chuck estevez
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kinda, but we figured out it's more like shaving your pubes to make your dick look bigger.
giving defoliation during flower a try
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King Arthur
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Way better analogy!kinda, but we figured out it's more like shaving your pubes to make your dick look bigger.
AlphaPhase
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Lol
Doer
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Hmmm...... Maybe that's it. Certainly a lot of dick wagging about it.kinda, but we figured out it's more like shaving your pubes to make your dick look bigger.
AlphaPhase
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Yeah, this method isn't for amateurs that's for sure. There should be a website strictly for defoliators- that way the technique can be learned properly and applied the correct way for the proper reasons.
Alienwidow
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ya, this is yet another reason to use the technique. tight sog. i agree with you completely. Alpha, its embarrassing that the the whole "advanced growing" group of hardcores, claiming to represent RIU can't get it through their advanced heads that theres a time and a place for all sorts of strange things that people do to the plants. you tell them that people do it in scrog and they claim its stupid to scrog as well. i would think that the members that frequent the advanced growing section would know a place for every technique, and the ins and outs of all the growing methods. yet these guys don't have a clue how it could be an effective tool to use. they're more interested in spell checking and grammar than brining any facts to the table. extreme defoliation is one thing, helping the plant fit in its environment or removing the under the net in scrog is totally different yet uses the same principals. its pointless to try and teach them anything, they already know it all.
churchhaze
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principles.
churchhaze
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I always thought the harvesting section was the dick waving contest. "I've got big fat 10 inch buds... everyone feel bad for me because now i have to trim a ton of weed and it takes me forever."
AlphaPhase
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Right on alien widow, there are a few hard-core defoliators that I know and any time I ran my flood tables I plucked tons of leaves. If leaves were left alone the yields would be terrible. And it's not oneof those " you're growing too many plants in the room grow less in that space" kind of things. The flood table pulled 2.5lbs every 2 months. No other method can do that, I still haven't beat 2.5 lbs every 2 months, it's hard to beat that with no veg time. It was a lot of clones to handle though. But heavy defoliation worked perfect with the way I grew back then.
Doer
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It's not a technique and there is nothing to learn. It is certainly not for Professional anything.
It's like a chopped Chevy lowrider, one trick pony, all jacked up with giant springs and lifters with pumps and it can hop a curb. So what?
What is the proper reason? To make eye candy and charge extra for nothing?. One big cola per plant, is as commercially useless as the Chopped Lowrider.
Why don't you start that website and get rich? I'm sure ir will have wide and professional appeal. And then the oh so wise, won't need to preach it here.
chuck estevez
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to lateIt's not a technique and there is nothing to learn. It is certainly not for Professional anything.
It's like a chopped Chevy lowrider, one trick pony, all jacked up with giant springs and lifters with pumps and it can hop a curb. So what?
What is the proper reason? To make eye candy and charge extra for nothing?. As commercially useless as the lowrider.
Why don't you start that website and get rich? I'm sure ir will have wide and professional appeal.
http://www.stupid.com/
Uncle Ben
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It's flawed, period. What they were actually testing were the efficacy of pipes....... with a filtered pipe reducing the residuals the most while spinning they were testing pesticide residuals on cannabis flowers which they spiked minutes before.
They started off with this disengenious statement:
The present study was conducted in order to quantify to what extent cannabis consumers may be exposed to pesticide and
other chemical residues through inhaled mainstream cannabis smoke. Three different smoking devices were evaluated in order to provide a generalized data set representative of pesticide exposures possible for medical cannabis users. Three different pesticides, bifenthrin, diazinon, and permethrin, along with the plant growth regulator paclobutrazol, which are readily available to cultivators in commercial products,were investigated in the experiment.
The study didn't represent shit. Are these people delusional or what?
What they should have done is followed normal, conventional procedures for application and testing. Pesticides have the means of beaking down into (usually) harmless products, malathion is very short lived before breaking down in a phosphate from which it was derived. Like 5 days due to the effects of the elements, especially heat and the sun. They should have taken field grown samples which were been sprayed with the recommended dose of say..... bifenthrin per the label, and at the correct time for say....aphid control, then 1, 3, and 6 weeks later tested for residual bifenthrin on MJ flowers.
The study is meaningless in the real world and carries an emotionally charged agenda. Hell, a full page was spent on editorializing how bad pesticides can be. Well, I guess if you're stupid enough to spike the flowers directly with the pesticides.......duh.
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Uncle Ben
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I've been posting to cannabis growing forums before there were Vbulletin boards like this and I'm here to tell you that cannabis growers, mainly newbies that have never grown a plant before in their life, are just a bunch of misguided fuckups......... who base their growing decisions on what's popular with The Herd as opposed to knowing and fully understanding what makes a plant tick.
(grabs shaver)
BROBIE
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You are too closed minded about this and completely wrong IMO so there is no point continuing. Thanks for the debate.It's flawed, period. What they were actually testing were the efficacy of pipes....... with a filtered pipe reducing the residuals the most while spinning they were testing pesticide residuals on cannabis flowers which they spiked minutes before.
They started off with this disengenious statement:
The present study was conducted in order to quantify to what extent cannabis consumers may be exposed to pesticide and
other chemical residues through inhaled mainstream cannabis smoke. Three different smoking devices were evaluated in order to provide a generalized data set representative of pesticide exposures possible for medical cannabis users. Three different pesticides, bifenthrin, diazinon, and permethrin, along with the plant growth regulator paclobutrazol, which are readily available to cultivators in commercial products,were investigated in the experiment.
The study didn't represent shit. Are these people delusional or what?
What they should have done is followed normal, conventional procedures for application and testing. Pesticides have the means of beaking down into (usually) harmless products, malathion is very short lived before breaking down in a phosphate from which it was derived. Like 5 days due to the effects of the elements, especially heat and the sun. They should have taken field grown samples which were been sprayed with the recommended dose of say..... bifenthrin per the label, and at the correct time for say....aphid control, then 1, 3, and 6 weeks later tested for residual bifenthrin on MJ flowers.
The study is meaningless in the real world and carries an emotionally charged agenda. Hell, a full page was spent on editorializing how bad pesticides can be. Well, I guess if you're stupid enough to spike the flowers directly with the pesticides.......duh.
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Doer
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No, you are closed minded. We did the experiments and you don't care for the results.
You would rather hand wave about a fair debate.
Botany is not a debate. Science is not a debate. RIU is not a debate. A debate has rules, judges, and a winner.
Completely wrong, completely wrong, completely wrong is just a political slogan.
BROBIE
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OK how bout you substantiate his comments and add something. My interpretation is that the study was to show that when you smoke from the pipes , you will get toxins in you and they gave the final conclusion NOT in PPM but in percentile ONLY. They went so far as to get an average stoner draw rate, not like the big sucking machines of the 60's. Read the conclusions and add your input instead of this U been served bullshit. And what do you mean by "we did the experiments" ?
BROBIE
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wake and bake !!
This is why I said thanks for the debate. Complete waste of energy.
PS: IT's NOT A FUCKING PIPE STUDY!!!!!!!
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