Germination techniques

shiva

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Hey all, my new auto flowering feminised white widow seeds have arrived and I just wondered what other ppl did to germinate their seeds? Previously I've used the 2 pieces of tissue technique which worked but with my grow room set up and ready and with them being auto flowering was keen to get them under light as soon as (not used autoflower before).

Is it likely this will cause issues if I plant them immediately and grow straight from seed? Be interested to hear your opinions as I'm a little impatient tbh but want to do the best for the plants.

Still a newb so looking for your thoughts.

Cheers

Shiva
 

qwizoking

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This is best

sorry long and choppy, i combined copy paste of my older posts.
Wet paper towel in an open ziploc between 82-84°„ you wanna see beads on the bag. It should be ready in 24 hours, another 12-24 may be necessary. I fill a cup with my moistened soil mix. I either wet the soil the night before and till it first or moisten untill it will hold its shape and compact at the time I'm doing it (forgot the word for this) ..so as to avoid any rot. Then placed In solo cup, gets a ziploc over the top and in the dark until I have my first set of leaves (still 82-84°)
Bags come off and they goto the sides of my light until the first set of leaves (true set). And temps are brought down to low 70's high 60's to promote female ratios
..use ph'd water, dont use distilled, promotes bacteria and mold growth. Theres also nothing wrong with the chlorine in your tap

This gives me best results. Out of 40 cheese seeds I just germed, all sprouted and only one died as a seedling (my fault)

As long as they aren't crushed or white they will sprout...and even crushed seeds give me about a 50% rate

The bigger it is when put in soil the faster it seems to sprout. I've let the shell fall off with a set of leaves and all before while still in the paper towel (not recommending this though, but can happen in less than 48hrs), if germed at the same time, putting a seed with a smaller taproot will take longer to sprout than if you had just left it in the bag a bit longer.or germed in straight soil for that matter. I use an open gallon bag with wet paper towel at 82-84°. And i use multiple if running alot of seeds, i normally am.
(Ive experimented in 2° increments and found this to be optimimum and the biggest factor)

When you put the seed in the soil, you don't need to bury it, you don't even need dirt to cover it so long as you have high humidity, i use solo cups with a ziploc bag over
, which should have water beads. You don't want to bury the seed to far or compact the dirt when you do. This will drastically increase the time it takes. Ive had seedlings pop up weeks into veg even flower because they were buried in the soil

the dark helps prevent mold and damaging exposed roots.

I've never had seed take longer than 36hour's to open and maybe 2 and a half days till it was ready to transplant. this is on very old seed as well

4 days is the longest i expect it to take my seeds to be ready for light
 

bluntmassa1

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I soak my seeds overnight in a cup of water then plant into little seedling pots of pro-mix that has been wet and on a heat mat under a light overnight. I usually get 100% but all depends on the pack of seeds if their good I'm getting 80-100% if not I ain't fucking with that breeder again (BCBD:finger:). lol
 

kiwipaulie

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how would you plant a tomato seed? just do the same thing, plant in good seedling mix, keep humid and warm, then wait till they pop up and then add light.
 

shiva

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This is best

sorry long and choppy, i combined copy paste of my older posts.
Wet paper towel in an open ziploc between 82-84°„ you wanna see beads on the bag. It should be ready in 24 hours, another 12-24 may be necessary. I fill a cup with my moistened soil mix. I either wet the soil the night before and till it first or moisten untill it will hold its shape and compact at the time I'm doing it (forgot the word for this) ..so as to avoid any rot. Then placed In solo cup, gets a ziploc over the top and in the dark until I have my first set of leaves (still 82-84°)
Bags come off and they goto the sides of my light until the first set of leaves (true set). And temps are brought down to low 70's high 60's to promote female ratios
..use ph'd water, dont use distilled, promotes bacteria and mold growth. Theres also nothing wrong with the chlorine in your tap

This gives me best results. Out of 40 cheese seeds I just germed, all sprouted and only one died as a seedling (my fault)

As long as they aren't crushed or white they will sprout...and even crushed seeds give me about a 50% rate

The bigger it is when put in soil the faster it seems to sprout. I've let the shell fall off with a set of leaves and all before while still in the paper towel (not recommending this though, but can happen in less than 48hrs), if germed at the same time, putting a seed with a smaller taproot will take longer to sprout than if you had just left it in the bag a bit longer.or germed in straight soil for that matter. I use an open gallon bag with wet paper towel at 82-84°. And i use multiple if running alot of seeds, i normally am.
(Ive experimented in 2° increments and found this to be optimimum and the biggest factor)

When you put the seed in the soil, you don't need to bury it, you don't even need dirt to cover it so long as you have high humidity, i use solo cups with a ziploc bag over
, which should have water beads. You don't want to bury the seed to far or compact the dirt when you do. This will drastically increase the time it takes. Ive had seedlings pop up weeks into veg even flower because they were buried in the soil

the dark helps prevent mold and damaging exposed roots.

