Global Warming Update

Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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newworldicon said:
Ocean levels are actually falling in the Indian Ocean, explain that whilst your polar caps melt moron.
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I guess if you jus state it it means it's true.. One comment away from your own gripe about citation..

Are you a scientist? Do you have any formal education on any of these topics? Why do you feel you're qualified to make any of these claims?

Why does the vast majority of the entire worlds scientists acknowledge global warming?

Let me guess...

..it's all one huuuuuuge conspiracy.

Read.

A.

Fucking.

Book.

For.

Fucks.

Sake.

PS.

Don't.

Reproduce.
 
newworldicon

newworldicon

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Padawanbater2 said:

I guess if you jus state it it means it's true.. One comment away from your own gripe about citation..

Are you a scientist? Do you have any formal education on any of these topics? Why do you feel you're qualified to make any of these claims?

Why does the vast majority of the entire worlds scientists acknowledge global warming?

Let me guess...

..it's all one huuuuuuge conspiracy.

Read.

A.

Fucking.

Book.

For.

Fucks.

Sake.

PS.

Don't.

Reproduce.
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And if you say the worlds scientists agree then that is word, even when this is not the case as for every study in favour of man made climate change there is a study against, let me guess you read and I'm ignorant...
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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newworldicon said:
And if you say the worlds scientists agree then that is word, even when this is not the case as for every study in favour of man made climate change there is a study against, let me guess you read and I'm ignorant...
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That is a known and well established fact in the scientific community, in all of academia. The only people who oppose the leading scientific consensus on climate change are ignorant of all the facts. Just like the people who don't accept the theory of evolution. Same exact kinds of people. They are simply lying to themselves at this point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

Since you oppose wiki;

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/306/5702/1686.full

"
Many details about climate interactions are not well understood, and there are ample grounds for continued research to provide a better basis for understanding climate dynamics. The question of what to do about climate change is also still open. But there is a scientific consensus on the reality of anthropogenic climate change. Climate scientists have repeatedly tried to make this clear. It is time for the rest of us to listen."​

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=climate+change&hl=en&btnG=Search&as_sdt=1%2C5&as_sdtp=on

2.1 million hits for you...


 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Padawanbater2 said:

I guess if you jus state it it means it's true.. One comment away from your own gripe about citation..

Are you a scientist? Do you have any formal education on any of these topics? Why do you feel you're qualified to make any of these claims?

Why does the vast majority of the entire worlds scientists acknowledge global warming?

Let me guess...

..it's all one huuuuuuge conspiracy.

Read.

A.

Fucking.

Book.

For.

Fucks.

Sake.

PS.

Don't.

Reproduce.
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Scientists can't even tell you it will rain in 12 hours, with all those weather satellites and decades of models. But they know if a cow farts in India, it drops 10 degrees in Fargo?
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Canna Sylvan said:
Scientists can't even tell you it will rain in 12 hours, with all those weather satellites and decades of models. But they know if a cow farts in India, it drops 10 degrees in Fargo?
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Climate and weather are two different things.

I don't understand this criticism of science. It's science that's allowing you to type to me across the internet. It's science that allows you to drive your car to work everyday and feed your family. What, the leading experts across dozens of different fields of science have all just dropped the ball on this one?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Padawanbater2 said:
The only people who oppose the leading scientific consensus on climate change are ignorant of all the facts.
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hanlon's razor dictates that we not prescribe to malice that which is explained by ignorance, but here we have an exception.

the ones who oppose the theory of ACC are not ignorant of the facts, they are aware of them but are paid to dispute them by those interested in not weaning off certain fuels in favor of cleaner, sustainable, renewable energy.

this is well-documented but i am happy to provide "sightation" if asked.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Padawanbater2 said:
What, the leading experts across dozens of different fields of science have all just dropped the ball on this one?
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it's a decades-in-the-making conspiracy involving thousands of independent scientists across hundreds of nations which has only recently been uncovered for the hoax that it is by the least intelligent segment of the population while watching fox news, calculating launch trajectories, molding tin foil hats, and stockpiling MREs for their compounds.
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Padawanbater2 said:
Climate and weather are two different things.

I don't understand this criticism of science. It's science that's allowing you to type to me across the internet. It's science that allows you to drive your car to work everyday and feed your family. What, the leading experts across dozens of different fields of science have all just dropped the ball on this one?
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I like science, but climate bullshit is called pseudoscience, along with astrology, tarrot, homeopathy, reflexology, chiropractic energy healing, religion, blood letting, self help, multiverse, psychology, alchemy, evolution and personality tests.

