giving defoliation during flower a try

pk_boosted2 said:
You guys r very confused on the price of AN btw..
On a 4 light run for entire bloom period its not even gonna cost u 400-450$ total.

You only need to run small amounts of the nutrient supplements they are very concentrated, additives i never exceed half strength 4 ml/gal
Bloom i start at half and by week 3 full strength for 4 weeks than back in half so range of 5 ml to 12 than down to 5 for last 2/3 weeks.

For bloom on a 4 light run the gallon jugs u proly only use half of them so u can get 2 runs out of them so maybe total cost on bases is 100-120$
Additives a litre of voodoo like 80$
Litre of over drive same and u dont even need all of it only run for 2 weeks 60$
Big bud proly need half a gallon or 2 litres maybe another 75-100$
And half gal of b52 maybe another 100$

Thats all u basic requirments are rougly 450$ give or take and thats with a drain to waste
If u running hydroponics the cost obviosuly alot cheaper cuz u reuse ur nutrients for a week at a time. So proly cost 2/3 of that for a 4 lighter. Thats not very expensive at all.
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You are very confused because I can get all that in one bottle for 13 bux
 
WHODAT@THADOR said:
You are very confused because I can get all that in one bottle for 13 bux
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Advanced doesnt work like brotha, its canna specific so u can tailor they nutrients to ur plants thats why they sre broken down into diff bottles.

2nd u dont need to use any supplements i know someone who just uses their bases and microb teas and does fine. Just not gonna get yield as u would running their additives because they greatly increase ur yield.

Their bases have all 17 macros and micros inckuding humic/fulvic acids and 20 forms of aminos and yucca extract surfractant wetting agent. U cud do same thing w their bases for only like 80$ for both jugs and still get results just not gonna be as good.
 
pk_boosted2 said:
Advanced doesnt work like brotha, its canna specific so u can tailor they nutrients to ur plants thats why they sre broken down into diff bottles.

2nd u dont need to use any supplements i know someone who just uses their bases and microb teas and does fine. Just not gonna get yield as u would running their additives because they greatly increase ur yield.

Their bases have all 17 macros and micros inckuding humic/fulvic acids and 20 forms of aminos and yucca extract surfractant wetting agent. U cud do same thing w their bases for only like 80$ for both jugs and still get results just not gonna be as good.
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how can something be canna specific when there are THOUSANDS of strains?
 
WHODAT@THADOR said:
They need to lay off the pot there smoking if they think that
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Its a fact, they sell more nutrients than any other company on market. They are gold standard for nutrients same as Canna.

And AN just became first govt regulated nutrient company in bulgaria and austria i believe for govt grows and research even though pots illegal out there. They are well known globally. Their shit is top dog ppl can say whatever they want they market the gimmicks whatever their shit is very good.
 
chuck estevez said:
how can something be canna specific when there are THOUSANDS of strains?
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Its a basic formula its a plant u provide essential micro and macros nutrients its gonna grow. Then they have their additives boost, additional nutrients and supplements to make it explode and crazy growth.

Thats why their shit is so good u can custom feed bcuz its in sep bottles u cant do that with any other nutrient company.
GH sort of can but not same type of thing.

U got use it and c for yourself man all i can say.
I used to be u guys!! I swore id never use AN i was canna 100% or h&g until i used it for myself and started hittin crazy yields and huge flowers than i was sold. Thats how it went down i ran canna for 5 years until i switched to try nee shit.
 
Yeah whatever everyone can find sutttin wrong w everything. I dont got anymore energy to argue. Go try the stuff for yourself and when hr getting double size buds on same phenos u never got b4 u will b sold to.. Happened to me and my boys we all used canna and botanicare for years and years and we all switched after they seen my results.

i got shit to do later happy turkey day all gobble gobbly
 
I used to be you, was taught to grow with $2500 worth of AN, Dude would make up a huge soup that I couldn't keep track of at first, he grew great weed too, then These guys taught me i could do the same thing, if not better, with 1 bottle or jug of nutes. I showed this to the other guy and he refused to change at first and still won't fully commit, but, he is coming around.
 
