quicker roots in my aerocloner? I'm just using straight tap water right now. 1on/15off . I finally saw some roots, maybe like 1-2 roots on 2 clones out of 12. Its in a 27 gallon tote, tap water, (2) 23watt cfls in the tent.
 

fragileassassin

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Any tips on getting quicker roots in my aerocloner? I'm just using straight tap water right now. 1on/15off . I finally saw some roots, maybe like 1-2 roots on 2 clones out of 12. Its in a 27 gallon tote, tap water, (2) 23watt cfls in the tent.
I've had great luck with tap water, 1/4 strength calimagic, and the dyna-gro KLN and pro-tekt combo at recommend rates. Cloner water ends up right around 180ppm

15/15 off to keep water temps under 80F.
I dont change the water unless something is wrong or I'm doing the next set.
My tap water is really low ppm so I do a 1/4 dose of calimagic.
My cloner is in a small tent that I keep closed most of the time and I attempt to keep that tent above 60% humidity. I give them a good spray down with a bottle of tap water once or twice a day.
In my experience so far, if the stems of your cut are hollow, itll root very slow if at all.
Most of mine start pushing roots in 7-8 days.
 

Cannademik

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Ah... some of the bigger clones I took are hollow :( Maybe I can retry on my next seeds popped.. It does seem the smaller clones I took are showing roots.
 

fragileassassin

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Ah... some of the bigger clones I took are hollow :( Maybe I can retry on my next seeds popped.. It does seem the smaller clones I took are showing roots.
now this is not to say that hollow ones wont root, one of my fastest ones in this batch was one of the biggest I took but some of the other hollow ones are the slowest so far. I still dont really have the selection part figured out so I just take 50% more than I need to root and make sure to take them from a bunch of different places and vary their sizes.
 

Cannademik

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now this is not to say that hollow ones wont root, one of my fastest ones in this batch was one of the biggest I took but some of the other hollow ones are the slowest so far. I still dont really have the selection part figured out so I just take 50% more than I need to root and make sure to take them from a bunch of different places and vary their sizes.
For sure.. I'll just let em keep going. It has only been 12 days so far.. Ill just keep an eye on them.
 

fragileassassin

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So another part of the veg system works as intended. Only took about 20 mins to swap out 2 buckets with new ones. Just gotta throw some silicone on it when I get home tonight.
Still not sure why the buckets cracked. Those 2 were closer to the edge and I drilled through a stamp melted into the bottom on both. Luckily I had extra buckets. Not sure why theyd crack now after a year.
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Axion42

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Thise kinds of pics scare me in rdwc, I have a float valve hooked to my res if my shit ever cracked like that I'd be so screwed. I dont visit my grow for up to 3 days sometimes..:mad:
 

fragileassassin

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Thise kinds of pics scare me in rdwc, I have a float valve hooked to my res if my shit ever cracked like that I'd be so screwed. I dont visit my grow for up to 3 days sometimes..:mad:
These 2 were really close to the edge of the bucket, I drilled the new ones a little further in. How its hooked up causes it to flex some and I guess it just didnt like it. I inspected the other 10 and they were fine.
I let this leak for a month. Was just a small puddle to shop vac up every couple days.
 

Airwalker16

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I've had great luck with tap water, 1/4 strength calimagic, and the dyna-gro KLN and pro-tekt combo at recommend rates. Cloner water ends up right around 180ppm

15/15 off to keep water temps under 80F.
I dont change the water unless something is wrong or I'm doing the next set.
My tap water is really low ppm so I do a 1/4 dose of calimagic.
My cloner is in a small tent that I keep closed most of the time and I attempt to keep that tent above 60% humidity. I give them a good spray down with a bottle of tap water once or twice a day.
In my experience so far, if the stems of your cut are hollow, itll root very slow if at all.
Most of mine start pushing roots in 7-8 days.
I use straight up 0ppm RO water
 

fragileassassin

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I use straight up 0ppm RO water
but how long do you let it stay 0ppm?
Ive just found that to be a good balance. Its not too much for them to start on, but its enough for them for several weeks of growth before they start looking hungry. So I can just leave it alone from cut to transplant.
 
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