Gonna purchase soil today. any from canada wanna share theyre gems?
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smoke and coke
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oh the cups are to soak the seed? doesnt matter how much water as long as it covers the seed and doesnt evaporated in 8 -12 hours.
i used this plastic that had candy in each seperate indent. it has 12 indents and only holds about a tablespoon of water. i put a couple seeds in each one to keep the strains seperate and placed a 2nd matching plastic piece on top so the water doesnt evaporate.
i used this plastic that had candy in each seperate indent. it has 12 indents and only holds about a tablespoon of water. i put a couple seeds in each one to keep the strains seperate and placed a 2nd matching plastic piece on top so the water doesnt evaporate.
smoke and coke
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the soak in water isnt really needed. you can put them straight into damp paper towels. i use a small rectangluar tupperware, line the bottom with a few layers of paper towel. wet it enough so its wet but not dripping wet. place the seeds in and cover with more damp paper towels. place some plastic wrap on top with a small corner lifted up for air to get in. put into the boiler room and check every 8-12 hours. be patient.
once they crack, put them in soil about 1/8th inch deep, maybe a little deeper and cover with loose soil. you can place a piece of plastic wrap on top of the container and remove the wrap as soon as the seed pops through and get the lights on it.
once they crack, put them in soil about 1/8th inch deep, maybe a little deeper and cover with loose soil. you can place a piece of plastic wrap on top of the container and remove the wrap as soon as the seed pops through and get the lights on it.
matthebrute
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ok i should rephrase that, organic is not "easier" it is actually more work than chemical nutes. you have to brew teas and make sure you good microbiology in your soil to break down "organic" matter into usable nutrients for the plant.
it is HARDER to over feed your plants using organic methods opposed to chemical methods.
Tea is easy to make, all you need is airpump w/ airstone some earthworm castings , molasses and optional liquid kelp which people seem to like to put into thier tea's. there is alot of good threads in the organic section on brewing tea and you can use all kinds of different SHIT(literally) to brew.
i had done the chemical method for my past 2 grows, nothing but problems FOR ME, everyone is different and some people prefer chem over organic. i switched to organic style and i havent had a single issue this grow.
if your doing indoor and i assume its cold out where you live you may want to invest in a nice 45gallon tote to store and mix your soil in.
if you havent made it to my thread i use
Pro-mix soiless potting mix x 1 bag
Fox Farm Ocean Forest potting soil x1 bag (wanted to use happy frog but they didnt have any, both are organic tho)
1 bag organic perilite
1/2 a bag of earthworm castings
1/2 a bag happy frog organic fertilizer 3-4-3
mixed em all together in my tote and have had my soil all ready to roll for transplanting and everything else. people say you can use bone meal, feather meal and all sorts of other organic ammendments to the soil which if you have the money i would recomend as well. i would have ammended more but my funds were tight.
after you get the soil mixed up start brewing a gallon of tea (for around 5 seedlings in solo cups if you have more then maybe 2 gallon would be ideal) after the teah has brewed up nicely get your solo cups filled with soil and water them thouroghly (so you have runoff) this will jumpstart the microbial population in the soil and give your medium some nutes for the seedlings but not too much nutrients to harm them. after this is done plan on making a batch of tea when you transplant into bigger containers probally 1.5-2 weeks after sprouting.
for chemical fertilizers you can still go with the same mix as posted above but you will buy bottled nutrients and start feeding probally 2-3 weeks after sprouting.
for chemical ferts they all have a value on the called the N-P-K value usually looks like 1-0-0 or 0-1-0 sooemthing to that effect. the N (first number in the sequnce) stands for Nitrogen, this is what your plants want during vegg (mostly, they also use the other nutrients just not as much)
the other 2 nubers in sequence are for potasium and phosphorus, one helps root development and the other promost blooming/budding. heres a decent link to look at
http://www.cleanairgardening.com/npkexplanation.html
so you can choose to have a vegatative formula which would look like 3-1-1 something like that and a bloom formula which would look like 1-4-3 or you can just be simple and go with a all around formula 3-3-3 that will work for the entire grow. im not a really too educated in chem ferts so this is far as im going to go, alot of people like to have 2 different stages of fertilizers one for bloom and one for beg but there is no reason a all around fert wont work for the whole grow.
it is HARDER to over feed your plants using organic methods opposed to chemical methods.
