Gop Debate #17

beardo

Well-Known Member
new thought.

i don't want to see santorum smeared and buried in a general. ditto gingrich, despite his asshole past and excessive baggage.

i DO want to see romney get his sorry ass smeared seven ways to sunday.

i am evil though.

:fire:
Did you see the smug look on that fuckers face when Dr Paul was saying how he would be embarrased to disclose how much he makes compaired to the other candidates on the tax question?
 

UncleBuck

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...the...crowd...booed the Golden Rule...
they cheered a record number of death penalties by a certain governor.

they cheered at the thought of an uninsured person dying.

they booed at the notion of a gay soldier serving their country.

they booed at the golden rule.

2012 will be a very difficult year for republicans in my prediction. there was a wave in 2010, it clearly receded in 2011, and a new wave is coming in 2012. smart money is on a bluer wave.
 

deprave

New Member
Did you see the smug look on that fuckers face when Dr Paul was saying how he would be embarrased to disclose how much he makes compaired to the other candidates on the tax question?
Yea no shit..The fact that Ron Paul is the only candidate literally in the 99% (look it up) speaks volumes. Ron Paul makes under 200 grand a year and has a modest life because he doesn't play the system, Dr Paul only has one house and its vallued under 200k....Now UncleBuck wants to come on here and use his best smear as "Ronald the millionaire" but the fact is Ron Paul's income is nothing compared to the other candidates who for the most part are childrens of billionaires and additionaly have sold out the American People in their own interest time and time again. I like to say that Ron Paul has the most integrity but the reality is that he is the only one with ANY INTEGRITY whatsoever. Ron Paul is the only one that is not corrupt, this is undeniable, and that is huge.

The gravity of this can not be emphasized enough. The other candidates are corrupt criminals and they should be in Jail NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!

RON PAUL IS THE ONLY ONE WHO IS NOT CORRUPT!
 

WillyBagseed

Active Member
Don't care about SOPA

because it won't effect me. the protests effected me more.

"First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out;
Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out;
Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out.
And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me."
Martin Niemoller, 1892-1984


Shame on you UB.
 

WillyBagseed

Active Member
SOPA

You can be for it , thinking it will help vs piracy or you can be against it , either because you are a pirate or you don't want the biggest form of communication improperly censored.

But, if you use the *interwebs at all, do not think it will not effect you one way or another.

It will effect most computer users because the majority of them know how to turn it on and clickety click, then call IT when that doesn't work anymore. Average home users will be fucked if it goes thru.

*Favorite Bush Jr word. (at least he gets credit for it and I'm too lazy to go fact check this morning.)
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
the house is valued at $280k, you liar.



ronald the millionaire is a millionaire many times over.
UB, your stupidity and envy are showing again. Show me a doctor in the US at the end of their career that isn't a "millionaire".

Obama is a millionaire. Obama's wife worked as a hospital administrator and received a 100% salary increase after her husband became a US senator, and it still wasn't enough to make her proud to be an American, apparently she is impatiently waiting to be anointed Queen.
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
i won't respond to your question, because it is outside of the realm of reality upon which elections are decided.

general elections have very few debates, and MANY news cycles. the debates matter, but winning each news cycle is what matters now. toomey was very effective in implementing this strategy in 2010 and won over a late-surging sestak. obama mastered this in 2008. the debates were judged to be about even, but obama won many more news cycles. this is why your question is a distraction, not a sincere inquiry.

however, if i were to answer your question hypothetically, i would answer like this: in a debate, romney fails hard. he appears to be automaton. gingrich would be the best in a debate, but remember that he can only call obama a "saul alinsky radical" or "food stamp president" in a primary, not a general. in a general, that shit would be eaten alive by obama's machine. the fact that he does not bother with gingrich shows how little of a threat he is. i am laughing as i watch republicans fall for him...ALL OVER AGAIN! santorum draws a distinction, and is a real threat upon examination. he appeals to blue collars and seems to have mastered an "aw schucks" look lately. if i were a hypothetical republican looking for someone to defeat obama, santorum would appeal to me highly.

so, in a debate: gingrich/santorum, romney leagues behind.

to me, "mano a mano" is the news cycle of the equation. romney wins there, but has major setbacks such as a history of really odd gaffes. gingrich is a close second, he is sharp but he plays checkers, not chess. santorum is the slow but steady horse that would lose with some class.

basically, you guys need santorum's blue collar appeal, newt's sharpness, and romney's rich guy douche bag appeal. but you only get to choose one of them.

sucks to be a republican if you are one.
You are way over thinking my question. I tend to agree with most of your points, though. I disagree with you on Romney vs Obama, I think Romney would win that one; I guess we will see.

In a debate, Ron Paul would probably do poorly against Obama, at least in the media perception of "debate performance". Obama is smooth and he has that preacher-like style of short sound bite parsed sentences. Ron Paul meanders when he speaks, his voice is not pleasing to the ear, but Ron Paul's strength is his historical substance; he can't lose on his stance of adherence to the constitution because he is quite fundamentally right. There are a great many people in this country who see the constitution as "the enemy", though.

I think Obama will be shown the door in 2012, and that probably means Romney will be anointed. That displeases me because it means just more of the same. My only hope is that Ron Paul has awakened enough principled Americans to force this bag of statists (Obama and Romney at the top of that list of detestable statists) to at least move a little in the direction of a more peaceful, less meddlesome government.
 
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