Governor Abbott's Tent City

Drop That Sound

Drop That Sound

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cannabineer

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hanimmal said:
It sucks, we really need should be doing better. We really stagnated with this after building up the suburbs.
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A principal watershed event was Reagan defunding mental healthcare facilities first as Governor and then nationally.

Oddly, around 1980 private prisons entered a growth phase. Some really fine people.

time.com

America's Shocking History of Private Prisons

Shane Bauer investigates the history of profit and violence in private prisons.
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PJ Diaz

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Drop That Sound said:
Park a ghetto on the outside looking tiny house down at the public beach, where all the other "homeless" people in RV's are staying for free. Right next to the hill, where people pay 2-5k per month for ocean front view.

Don't do "blues" though, and save up 50k-200 in 2 years. Put a down payment on a new place, out in the country where there's no fluoride and puberty blockers in the water..
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$2k to $5k a month? LOL. The only ocean front for close to $2k you're gonna get is a room with a microwave:

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Spend a few bucks more, and you can get a small 2-bedroom, that's connected to a studio which is rented out separately:

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PJ Diaz

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cannabineer said:
A principal watershed event was Reagan defunding mental healthcare facilities first as Governor and then nationally.

Oddly, around 1980 private prisons entered a growth phase. Some really fine people.

time.com

America's Shocking History of Private Prisons

Shane Bauer investigates the history of profit and violence in private prisons.
time.com time.com
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Privatizing prisons should be illegal.
 
xtsho

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cannabineer said:
A principal watershed event was Reagan defunding mental healthcare facilities first as Governor and then nationally.

Oddly, around 1980 private prisons entered a growth phase. Some really fine people.

time.com

America's Shocking History of Private Prisons

Shane Bauer investigates the history of profit and violence in private prisons.
time.com time.com
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No mental health system that exists today could do anything to stop the drug induced mental health issues we are experiencing today. There is no effective treatment for todays drugs. They're to potent. They don't just cause the user to become addicted. They cause permanent harm to the brain.
 
PJ Diaz

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xtsho said:
No mental health system that exists today could do anything to stop the drug induced mental health issues we are experiencing today. There is no effective treatment for todays drugs. They're to potent. They don't just cause the user to become addicted. They cause permanent harm to the brain.
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They really do cause normal people to become monsters.
 
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schuylaar said:

News | California Poison Control System

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With fentanyl being distributed in what looks like Sweetarts Candy..wonder how many kids will end up in their bag? It only takes one.

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Make sure you check your kids candy bag this year- a reason why the cartels are doing this can you tell?.our kids..they want to kill our kids by accidentally having your toddler ingest. I throw out any Sweetarts or Skittles. I wouldn't even buy any in case someone pulls a 1982 Tylenol poisoning. Would you believe they still have never found the perp with seven deaths?
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What's the benefit of killing your potential future customers?
 
cannabineer

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xtsho said:
No mental health system that exists today could do anything to stop the drug induced mental health issues we are experiencing today. There is no effective treatment for todays drugs. They're to potent. They don't just cause the user to become addicted. They cause permanent harm to the brain.
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That is a minority among the long-term mentally ill. Many congenital (including delayed presentation as happens with bipolar) and traumatic sufferers.

The best thing we can do is stop demonizing drug users as “moral failures” and provide clean cheap Federal supply from local dispensaries, so that some of the worse improvisations such as fentanyl and nutmeg are simply not sought.
 
Fogdog

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xtsho said:
No mental health system that exists today could do anything to stop the drug induced mental health issues we are experiencing today. There is no effective treatment for todays drugs. They're to potent. They don't just cause the user to become addicted. They cause permanent harm to the brain.
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I didn't know you were a mental health professional. Please do educate us about how drugs are the reason for a substantial number of mentally ill in the US. I'm interested in reading up on this and would appreciate recommendations to help inform us.
 
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Nope_49595933949 said:
What's the benefit of killing your potential future customers?
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Ask the Sacklers..why does everyone suck Sackler dick? <rhetorical>

The medical supplies industry et al are whores who got rich off of others' misery..anything other than a named wing and noone's interested..I'm looking at YOU Strycker Foundation:finger:they kick and scream at the mess that they've caused. Having to shame them for a shelter in The Fort. Pigs.
 
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Drop That Sound

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Fortunately, I've seen people able to pull back from being complete off the wall lunatics from those drugs lately. I'm especially sure there was tranq dope involved too, that mixes with the aluminum foil fumes when they smoke it. It's as if some were demonically possessed, by sometimes up to 10 different entities arguing and screaming at each other in the street. I've seen them go from that a year ago to being clean again.

It's amazing what can happen when they quit using, even with swiss cheese for brains. Hopefully they keep their vibes high and stay away from it, but I don't see how that is possible when there are so many programs now that place you right back around the riff raff. Most of the social program housing buildings are crawling with addicts.. even the recovery houses have the most scandalous shit going on behind the scenes..