pk_boosted2 said:
Yeah whatever everyone can find sutttin wrong w everything. I dont got anymore energy to argue. Go try the stuff for yourself and when hr getting double size buds on same phenos u never got b4 u will b sold to.. Happened to me and my boys we all used canna and botanicare for years and years and we all switched after they seen my results.

i got shit to do later happy turkey day all gobble gobbly
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dude chucky doesnt even grow weed, hes just trolling you posting pics. hes a well known douche bag just here to troll while hiding behind aunt bens skirt. dont waste your energy.
 
st0wandgrow said:
....I am, however honest enough to concede though that it doesn't matter what nutrients you use (organic or otherwise). If the plant is getting all of the required elements, it will thrive in spite of whether there is a fancy cartoon character on the bottle or not
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This tard is not capable of acknowledging this basic botanical fact much less able to process the information.

UB
 
Hydroburn said:
dude chucky doesnt even grow weed, hes just trolling you posting pics. hes a well known douche bag just here to troll while hiding behind aunt bens skirt. dont waste your energy.
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Im not opposed to using any nutrient ive tried alot of them and nothing ever compares to AN or Canna regardless of the price. Nutrients arent expensive IMO dont care what company they are from they are all relatively same cost after u add all the shit up. Saying nutrients are expensive is like saying im paying too much for genetics. Its an important part of the grow and end result so why wouldnt I pay for the best?

Im just not cheap and I dont just listen to other ppl's bs.. Otherwise I would never even used AN, i think outside the box like damn this company spends millions on marketing and research and gives 100% money back guarantee that they got the best cannabis nutrient. Noone else does that but everyone talks shit about their products, so fuck it ill try em out and lemme c for myself.

Like trying to convince ppl back in 1400s the world wasnt flat. Noone would listen but everyone agreed with no knowledge on the facts bcuz they didnt think for themselves. Come to find out the world wasnt flat and ppl started to listen bcuz their was evidence to back the claims.

I was the few who believed in the company and their claims so I ponied up and decided to run it and boom my yields increased and flower size almost doubled. I was never gettin 2+ ounces buds from my chems or bubbas uses any other nutrient i didnt even think they could get any bigger than they were. I would usually like an ounce or so from top colas, then i doubled the dry weight and I was convinced. I went from 1.75-2 a light to over 2+ every time, and now im sold.
So, the point is that, maybe ppl should stop listening to everyone else and try things for themselves, or u too will kp thinking the world is flat.
 
Hydroburn said:
dude chucky doesnt even grow weed, hes just trolling you posting pics. hes a well known douche bag just here to troll while hiding behind aunt bens skirt. dont waste your energy.
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says the douchebag jumping on pg 100 of a thread and has a name HYdro burn. That is like a midget telling a giant he has a small dick.
It's funny, when I put someone in check, they ALWAYS come back with butt hurt remarks, EVEN though I posted pics of my veg room and finished product.
 
chuck estevez said:
oh, and here is some more shit talking

YOU go to HYDRO store to buy nutes(genius) you buy DG because the pros on the forum are having great results with it, YOU do not notice that the HYDRO store doesn't push DG, so it has been there for awhile, yet YOU still decide to buy it. YOU then have no clue to store it properly so it doesn't change temps and clot up, then YOU still decide to use. YOU have no clue how to read your plants and adjust so YOU blame it on the DG. then YOU come on RIU and try and tell everyone that DG sucks. do YOU see a problem here?
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Good points.

All liquid foods have a limited shelf life. A little history and rethinking for me. 15 years ago nobody in cannabis forums had heard of DG much less used it until I started pushing it. I was even flamed by a popular POS at the biggest grow site ever - Overgrow.com. Still pushed it AND Jack's. Having said that I have pretty much migrated away from liquid foods and gone dry. It's much more manageable. I've been through dozens of brands and ratios. They all pretty much perform the same.

DG Bloom will precipitate out (Foliage Pro will not) but here's where the rubber meets the road - if you call DG up and talk to a tech they will not only discuss the issue with you and maybe redesign the product (if they find your problems have merit) but will replace the product free gratis. Not that I have had any problems but I was given a T shirt and 3 gallons of DG goodies - the Fo Pro, Bloom and Pro-tekt.....just for shooting the shit with a DG tech.
 
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