Gastanker's 600+w Organic UV Grow

Back to the plants -

Ordered 8 18" 10.0 UVA/UVB bulbs for flowering

Foliar fed three a bat guano tea yesterday - they received smaller initial amounts of guano and bone meal so I thought I should dose em up.

Will top feed next watering for the last time. Will be 4 parts 1-11-0 bone meal 1 part 6-9-0 bone meal and 3 parts 1-10-0.2 bat guano. They will be watered with bat guano tea 50/50 10-3-1 and 1-10-0.2 along with cal mag. Later in flower i'll be adding a 1-0-2 kelp meal to replace the 10-3-1 bat guano

Hey tanker is your auto watering system drain to waste or just timed perfectly? I need some deets asap so I can get buildin me a setup so I don't have to worry about my bitches. Haha thanks man, and mad mad mad props amazing plants I see bountiful harvests in our futures. Are all your plants sexed?? And man I promise check tommorow afternoon for pics if they aren't up by 3 pm cali time pm me cuz it'll email my cell and ill go to my girls house.

mrorganics said:

Hey tanker is your auto watering system drain to waste or just timed perfectly? I need some deets asap so I can get buildin me a setup so I don't have to worry about my bitches. Haha thanks man, and mad mad mad props amazing plants I see bountiful harvests in our futures. Are all your plants sexed?? And man I promise check tommorow afternoon for pics if they aren't up by 3 pm cali time pm me cuz it'll email my cell and ill go to my girls house.

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Will definitely give them a look - about time

My watering is just timed well. The smaller plants tend to drip a bit out of the bottoms but it is all soaked up by the plants in the smart pots - kinda ensures the bases of the larger plants are evenly watered. I sat with a measuring cup for the 7 minutes the pump runs for to make sure the right amount comes out of each sprinkler for the size of the plant.

Cut two clones today from one of the Chocolope. These will be going under 12/12 in a separate area and will be undergoing colloidal silver therapy.

Gastanker said:

Cut two clones today from one of the Chocolope. These will be going under 12/12 in a separate area and will be undergoing colloidal silver therapy.

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What in the hell is that!? Lol. I have a dixie cup that I just threw in for shits to see how much I could pull from her. Hoping to get at least a quarter from her, shes like 5 inches tall and nice n healthy. Start getting nutes start tomorrow. One Love,

PS,
your plants look so fucking healthy lol. Can not wait for bud shots in your crazy ass room lol.

Oh yeah I noticed your hood looks very similar to mine. Are you venting it? Its open on one end thats why I was curious cuz I have yet to get a vent fan but when I do itll be a 6" vortex inline. Thanks!

Allday06 said:

What in the hell is that!? Lol. I have a dixie cup that I just threw in for shits to see how much I could pull from her. Hoping to get at least a quarter from her, shes like 5 inches tall and nice n healthy. Start getting nutes start tomorrow. One Love,

PS,
your plants look so fucking healthy lol. Can not wait for bud shots in your crazy ass room lol.

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Colloidal silver is a silver ion solution that causes plants to produce the flowering structures of the opposite sex. By forcing a female plant to produce pollen I end up with all female pollen. When you pollinate a female (XX) with female pollen (XX) you guarantee that all of the resulting plants will also be female as there is no Y sex gene to be passed along. I'll have to take a look at that dixie cup plant - i've always wanted to do a small cup grow but with the low plant limits have a hard time justifying it to myself

Allday06 said:

Oh yeah I noticed your hood looks very similar to mine. Are you venting it? Its open on one end thats why I was curious cuz I have yet to get a vent fan but when I do itll be a 6" vortex inline. Thanks!

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Yes the hood is being vented. I have a 6" 440 CFM fan mounted on the wall beside the tent. The fan is running at the lowest setting and temps in the tent are around 65 degrees with lights on. When plants start to smell a bit more I will strap my carbon filter to the open end of the hood and up the fan speed.

I'm experimenting with some party cups in my grow...Went from 31 seeds to 6 females over the course of the grow. Just for personal use, so I figured it'd be a good learning exercise.