Tea is easy to make, all you need is airpump w/ airstone some earthworm castings , molasses and optional liquid kelp which people seem to like to put into thier tea's. there is alot of good threads in the organic section on brewing tea and you can use all kinds of different SHIT(literally) to brew.
i had done the chemical method for my past 2 grows, nothing but problems FOR ME, everyone is different and some people prefer chem over organic. i switched to organic style and i havent had a single issue this grow.
if your doing indoor and i assume its cold out where you live you may want to invest in a nice 45gallon tote to store and mix your soil in.
if you havent made it to my thread i use
Pro-mix soiless potting mix x 1 bag
Fox Farm Ocean Forest potting soil x1 bag (wanted to use happy frog but they didnt have any, both are organic tho)
1 bag organic perilite
1/2 a bag of earthworm castings
1/2 a bag happy frog organic fertilizer 3-4-3
mixed em all together in my tote and have had my soil all ready to roll for transplanting and everything else. people say you can use bone meal, feather meal and all sorts of other organic ammendments to the soil which if you have the money i would recomend as well. i would have ammended more but my funds were tight.
after you get the soil mixed up start brewing a gallon of tea (for around 5 seedlings in solo cups if you have more then maybe 2 gallon would be ideal) after the teah has brewed up nicely get your solo cups filled with soil and water them thouroghly (so you have runoff) this will jumpstart the microbial population in the soil and give your medium some nutes for the seedlings but not too much nutrients to harm them. after this is done plan on making a batch of tea when you transplant into bigger containers probally 1.5-2 weeks after sprouting.
for chemical fertilizers you can still go with the same mix as posted above but you will buy bottled nutrients and start feeding probally 2-3 weeks after sprouting.
for chemical ferts they all have a value on the called the N-P-K value usually looks like 1-0-0 or 0-1-0 sooemthing to that effect. the N (first number in the sequnce) stands for Nitrogen, this is what your plants want during vegg (mostly, they also use the other nutrients just not as much)
the other 2 nubers in sequence are for potasium and phosphorus, one helps root development and the other promost blooming/budding. heres a decent link to look at
http://www.cleanairgardening.com/npkexplanation.html
so you can choose to have a vegatative formula which would look like 3-1-1 something like that and a bloom formula which would look like 1-4-3 or you can just be simple and go with a all around formula 3-3-3 that will work for the entire grow. im not a really too educated in chem ferts so this is far as im going to go, alot of people like to have 2 different stages of fertilizers one for bloom and one for beg but there is no reason a all around fert wont work for the whole grow.
matthebrute
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dam sorry for the essay lol. and i agree with smoke, soaking them i think is more of a glamour than anything, a wet seed is a wet seed, if you think about it that seed is going to recieve nothing more benificial from soaking it overnight then it would from being in a wet paper towel, i always saturate the paper towel and then usually by the next day by order of evaporation it is moist. if the seed hasnt cracked yet i re wet if it has i leave it be (no need to drown it, once the tap root starts the need for completly soaked is gone and moist is acceptable but dont let it dry out completly.
paper towel, 2 plates and a warm location and you will have great sucess germinating seeds. the warm location is the key ingredient, as it helps the seed metabolize faster and get things rolling, time is vital for a seed trying to sprout as they only come with limited amount of stored energy, they need to get out of that shell and start photosynthisizing asap
paper towel, 2 plates and a warm location and you will have great sucess germinating seeds. the warm location is the key ingredient, as it helps the seed metabolize faster and get things rolling, time is vital for a seed trying to sprout as they only come with limited amount of stored energy, they need to get out of that shell and start photosynthisizing asap
Geezy101
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brute that was great. dont say sorry.. i will most likely be reading that a number of times in order to fully understand but thats ok! thats a great layout and it will help me a lot! thanks buddy!
i just boiled brita filterd water. wasg gonna soak them in a sealed mason jar and see if they drop.. but after reading that ill just use that boiled water and soak paper towels with it then put them in the furnace room (clearly waiting for the boiled water to cool down). then go and buy soil.. im sure the guy at high times will be good in helping choose which soil in nutes to buy once i explain my senario. again thanks alot buddy!