Real science is: astronomy, chemistry, geology, mathematics (ie calculus), biology, physiology, genetics (DNA or epigenes), anthropology, logic, sociology, and physics.

1 + 1 = 2, science

We're guessing man made climate change is causing a carbon footprint and CO2 levels cause this, pseudoscience.

Got it? Cause I totally get it.
 
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jbsoriginality

Member
imnot talking about climate change when i ask this question people: what if one day there is no gas left to use! wouldnt it have been better if we had prepared sooner to be green?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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jbsoriginality said:
imnot talking about climate change when i ask this question people: what if one day there is no gas left to use! wouldnt it have been better if we had prepared sooner to be green?
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there will always be gas, it will just become expensive enough eventually that no one will want it because the alternative is cheaper. but your point remains.

the day is soon coming when the alternative will be cheaper, and certain dumbasses who will remain nameless seem to think it would be a good idea if we were less prepared when that day comes, rather than to be in front of the pack.

and lol at canna sylvan calling evolution "pseudo science". should probably teach intelligent design instead.
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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UncleBuck said:
there will always be gas, it will just become expensive enough eventually that no one will want it because the alternative is cheaper. but your point remains.

the day is soon coming when the alternative will be cheaper, and certain dumbasses who will remain nameless seem to think it would be a good idea if we were less prepared when that day comes, rather than to be in front of the pack.

and lol at canna sylvan calling evolution "pseudo science". should probably teach intelligent design instead.
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I was taught in school in "evolution science" that the appendix is a "vestigial" organ.

Really?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090820175901.htm

How do you know intelligent design isn't real?

http://www.panspermia.org/intro.htm

How about Lamark being total bullshit to partially right. Or DNA is THE cause for heredity, not PART of the cause.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090518111723.htm

Evolution is a theory. It's only a theory. It only partly explains how biology changes, just like genes are only part of genetics. Scientists want to discredit god so badly, they'll spew such smelly bullsit to "win."
 
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Blaze Master

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Canna Sylvan said:
I was taught in school in "evolution science" that the appendix is a "vestigial" organ.

Really?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090820175901.htm

How do you know intelligent design isn't real?

http://www.panspermia.org/intro.htm

How about Lamark being total bullshit to partially right. Or DNA is THE cause for heredity, not PART of the cause.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090518111723.htm

Evolution is a theory. It's only a theory. It only partly explains how biology changes, just like genes are only part of genetics. Scientists want to discredit god so badly, they'll spew such smelly bullsit to "win."
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yes everything is one big scientific conspiracy. you are clearly a genius :lol:
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Here's a real simple way to tell if something is a pseudoscience:

It's the consensus of

The evidence points to

We think

Should we teach X instead

We have proof

No other explanations are allowed. Universities fire you for talking about alternatives.

....

Those are just some of the giveaways it's a pseudoscience.

H2O is the chemical formula for water.

The Earth is a roundish shape.

Humans are a eukaryote organism with a 46 diploid cell number of chromosomes.

Those are scientific.

That evolution has taken place is a fact, because it is overwhelmingly supported by many lines of evidence.

The theory of evolution is the basis of modern biology. Nothing in biology makes sense without it.

....

The bullshit meter is off the chart. Nothing in biology makes sense? The science of biology existed way before evolution was a theory. Modern biology uses many of those findings, which according to evolution make no sense?
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Blaze Master said:
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yes everything is one big scientific conspiracy. you are clearly a genius :lol:
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Because scientists are always correct? Who said anything about conspiracy. There aren't any conspiracies, only the lack of an open mind.

Richard Dawkins even states how religion and science are at odds with eachother in, The God Delusion. It's really pathetic. More people need to read Charles Fort, especially his, The Book of the Dammed.
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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UncleBuck said:
. put the bible down, dude.
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I read the whole bible as a kid. It's the the most boring set of myths compared to all the others. As a kid I read all the myths around the world. The books left out of the bible are actually more interesting, like Enoch, which most closely resembles it's Sumerian source.

The Dogon and Sumerian knew about Sirius B thousands of years before modern scientists, which took really big telescopes.

The Sumerians knew the the exact orbirts of the 9 planets, along with a 10th they called Nibiru, thousands of years before the modern scientists.

The Mayan's could generate electricity with plants and knew the rotation of the Milkyway, thousands of years before modern scientists.

Why is there spacecraft in religious art which look like B movie UFOs?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZCK0IYafUY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

None of that is conclusive evidence, but it's enough to question if someone not from earth was playing Monsanto with us at one time.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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UncleBuck said:
the ones who oppose the theory of ACC are not ignorant of the facts, they are aware of them but are paid to dispute them by those interested in not weaning off certain fuels in favor of cleaner, sustainable, renewable energy.
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That's clear as day to you, me, and anyone else who bothers to think past the propaganda. Why do you think people like CS can't see that?