I don't see how it works without more isolation away from other people than that (for myself anyway), other than some people really want to change, and they do. It's rare though it seems.
 
Fogdog

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Correlation isn't the same as causation. I'm skeptical that the homeless mentally ill are mostly because of drugs. Who is being lazy? The person who asks questions and looks for answers? Or is it the person who claims something is obvious without demonstrating they have given it much thought? You haven't given it much thought have you?

It says it right there in the webMD article you posted. "Drug addiction may lead to mental illness or vice versa." "Substance use disorders (SUDs) and mental illness often occur simultaneously. "

What you write off as simple and obvious doesn't seem so obvious according to WebMD.

Try being less simple.
 
cannabineer

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Fogdog said:
Climb down old man.

Correlation isn't the same as causation. I'm skeptical that the homeless mentally ill are mostly because of drugs. Who is being lazy? The person who asks questions and looks for answers? Or is it the person who claims something is obvious without demonstrating they have given it much thought? You haven't given it much thought have you?

It says it right there in the webMD article you posted. "Drug addiction may lead to mental illness or vice versa." "Substance use disorders (SUDs) and mental illness often occur simultaneously. "

What you write off as simple and obvious doesn't seem so obvious according to WebMD.

Try being less simple.
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Admitted anecdote, but of the people I knew who used drugs, I’d say more than half were self-medicating an underlying mental illness. There was one guy who used mass quantities of really pure meth (oral route; his teeth didn’t suffer) and evened it with mass quantities of alcohol and the odd other CNS depressant. He was in it for the ride, but the others, by and large, reached for the bottle or pills to take some of the teeth out of (often diagnosed) mental illness. I don’t think I know anybody who got crazied by drugs. Not even that guy.
 
xtsho

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It's a waste of time arguing that many of those homeless on the streets are mentally ill due to their excessive drug use. It's widely accepted among the medical and scientific community.

Many of the homeless living on the streets are completely whacked out. It's directly due to their abuse of drugs. Meth, ketamine, fentanyl, and now xylazine. It's turning people into crazed zombies. People that have had normal lives for decades without any signs of mental illness that have become addicted to the nasty drugs on the street are now raving lunatics resembling people with schizophrenia and other mental disorders.

It's obvious that some don't see this crap day after day so I understand that they are clueless to what's actually going on in many cities. But to argue that it isn't a cause is ridiculous. I've seen normal people literally go crazy from some of the stuff people use to get high.

"Addictive drug use or prescribed medicine abuse can cause psychosis. Some representative symptoms frequently elicited by patients with psychosis are hallucination, anhedonia, and disrupted executive functions. These psychoses are categorized into three classifications of symptoms: positive, negative, and cognitive. The symptoms of DIP are not different from the symptoms of schizophrenia, and it is difficult to distinguish between them. Due to this ambiguity of distinction between the DIP and schizophrenia, the DIP animal model has been frequently used as the schizophrenia animal model. However, although the symptoms may be the same, its causes are clearly different in that DIP is acquired and schizophrenia is heritable. Therefore, in this review, we cover several DIP models such as of amphetamine, PCP/ketamine, scopolamine, and LSD, and then we also address three schizophrenia models through a genetic approach with a new perspective that distinguishes DIP from schizophrenia."


 
cannabineer

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xtsho said:
It's a waste of time arguing that many of those homeless on the streets are mentally ill due to their excessive drug use. It's widely accepted among the medical and scientific community.

Many of the homeless living on the streets are completely whacked out. It's directly due to their abuse of drugs. Meth, ketamine, fentanyl, and now xylazine. It's turning people into crazed zombies. People that have had normal lives for decades without any signs of mental illness that have become addicted to the nasty drugs on the street are now raving lunatics resembling people with schizophrenia and other mental disorders.

It's obvious that some don't see this crap day after day so I understand that they are clueless to what's actually going on in many cities. But to argue that it isn't a cause is ridiculous. I've seen normal people literally go crazy from some of the stuff people use to get high.

"Addictive drug use or prescribed medicine abuse can cause psychosis. Some representative symptoms frequently elicited by patients with psychosis are hallucination, anhedonia, and disrupted executive functions. These psychoses are categorized into three classifications of symptoms: positive, negative, and cognitive. The symptoms of DIP are not different from the symptoms of schizophrenia, and it is difficult to distinguish between them. Due to this ambiguity of distinction between the DIP and schizophrenia, the DIP animal model has been frequently used as the schizophrenia animal model. However, although the symptoms may be the same, its causes are clearly different in that DIP is acquired and schizophrenia is heritable. Therefore, in this review, we cover several DIP models such as of amphetamine, PCP/ketamine, scopolamine, and LSD, and then we also address three schizophrenia models through a genetic approach with a new perspective that distinguishes DIP from schizophrenia."


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I could find no studies implicating ketamine in the precipitation of chronic mental illness.
 
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