Germination problem.

LUDACRIS

New Member
Since i just had to quote myself its very obvious you are not reading what other people are saying properly (FACT).

Shame we couldnt have had a discussion on germing without someone getting all mightier than thou.

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can't understand a word you are saying??????????
:lol::lol:
 

Uncle Ben

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The best and simplest technique is simply get phed tepid water in a cup. Drop seeds in and cover. Put cup in a warm place.

As soon as you see a tap root put the seeds into your medium.
You are correct. Using a paper towel is a very stupid technique.

The best course of action is to soak for 12 hours to hydrate the seed and then plant directly into soil. Good seeds will sink, bad seeds will soak.

UB
 

BrandoMando

New Member
I never use heat, just a damp paper towel and a ziplock. I get good results, midis bag seed about 25 out of 30, and White haze 4 out of 4. Just be patient, as it does take a few days sometimes.
 

bicycle racer

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there is no wrong way to germ if they all work which they do as ive used all methods mentioned this is a silly argument
 

steelerfan

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i put my seeds in room temp distilled water in a shot glass.............. inside a kitchen cabinet(completely dark)........2.5-3.0 days they bust out!.....i've never had a problem!:bigjoint:
 

neptune

Active Member
Ah, to pre germ or not to pre germ? an interesting discussion going on here, sounds like an experiment is needed. My partner teaches and once a year she does the bean gorwing thing where the beans are put in different conditions to germinate and grow and the kids work out what works best using controls and the like, this is primary school stuff shouldnt be beyond us to answer this one definitavly in the next season..............
 

Uncle Ben

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I've done the experiments and understand botany. Here is my germ method which has been lifted by many a seedbank, etc.

Germinating Cannabis Seeds (for Bio Growers)

Your seedlings will be alot better off if you germinate directly in soil - less handling and mechanical disturbance means less chance of physical damage to the plant's taproot (and roothairs) and less food reserves used to position itself due to the natural hormonal influence called Gravitropism. That translates into less food reserves used and increased seedling vigor, especially in the very early critical stages of seedling development.

This is my foolproof method for Cannabis Seed Germination in soil:

First, if harvesting seeds from my own crosses, I air-dry newly harvested seeds for a couple of weeks, and then store them in the refrigerator with a little rice. Cold-treatment seems to increase viability and germination rates, especially with indica-dom strains. I almost always get a 100% germination rate with quality seedstock.

Soak the seeds in plain water for 12 hours prior to planting to hydrate them, which will speed up germination. In general, good seeds will sink, bad seeds will remain floating (they contain air, not an embryo). I first sterilize seeds in a bleach solution (1 Tbsp. bleach/1 gallon of water) for 1/2 hour to kill any fungus residing on the seedcoat.

Sterilize enough *damp* fine soil with heat to germinate all of your seeds. You can do this by treating the damp soil to temps of (no more than) 200F for 20 mins in a conventional oven, or in a microwave oven on high for 2 minutes, while stirring a couple of times. Your goal is to get and hold the entire soil mix's temperature at 170F to 180F for about 20 minutes which can be monitored with a probe type thermometer. Let the mix cool thoroughly. This will insure that damp-off fungus spores have been killed in the soil mix. Make sure the soil mix is light and humusy (not real coarse). You can add a little sand or vermiculite to aid in drainage and weight.

Buy some white 20oz styrofoam "drinking glasses", commonly called "Styro-Cups", and punch holes in the bottom (and side bottom) for drainage. I use a red-hot ice pick for this. These containers are 6 1/2" tall and will allow ample room for the taproot to grow before cotyledon emergence which will increase your seedling's vigor. The taproot (radicle) is already at least 4" long at the point of emergence - don't restrict it (in order to maximize seedling growth rate). Styro-Cups can be found on the shelf displaying picnic items at your local grocery store.

Fill the pots almost to the top with your soil mix, water well to settle the mix, take a pencil and make a small hole about 1/4" to 1/2" deep, NO deeper, and drop *one* seed in. Cover the seed with *fine* soil, only enough to top up the hole, firm lightly with your finger, and lightly water until water runs freely thru the drain holes. Place in a warm spot around 80F/26C. Do NOT cover the cup with saran wrap or anything else. The seed has been hydrated from the soaking and will germinate soon. This container should not require further watering until the seedling is up and running.

During the first couple of days, mist the top soil surface lightly (if need be), never allowing the top to crust over, but not to the point that the medium stays waterlogged which will invite pythium rot (damp-off). "Less is more" at this point. Do NOT water this pot any more until the seedling is up, and only if it needs it at the point of emergence. Again, no need to cover with plastic wrap as the radicle (taproot) will grow at least 4" before the cotyledons emerge from the soil. IOW, even though you can't see it, the plant's root is seeking and finding moisture at the container's lower soil levels. I cannot emphasize this enough. The seedling will emerge anywhere from 2 to 10 days from the time you sowed it.

That's all to it! With good care, your faves will be ready to transplant within 1 to 2 weeks, and will easily slip out of the "cup" with a solid rootball that will never know it's been disturbed if potted up gently and quickly. Move up to a final pot of 3 to 5 gallons to sex and finish.

An effective transplant solution can be made using (no more than) 1 teaspoon of a 15-30-15 fert and 10 drops of Superthrive per gallon of water. Take note regarding the immediate growth spurt after this transition!

Good luck,
Uncle Ben
 

Uncle Ben

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Thanks Uncle,


Can you giveany advice on where to do the germination, light/temp etc?

cheers,

Neptune.
Best done while head is bowed 30 degrees to the southeast with neck turned slightly west while lifting right foot and bouncing at least 40 times/minute.
 

owl

Active Member
my apologies for bringing this back to the dead.

Uncle Ben (and/or anyone else), is there a certain temperature that you would strive for when soaking seeds for 12 hours?

i am about to take some seeds out of a diluted bleach solution (1 tablespoon per gallon of water) and was wondering if you would have a certain temp when soaking seeds for 12 hours.
 

Uncle Ben

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my apologies for bringing this back to the dead.

Uncle Ben (and/or anyone else), is there a certain temperature that you would strive for when soaking seeds for 12 hours?

i am about to take some seeds out of a diluted bleach solution (1 tablespoon per gallon of water) and was wondering if you would have a certain temp when soaking seeds for 12 hours.
Room temp is fine.
 

kujo360

Active Member
i just germinated last night with purified water in a "solo" cup in my closet with no heat pads or anything. about 68-72 degrees in my closet, out of about 35 seeds i got 12 open in just one day!!! i used to do the paper towel thing, but this is more reliable for me anyway, whatever......hope this helps!!!! just check my profile and you can see my results!!!!!
 

kujo360

Active Member
i just germinated last night with purified water in a "solo" cup in my closet with no heat pads or anything. about 68-72 degrees in my closet, out of about 35 seeds i got 12 open in just one day!!! i used to do the paper towel thing, but this is more reliable for me anyway, whatever......hope this helps!!!! just check my profile and you can see my results!!!!!
 
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