i just boiled brita filterd water. wasg gonna soak them in a sealed mason jar and see if they drop.. but after reading that ill just use that boiled water and soak paper towels with it then put them in the furnace room (clearly waiting for the boiled water to cool down). then go and buy soil.. im sure the guy at high times will be good in helping choose which soil in nutes to buy once i explain my senario. again thanks alot buddy!
matthebrute
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dont forget to get a journal up so the good folks here at RIU can help you along throughout your grow 
2supra4u
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just go to canadian tire and get a pro mix
soil less has nothing of value to plants needs its empty void of really anything of benefit.
thats why they are good because you plant gets only what you put into it, its considered hydroponic gardening
edit - my bad didnt see there was 3 pages already haha
soil less has nothing of value to plants needs its empty void of really anything of benefit.
thats why they are good because you plant gets only what you put into it, its considered hydroponic gardening
edit - my bad didnt see there was 3 pages already haha
Geezy101
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sup boys.. thanks ur input. much appreciated.
this is what i picked up at high times today.
Cocogro soil : dude said its the best stuff out and its gonna take over the market. http://www.cocogro.com/benefits.html
FloroNova Bloom 4-8-7 : said i can use during veg. again he highly reccomended it
KoolBloom: Rpinening Formula 2-45-28 - use 3 weeks into flowering with the Bloom stuff. again he said this stuff is legit
and some PH Down
2 GL Pots.
He said thats all i need.
* also the cocogro comes as a brick. u have to put it into a bin or something big enough to soak it with about 5gs of water. just enough to submerge. and the clutch ingrediant is the Bloom 4-8-7 half a feeding/5G of water which is 1 cap fool to charge the soil. works great he said.
this is what i picked up at high times today.
Cocogro soil : dude said its the best stuff out and its gonna take over the market. http://www.cocogro.com/benefits.html
FloroNova Bloom 4-8-7 : said i can use during veg. again he highly reccomended it
KoolBloom: Rpinening Formula 2-45-28 - use 3 weeks into flowering with the Bloom stuff. again he said this stuff is legit
and some PH Down
2 GL Pots.
He said thats all i need.
* also the cocogro comes as a brick. u have to put it into a bin or something big enough to soak it with about 5gs of water. just enough to submerge. and the clutch ingrediant is the Bloom 4-8-7 half a feeding/5G of water which is 1 cap fool to charge the soil. works great he said.
Geezy101
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also he said cocogro can be used to clone, and its so good that he and others dont even use domes when they clone with it. its that good. he said hes also stuck just a branch in it and it was good to go... i will def start a Journal and let everyone know how this stuff is!
Cheers
Cheers
smoke and coke
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i hope its as good as salesman says it is. im sure you can get a clone to root without a dome if you have a humid enough place or alot of misting of the leaves. idk i do alright in cloning but i have to use a dome.
it looks like some good stuff.
it looks like some good stuff.
smoke and coke
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i am in the states but i will buy a canadian growing mix anydayDamn, Great to see some canadians in here
I am about to go shopping for my supplies today as wellLooks like I might go with the PRO-MIX Soiless or the PRO-MIX Organic soil. With FloraNova Bloom and Grow
matthebrute
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im pretty sure that coco shit is like growing in hydroponics so make sure you have a PPM and PH meters that are reliable, at the very least a good solid PH meter as its a extremely important part of growing hydro.
be carefull of salesmen man they will sell ice to a eskimo.
be carefull of salesmen man they will sell ice to a eskimo.
OGEvilgenius
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Sea Soil is great Canadian soil. Available mostly on the west coast though. Tends to sell out extremely fast. Hard to find sometimes. But it's really good stuff.
matthebrute
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the pro mix i use is from canada.
Geezy101
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well hes a grower as well. but yea i use to be in sales i know. lol. there was all kinds of soil. i told em i was first timer, wanted organic. he said this would be the best, and the most simple when it comes to PH. holds moisture the best. hes had great success with it, started reccomending it. and hes got nothing but great reviews from it. i mean if its junk then he just lost a custy. im sure he knows that. u stay in business cause u sell good products. hes just tryn to get the best product out there so peeps are happy. thats the way i look at it.