Canna Sylvan said:
I like science, but climate bullshit is called pseudoscience, along with astrology, tarrot, homeopathy, reflexology, chiropractic energy healing, religion, blood letting, self help, multiverse, psychology, alchemy, evolution and personality tests.

Real science is: astronomy, chemistry, geology, mathematics (ie calculus), biology, physiology, genetics (DNA or epigenes), anthropology, logic, sociology, and physics.
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You think religion is pseudoscience, along with the theory of evolution, yet you think biology, physiology, and genetics are real science?

How does that make any sense at all? The entire field of biology wouldn't even exist without the theory of evolution. It is the very foundation of the entire practice. Physiology and genetics fall right into that category too. Could you be more clear on that statement, I'm more confused than before...

Canna Sylvan said:
I was taught in school in "evolution science" that the appendix is a "vestigial" organ.

Really?
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Pretend it's the year 1491... The Earth is flat. Next year, Christopher Columbus will sail his ship across the Atlantic and reach the new world, confirming the Earth is in fact round, not flat. Without the luxury of knowing this information, the scientists are correct in concluding the Earth is flat. So here's the question... Does this make SCIENCE inaccurate and false, or does this make the scientists who are taking all the measurable calculations available wrong?

The distinction should be pretty obvious, hopefully that sheds some light on the point you were making... Science is a very well established tool to discover the truth, it takes time for humans to come up with instruments that lead us to more accurate conclusions. This doesn't mean science is wrong, it means it's a mistake to jump to conclusions without sufficient evidence.

Canna Sylvan said:
Evolution is a theory. It's only a theory. It only partly explains how biology changes, just like genes are only part of genetics. Scientists want to discredit god so badly, they'll spew such smelly bullsit to "win."
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It's only about "winning" on the opposition to real science, namely, the religious crowd, those that have something to lose if they were to find out certain scientific theories were fact. The only reason they're not fact is because science isn't so arrogant to claim such a thing, again, only religious people are.

Evolution is "only a theory" just like gravity and germ are only "theories". Do you get vaccinated? Do you stick to the surface of the Earth? Hate to break it to you, but those are "only theories", too. Accepting the theory of evolution does not negate the idea of a god. Whatever you interpreted from Dawkins book isn't the same thing I did. I've listened to hours of lecture, read hundreds of pages by the guy. His view on the subject is pretty clear, the idea of a god is unlikely, not impossible, as (this is why science is so valuable) nothing in existence is 100% certain. He knows this, he leaves room for the possibility.

Canna Sylvan said:
It's the consensus of
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As opposed to..

"This is the TRUTH!"

Canna Sylvan said:
The evidence points to
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"The clear TRUTH is!"

Canna Sylvan said:
We think
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"We KNOW!"

Canna Sylvan said:
Should we teach X instead
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"Creationism!!"

Canna Sylvan said:
We have proof
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"We have FACTS!"

Canna Sylvan said:
No other explanations are allowed. Universities fire you for talking about alternatives.
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"They're tryin' to stifle the TRUTH!!"

Canna Sylvan said:
That evolution has taken place is a fact, because it is overwhelmingly supported by many lines of evidence.

The theory of evolution is the basis of modern biology. Nothing in biology makes sense without it.
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Evolution does take place, fact. It is supported by many lines of evidence, fact.

The theory of evolution is the modern basis of biology, fact. Nothing in biology does make sense without it, fact.

Canna Sylvan said:
The bullshit meter is off the chart. Nothing in biology makes sense? The science of biology existed way before evolution was a theory. Modern biology uses many of those findings, which according to evolution make no sense?
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When did modern biology originate?

Canna Sylvan said:
Because scientists are always correct? Who said anything about conspiracy. There aren't any conspiracies, only the lack of an open mind.
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Do you know how many people it would take to pull off a hoax as large as the theory of evolution?..
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Oh and I disproved Mr. Tyson's dumb ass statement about the appendix. It is a warehouse for friendly bacteria that are released upon your body purging the bad and good. Hardly a stupid thing? Which was very much needed before humans learned about sanitation.

Which is my point. Scientists like to use what they don't fully understand to mock religious people.

Another example is scientists didn't know what inactive DNA was for, they called it "junk." Why would someone create junk? Umm why do humans archive old unused sections of documents, like when an amendment makes an old part void. Scientists love to do that sort of shit, then pretend it never happened.
 
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