Tanker: Those plants look OUTSTANDING! My Grape looked like that in veg, now it's doing awesome! The star of my closet! I think your room is FULL of celebs

Signed a new lease today - moving in two months. Didn't get the huge garage or basement that I wanted but I'll have my lady and my plants right next door to each other and it should be a bit more comfortable than my current place - I'm pretty stoked. Doesn't look like I'll have the room for my 4x8 but the walk in closet looks perfect for my 4x4. These plants should be at 10 weeks the week my current lease expires - lets pray they don't go past that as moving a bunch of late flowering plants is a big pain


Thanks Suchnsuch. It's amazing how fool proof organic can be - damn near impossible to overfeed and the plants just love it. Lets just hope I didn't add too much slow release nitrogen at the begging. And if I attempt to add more N in some other form from now on please remind me not to, I'm always going nitrogen heavy... And in a week if I haven't changed to a HPS bulb flick my ear. I like going the first 2 weeks of flower with the MH (plants are still growing larger before producing flowers) but really do need to switch over after that and have such a terrible sense of time.

suchnsuch said:

I'm experimenting with some party cups in my grow...Went from 31 seeds to 6 females over the course of the grow. Just for personal use, so I figured it'd be a good learning exercise.

Tanker: Those plants look OUTSTANDING! My Grape looked like that in veg, now it's doing awesome! The star of my closet! I think your room is FULL of celebs

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Great grow.. bookmarked your first CFL grow so I can read through it. I have 10 23w (100w cfl) that are vegging 6 bag seed sprouts that had a rough first two weeks of life, due to me moving out, and popping the beans way before I was set up (still am not set up for them but oh well)

Chocha said:

Great grow.. bookmarked your first CFL grow so I can read through it. I have 10 23w (100w cfl) that are vegging 6 bag seed sprouts that had a rough first two weeks of life, due to me moving out, and popping the beans way before I was set up (still am not set up for them but oh well)

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Thanks. That CFL grow of mine really turned out well - glad it can be of help. I actually started it in a similar manner - didn't expect the seeds to actually germinate and when they did went into a panic building a temp cab before retrofitting my closet in a rush. Thankfully all turned out well.

Had another grow though where 50+ clones popped up out of the blue without anything set-up and it was a disaster - threw them under too few CFLs for WAY too long waiting for partners to get their gear together which took too long and blah blah blah ended up just breaking even with the shittiest yield in the world and partially causing a friendship rift. I don't expect you to have the troubles and bet you'll do great. Throw me a link if you start a thread.

50 plants in a 4x8 is too many - live and learn:

lol that is a lot of plants live and learn im glad im not the only one that learns lifes lessons like that. i looked at my pollen and i didnt collect it correctly. the pods are not open. i am gonna take my finger and wipe out the canisterand put on the bud i dont see any pollen though just pods

hammer6913 said:

lol that is a lot of plants live and learn im glad im not the only one that learns lifes lessons like that. i looked at my pollen and i didnt collect it correctly. the pods are not open. i am gonna take my finger and wipe out the canisterand put on the bud i dont see any pollen though just pods

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Oh god I learn so much the hard way - really stamps it into your head that way. Do you have a separate cabinet for the males? If not you can trim all the growth points but one or two and then place a plastic bag over the flowering section and rubberband in place. The pollen sacs will develop and open up and stay contained - just trim the branch when you have enough, remove from the enclosure before opening the bag up. I store my pollen in tin foil packets placed in the refrigerator and it seems to stay pretty viable.

Gastanker said:

Oh god I learn so much the hard way - really stamps it into your head that way. Do you have a separate cabinet for the males? If not you can trim all the growth points but one or two and then place a plastic bag over the flowering section and rubberband in place. The pollen sacs will develop and open up and stay contained - just trim the branch when you have enough, remove from the enclosure before opening the bag up. I store my pollen in tin foil packets placed in the refrigerator and it seems to stay pretty viable.

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can i put him in a small area with a cfl light to flower him? this summer i will put any outside i can hide a few plants here pretty good. thanks for the tips

hammer6913 said:

can i put him in a small area with a cfl light to flower him? this summer i will put any outside i can hide a few plants here pretty good. thanks for the tips

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Yup that is ideal. I put the cuttings I'm spraying with colloidal silver in my tiny veg cab under a couple CFLs. You really don't need much light to produce a little pollen - I've thrown males into a dark bathroom for a couple weeks and they all sprouted nuts with no problem. Ideally I guess you would want maximum light and health to produce the healthiest pollen but even that is debatable. Some say genetics are genetics and can't be altered with health just the likely hood of viable pollen and others say personal health can actually influence the particular genetics expressed within a plant. Personally the first makes more sense to me.

