doobnVA
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HIRED, by whom? The government, right?
How does the government pay its bills?
That's right! WITH TAX DOLLARS.
duh....
Glen Beck's a Douche!
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HIRED, by whom? The government, right?
How does the government pay its bills?
That's right! WITH TAX DOLLARS.
duh....
maxamus1
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you first have to speak to an magistrate to dispute your case right after getting finger printed and everything. depending when you go in. then they will tell you how much your bail will be or if you can get bail. then you wait for some one to get you out. if you were innocent until proven guilty you would never see the jail till you were proven guilty.
macinnis
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I knew you would use some right wing bull shit to justify it. Fraud is Fraud, and with defense contractors theirs is in the billions not under $50 million which is what ACORN has recieved. You're full of shit CJ, it is alright to defraud us as long as you make weapons? It's your mentality that lets it happen time and time again. And oh yeah, we NEVER should have gone into Iraq to fight that bullshit war. Had Bush kept his eye on Ahghanistan, We would have won it already and never lost all the troops and treasure we have sacrificed for Iraq. People keep forgetting, President Obama is just cleaning up Bush and Chenney's mess from every area of policy over the last 8 years whether the economy, wars, foreign policy, health care, social liberties, etc., etc., etc.
doobnVA
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Not to mention that he seems to think government contractors aren't paid with TAX DOLLARS.
They certainly aren't paid in marshmallows and fluffy bunnies....
macinnis
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Maybe Eric Prince (Blackwater CEO) gets fluffy bunnies to kill, or sacrifice (the guys a nutcase. He's appointed by God? really?).Not to mention that he seems to think government contractors aren't paid with TAX DOLLARS.
CrackerJax
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Why don't you just rattle off more qualified contractors to rebuild countries in the middle of a fire fight?
list them please..
Comparing foreign war contracting to Acorn is preposterous..... and u don't even know it.
macinnis
Active Member
CJ - So yes or no, they should be able to defraud the Taxpayer. Stop dodging the question
doobnVA
Well-Known Member
Right. One helps the poor, and the other enslaves the poor to make money for the rich.
Completely different.
Wonder why republicans are so adamant about shutting down ACORN, and continue to turn a blind eye to the fraudulent actions of the defense industry?
Hmm... could it be because they (not-so-secretly) wish the poor would just vanish off the face of the earth?
Nah, couldn't be... could it?
CrackerJax
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No, they should not.... when laws are broken, then the court system should take over. But contracting is very different from a NON profit which sucks at the teat of the taxpayer......
CrackerJax
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Of course, no one is arguing that, but Halli, Black, perform real services in areas that are extremely hostile.
I would GLADLY take all of the ACORN "volunteers" and switch them with Blackwater 5 years ago.....
You cannot compare the two.
I would GLADLY take all of the ACORN "volunteers" and switch them with Blackwater 5 years ago.....
You cannot compare the two.
macinnis
Active Member
At this point I have stopped comparing the 2 and moved on to how Blackwater and Halliburton should both be far more investigated and their contracts suspended. Again, we don't need Blackwater. That's why we have a military with 5 branches and many special forces units; they do the job better and cheaper. Many other companies can do what Halliburton and KBR can do, or I should say don't do; and that's electrocute our soldiers through bad wiring, raping female employees and then burying it, fraud, etc., etc.
CrackerJax
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That's nice, but ACORN needs to be stripped of all public funds....
macinnis
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If convicted of fraud, I agree with you 100%. But only if CONVICTED!
macinnis
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Why do you guys hate organizations that look out for the little guy like ACORN, SEIU, AFMSCME, etc.?
CrackerJax
New Member
No one hates anyone. Quit making sweeping generalizations as if they were fact.
ACORN is corrupt and has sunk itself with no help from others. Obama's pals...Chicago... I'm shocked.
The priceless quote was from one volunteer who said, "what's everyone so upset about, we're just like obama".
Nuff said there.....
ACORN is corrupt and has sunk itself with no help from others. Obama's pals...Chicago... I'm shocked.
The priceless quote was from one volunteer who said, "what's everyone so upset about, we're just like obama".
Nuff said there.....
macinnis
Active Member
It just seems that conservatives are always going after organizations that help the majority of Americans that don't make millions of dollars a year. Don't forget, the whole scandal about the firing of David Iglesias centered around how the GOP wanted him to bring up trumped up charges on ACORN and he wouldn't do it because there was no evidence.
CrackerJax
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That's a bogus argument ... it seems. It seems Obama is destroying the engine which drives the economy.
It seems ppl care if their tax money goes to thugs.
I'm by no means a conservative, but I know when the country is being sold out and put up for auction. This isn't supposed to be some grand experiment with Socialism.... this is the real deal. The USA's debt load is so top heavy, we may never get a "do over" after these horrid ideas are pulsed through the country.
We are staring at the abyss, and Obama is pushing us hard from behind. No one will catch us. No one will try.
It seems that either Obama is a complete moron, or he hates the USA. I don't think he's a moron.
It seems ppl care if their tax money goes to thugs.
I'm by no means a conservative, but I know when the country is being sold out and put up for auction. This isn't supposed to be some grand experiment with Socialism.... this is the real deal. The USA's debt load is so top heavy, we may never get a "do over" after these horrid ideas are pulsed through the country.
We are staring at the abyss, and Obama is pushing us hard from behind. No one will catch us. No one will try.
It seems that either Obama is a complete moron, or he hates the USA. I don't think he's a moron.
RickWhite
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No conviction is necessary. It isn't ACORN's money and they aren't entitled to it. Congress doesn't need a reason to cut them off.
As far as Blackwater is concerned; I never did understand why we would be hiring a private company for this duty. It seems unethical in the first place.
As far as Haliburton, aside from specious accusations, I have never seen anything that even suggests any impropriety of any kind. Cheny severed all ties with them prior to his election and there is no evidence of impropriety there either.