I've never had seed take longer than 36hour's to open and maybe 2 and a half days till it was ready to transplant. this is on very old seed as well

4 days is the longest i expect it to take my seeds to be ready for light
Thanks to everyone. It's really interesting to see what different people do, however, I'm going to go with this suggestion as (with no offence to the others), the answer was more in depth with reasons why etc and appeared more educated. I've had joy germinating like this before but am just adjusting temps in my grow room now to achieve 82 - 84 in dark conditions. Thanks again to everyone who posted.... Believe me it was tempting to plant them straight into soil into the final pot and get light on them but I've been researching and this doesn't seem to help germination in terms of the affect it can have on the plant long term. Patience is indeed a virtue it would seem so and going with this post. Will be starting a journal as this is my first autoflower grow. One final question. For a short term autoflower grow like this (7-8 weeks), what size pots are people using? I don't want to restrict the plants if I can help it. Cheers all!
 

DirtyMcCurdy

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Put them in the middle of a wet, folded wash cloth. Put them somewhere dark and somewhat warm, at least warmer than cooler. Wait 2-3 days, they will start to "pop", then you just put them in the medium of your choice. This has probably a 90-95+% success rate for me. Its not hard, and don't let anyone let you think it is.
 

shiva

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Put them in the middle of a wet, folded wash cloth. Put them somewhere dark and somewhat warm, at least warmer than cooler. Wait 2-3 days, they will start to "pop", then you just put them in the medium of your choice. This has probably a 90-95+% success rate for me. Its not hard, and don't let anyone let you think it is.
Thanks dirty.... Think I'm worrying too much about it... Temp in my grow room has hit 84 degrees now so think it's ready to start the little blighters germinating! Exciting times!
 

DirtyMcCurdy

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Shiva, post: 11653156, member: 2643"]Thanks dirty.... Think I'm worrying too much about it... Temp in my grow room has hit 84 degrees now so think it's ready to start the little blighters germinating! Exciting times![/QUOTE]
Yep. Just waiting for my white widow beans. Germinating is easy. Its the first couple of weeks that can be dicey, depending on what strain you're growing.
 

CC Dobbs

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Really the best way is to put the seeds into a centrifuge for about 3 hours at 3000 rpm.

Next place the seeds into a combination of wet and dry paper towels. I like Scoot brand because I can reuse then but Evergreen is good as is Thrifty brand. They should be layered dry, wet, dry, wet, wet, dry from the top to the bottom. Put the seeds between the two wet layers for 24 hours then turn them over for 12 hours 3 times in a row. The seeds should now be upside down and you leave them there for another 12 hours then plant them into a mixture of sand, vermiculite, #2 perlite, and Roots Organic potting soil. The temperature during all of this time should be about 72-81 degrees.

When the soil looks dry use some wetting agents to keep your stuff hydrated. I play a podcast of some classical music and I swear that this is the difference that keeps my germination rate so high. I usually end up with more seedlings than I plant seeds which puts my germination rate at about 109% or so.

The last thing I do is to make sure that no foreign microwave signals are passing through the place where your plants are. The foreign signals can cause stunting and misshapen flowers. FYI
 

mr sunshine

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Really the best way is to put the seeds into a centrifuge for about 3 hours at 3000 rpm.

Next place the seeds into a combination of wet and dry paper towels. I like Scoot brand because I can reuse then but Evergreen is good as is Thrifty brand. They should be layered dry, wet, dry, wet, wet, dry from the top to the bottom. Put the seeds between the two wet layers for 24 hours then turn them over for 12 hours 3 times in a row. The seeds should now be upside down and you leave them there for another 12 hours then plant them into a mixture of sand, vermiculite, #2 perlite, and Roots Organic potting soil. The temperature during all of this time should be about 72-81 degrees.

When the soil looks dry use some wetting agents to keep your stuff hydrated. I play a podcast of some classical music and I swear that this is the difference that keeps my germination rate so high. I usually end up with more seedlings than I plant seeds which puts my germination rate at about 109% or so.

The last thing I do is to make sure that no foreign microwave signals are passing through the place where your plants are. The foreign signals can cause stunting and misshapen flowers. FYI
Well said....
 

shiva

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Really the best way is to put the seeds into a centrifuge for about 3 hours at 3000 rpm.

Next place the seeds into a combination of wet and dry paper towels. I like Scoot brand because I can reuse then but Evergreen is good as is Thrifty brand. They should be layered dry, wet, dry, wet, wet, dry from the top to the bottom. Put the seeds between the two wet layers for 24 hours then turn them over for 12 hours 3 times in a row. The seeds should now be upside down and you leave them there for another 12 hours then plant them into a mixture of sand, vermiculite, #2 perlite, and Roots Organic potting soil. The temperature during all of this time should be about 72-81 degrees.

When the soil looks dry use some wetting agents to keep your stuff hydrated. I play a podcast of some classical music and I swear that this is the difference that keeps my germination rate so high. I usually end up with more seedlings than I plant seeds which puts my germination rate at about 109% or so.

The last thing I do is to make sure that no foreign microwave signals are passing through the place where your plants are. The foreign signals can cause stunting and misshapen flowers. FYI

LOL.... shit man. It was clearly a noob question of the highest order! That was funny....
 
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