Gastanker said:

Yup that is ideal. I put the cuttings I'm spraying with colloidal silver in my tiny veg cab under a couple CFLs. You really don't need much light to produce a little pollen - I've thrown males into a dark bathroom for a couple weeks and they all sprouted nuts with no problem. Ideally I guess you would want maximum light and health to produce the healthiest pollen but even that is debatable. Some say genetics are genetics and can't be altered with health just the likely hood of viable pollen and others say personal health can actually influence the particular genetics expressed within a plant. Personally the first makes more sense to me.

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i dont know if u read in my journal that my dutch treat got split down the middle i rooted and veged when they flowered they had a different smell and taste. they had seeds when i harvested aand i have 1 in the flower room now. the seedling is now smelling like the mother after the accident. it smell so spicey and the taste is excellent. i wouldnt have thought that it changed the genetics but it must have trsansfered to the seeds. im excited to get that taste back its a little skunky

Milking the males...not ready for that venture myself.

Tanker, I posted a few snaps in my journal, check 'em out when u get a chance,

-such

So it is a bit harder to find colloidal silver and pure silver than I originally thought. All the local health food stores carry colloidal silver but at only 10ppm. The jewelry stores locally are retarded and most of the girls I talked to said that pure (.999%) silver didn't exist and that it would be super expensive... (it's $3 a foot for 22 gauge generally). Finally found a bead store that thought they had pure silver and I bought a foot of it for $2.50, I am pretty sure it is sterling though and not pure - sterling is 92.5% pure. Going to try this sterling wire anyways as I am not imbibing the solution and really don't care if there is some copper in it.

Super simple generator utilizing an old printer transformer putting out either 15v or 32v (it does both depending on set-up and have no idea what set-up I'm using).
This is a bit more voltage than necessary so hopefully the solution will be strong enough by tomorrow.



[video=youtube;QvL7qSnGUSs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvL7qSnGUSs[/video]

hammer6913 said:

i dont know if u read in my journal that my dutch treat got split down the middle i rooted and veged when they flowered they had a different smell and taste. they had seeds when i harvested aand i have 1 in the flower room now. the seedling is now smelling like the mother after the accident. it smell so spicey and the taste is excellent. i wouldnt have thought that it changed the genetics but it must have trsansfered to the seeds. im excited to get that taste back its a little skunky

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Hmm. How interesting. I've heard of clones exhibiting slightly different phenotypes than the mothers they came from - weird but possible I guess.

suchnsuch said:

Milking the males...not ready for that venture myself.

Tanker, I posted a few snaps in my journal, check 'em out when u get a chance,

-such

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I stopped by and they look great. Keep it up.

I need some input:

Right now I am running a 600w Lumatek that I love. I have an HTG 1kW digital ballast that I don't like nearly as much, it is loud, gets far hotter, and to me doesn't seem to be as bright as it should. Right now I have no HPS bulb for the 600w and the 1kW bulb I have is a Hortilux but very old - at least three grows on it.

I'm debating between:
a) Buying a 600w Digilux or Hortilux and flower with the Lumatek +s lower power consumption, heat, sound -'s less lumen and have to spend $ for bulb but 600w bulbs are cheaper than 1kW
b) Flower with the old 1kW bulb and the HTG ballast +s More lumen and no spent money on bulb -'s higher power consumption
c) Buy a new cheaper 1kW bulb and the HTG ballast +s slightly More lumen than above? -'s spent money on bulb and higher power use
d) Buy a Digilux or Hortilux 600w HPS bulb and run the lumatek for 3 weeks and the 1kW old Hortilux for 3 weeks +'s lower power consumption for half more lumens at the end. -'s higher power at the end and spent money on a bulb.

All but one plant, the vet seed, have shown sex and are female. Gave several away to a fellow patient today leaving me with 7. Administered the first dose of colloidal silver to my cuttings as well.

Plants I gave away:


All plants this morning:


Remaining.